installing windows 98...after XP has been installed
Friday, April 23, 2004 by Lord Vimal | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
hi
now i have decided i want to have XP and Win98 on two drives C, D respectively. whatever i do, my XP is rejecting the installation. how do i proceed? i want 98 on drive D:. is it possible? thanks
-=:[ Vimal ]:=-
PS: i want 98 because i want better DOS support
now i have decided i want to have XP and Win98 on two drives C, D respectively. whatever i do, my XP is rejecting the installation. how do i proceed? i want 98 on drive D:. is it possible? thanks
-=:[ Vimal ]:=-
PS: i want 98 because i want better DOS support
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Lord Vimal
Reply #2 Friday, April 23, 2004 1:53 PM
Reply #2 Friday, April 23, 2004 1:53 PM
the main problem is: XP is already PRE-INSTALLED on C drive!
NightTrainthedark
Reply #3 Friday, April 23, 2004 1:57 PM
Reply #3 Friday, April 23, 2004 1:57 PM
Couldn''t you reformat C? Reinstall XP and 98. Just a thought but I am in way over my head here. 
Essencay
Reply #5 Friday, April 23, 2004 3:03 PM
Reply #5 Friday, April 23, 2004 3:03 PM
If you use PowerQuest Partition Magic http://www.powerquest.com/partitionmagic/
you can set it up without uninstalling XP. Costs $70 though
you can set it up without uninstalling XP. Costs $70 though
SelfExiled
Reply #6 Friday, April 23, 2004 4:30 PM
Reply #6 Friday, April 23, 2004 4:30 PM
Nah, Partition Magic/Boot Magic sucks for dual boot. I tried it. I use System Commander. It''s much easier to setup and it actually works. I have Win98 and WinXP on my system. My primary is split and neither OS knows the other exists, because you can hide the partitions. Then I split and hid partitions on my D drive too. So, its like having two complete OS. The one thing you have to remember with System Commander is that after you install the other Operating System, you have to reactivate System Commander. It will then provide its own graphical interface with icons for your different OS.
This is exactly how its works too. You set up one OS system and then install System Commander on it. Then, you reboot and System Commander takes over after the Bios loads. You can then tell it to add another OS. The graphical interface is very user friendly and it didn''t take me long to become a wizard with it. You can even password lock it to prevent changes or lock out the ability of others to get to Dos. Or you can Password lock certain Operating Systems completely.
I actually booted my Win98 for the last few days, after about five months, to play a little Black & White. Then, I figured out how to run Black & White on WinXP. Win98 is nice to have around, I guess. If you like to play Dos Games sometimes, or games that won''t run on WinXP. But, its only good for old games really. Nothing on Win98 looks as good as, or, is as fun as Object Desktop/Windowblinds and cursorXP on WinXP. So, my Win98 goes back to collecting cobwebs.
This is exactly how its works too. You set up one OS system and then install System Commander on it. Then, you reboot and System Commander takes over after the Bios loads. You can then tell it to add another OS. The graphical interface is very user friendly and it didn''t take me long to become a wizard with it. You can even password lock it to prevent changes or lock out the ability of others to get to Dos. Or you can Password lock certain Operating Systems completely.
I actually booted my Win98 for the last few days, after about five months, to play a little Black & White. Then, I figured out how to run Black & White on WinXP. Win98 is nice to have around, I guess. If you like to play Dos Games sometimes, or games that won''t run on WinXP. But, its only good for old games really. Nothing on Win98 looks as good as, or, is as fun as Object Desktop/Windowblinds and cursorXP on WinXP. So, my Win98 goes back to collecting cobwebs.
Essencay
Reply #7 Friday, April 23, 2004 4:37 PM
Reply #7 Friday, April 23, 2004 4:37 PM
Chas....used Partition Magic/Boot Magic to setup a dual boot on my wife''s computer and it actually works 
Didn''t suck either
Didn''t suck either
SelfExiled
Reply #8 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:31 PM
Reply #8 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:31 PM
kk. Well, if it worked for you. I had lots of trouble with it myself. No offense intended. And customer support didn''t have a clue.
Essencay
Reply #9 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:35 PM
Reply #9 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:35 PM
Customer Support...I am fortunate not to have had to use.....recently it was bought up by Symantec....so maybe that''ll get better. What''s System Commander cost? To me the $70 that Symantec is charging for Partition Magic is a bit steep.
SelfExiled
Reply #10 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:50 PM
Reply #10 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:50 PM
Yeah, I brought it many years ago to dual boot Win98 and Win95. This is when I called Customer Support. It was just a waste of money. I tried the new version recently to Dual Boot Win98 and WinXP. At the time, I don''t think it could dual boot WinXP. So, I tried System Commander. I''ve seen it in the computer stores. Beyond that, I cannot comment. 
Essencay
Reply #11 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:50 PM
Reply #11 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:50 PM
For the few games I still play on my PC that won''t run on XP, I use VirtualPC.
SelfExiled
Reply #12 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:58 PM
Reply #12 Friday, April 23, 2004 5:58 PM
Is that a program that you can install on WinXP? A sort of dos emulator? Got a link?
Oh yeah, I''m wondering too. How does System Commander use so many colors before the operating system boots, and our Boot Screen program is having so much trouble with multi-colors?
Oh yeah, I''m wondering too. How does System Commander use so many colors before the operating system boots, and our Boot Screen program is having so much trouble with multi-colors?
Essencay
Reply #13 Friday, April 23, 2004 6:11 PM
Reply #13 Friday, April 23, 2004 6:11 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/virtualpc/ Used to be a Connectix product but was bought out by Microsoft. There''s a PC version and a Mac version. It let''s you set up as many virtual pc''s either full-screen or windowed in XP. Once you create your PC, you can load any OS you want on it....MS-DOS, Win9x, OS/2, Linux. Nice thing about it is not having to reboot to use it Not so nice is the price....I think $130, but that''s $100 less than Connectix was charging. Microsoft has a 45-day full version to try out
I can imagine someone somewhere running virtual pc on their Mac and using windowblinds to skin it as a Mac
Not so nice is the price....I think $130, but that''s $100 less than Connectix was charging. Microsoft has a 45-day full version to try out I can imagine someone somewhere running virtual pc on their Mac and using windowblinds to skin it as a Mac
SelfExiled
Reply #14 Friday, April 23, 2004 6:24 PM
Reply #14 Friday, April 23, 2004 6:24 PM
Thanks for the link.
Yep, I can imagine it too. You must have windows software because Mac software sucks. Ooops, what did I just say? I''m not trying to start a Mac vs. PC flame war. I was only kidding. No, No, really I was!!!
I couldn''t care less about mac lovers. Oh no, why did I say that? NEVERMIND!!
| I can imagine someone somewhere running virtual pc on their Mac and using windowblinds to skin it as a Mac |
Yep, I can imagine it too. You must have windows software because Mac software sucks. Ooops, what did I just say? I''m not trying to start a Mac vs. PC flame war. I was only kidding. No, No, really I was!!!
I couldn''t care less about mac lovers. Oh no, why did I say that? NEVERMIND!!
CygnusXII
Reply #15 Friday, April 23, 2004 10:08 PM
Reply #15 Friday, April 23, 2004 10:08 PM
You can try VMWare Workstation for PC Emulation also.
https://www.vmware.com/
How Does VMware Workstation Work?
VMware Workstation works by enabling multiple operating systems and their applications to run concurrently on a single physical machine. These operating systems and applications are isolated in secure virtual machines that co-exist on a single piece of hardware. The VMware virtualization layer maps the physical hardware resources to the virtual machine''s resources, so each virtual machine has its own CPU, memory, disks, I/O devices, etc. Virtual machines are the full equivalent of a standard x86 machine.
Free Trial
http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/wkst_eval_login.jsp
https://www.vmware.com/
How Does VMware Workstation Work?
VMware Workstation works by enabling multiple operating systems and their applications to run concurrently on a single physical machine. These operating systems and applications are isolated in secure virtual machines that co-exist on a single piece of hardware. The VMware virtualization layer maps the physical hardware resources to the virtual machine''s resources, so each virtual machine has its own CPU, memory, disks, I/O devices, etc. Virtual machines are the full equivalent of a standard x86 machine.
Free Trial
http://www.vmware.com/vmwarestore/newstore/wkst_eval_login.jsp
shajib2kbd
Reply #16 Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:03 PM
Reply #16 Tuesday, April 27, 2004 10:03 PM
i dont understand why is everyone talking abt 3rd party softwares. @vimal, why think of spending money while xp has everything that u need? start your pc with a 98 boot disk & install 98 on D. when u r done, u'll see your xp/dual boot is gone. this is 'cos 98 has overwritten the master boot record. dont panic, ur xp is safe in C. now boot ur pc with an xp boot disk & when that 1st blue screen comes, press R to enter recovery console. it'll ask which os u wanna log in, for u its 'C:\windows'. then it'll ask for an acount name & pass from ur xp acounts. log in as admin, type 'bootcfg /scan'. it'll scan all ur current windows installations. u'll find 2 windows, i guess, 1 is D windows & 1 is C windows. then type 'bootcfg/ rebuild'. now it'll say sthing like
[1]c:\windows
add to boot(y/n)? y
enter load identifier(some name for this os) XP(in ur case)
enter load option(is it default or not) /fastdetect(if u want xp to be ed automatically, else just press enter)
[2]d:\windows
enter............... y
enter............... 98
enter............... /fastdetect(if u want 98 to be default)
restart ur pc & voila! u got the dual boot os choose screen, & none of ur os has been harmed.
thats all! see, no need to buy expensive 3rd party softwares.
hope it works for u.
good luck
[1]c:\windows
add to boot(y/n)? y
enter load identifier(some name for this os) XP(in ur case)
enter load option(is it default or not) /fastdetect(if u want xp to be ed automatically, else just press enter)
[2]d:\windows
enter............... y
enter............... 98
enter............... /fastdetect(if u want 98 to be default)
restart ur pc & voila! u got the dual boot os choose screen, & none of ur os has been harmed.
thats all! see, no need to buy expensive 3rd party softwares.
hope it works for u.
good luck
Chris TH
Reply #17 Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:10 PM
I'd say it's precisely because it runs before the OS boots - it uses it's own 'driver' to talk to the VGA card and determine the capabilities of it etc and displays accordingly.
Bootskin is at the mercy of the OS which appears to load some 'minimal' VGA driver with the limitations we all know.
Reply #17 Tuesday, April 27, 2004 11:10 PM
| Oh yeah, I''m wondering too. How does System Commander use so many colors before the operating system boots, and our Boot Screen program is having so much trouble with multi-colors? |
I'd say it's precisely because it runs before the OS boots - it uses it's own 'driver' to talk to the VGA card and determine the capabilities of it etc and displays accordingly.
Bootskin is at the mercy of the OS which appears to load some 'minimal' VGA driver with the limitations we all know.
SelfExiled
Reply #18 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:41 AM
Reply #18 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 2:41 AM
Chris, isn't this the idea behind getting full color support on the Bootskin Program? Getting the OS to use a different VGA driver than the one it is currently using?
XX
Reply #19 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:13 AM
It's pretty easy. For fun, I have been installing 6 Linux on my laptop so far. Oh yeah XP is still there too. How? Microsoft Virtual PC.
Reply #19 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 4:13 AM
| i dont understand why is everyone talking abt 3rd party softwares. @vimal, why think of spending money while xp has everything that u need? |
It's pretty easy. For fun, I have been installing 6 Linux on my laptop so far. Oh yeah XP is still there too. How? Microsoft Virtual PC.
Chris TH
Reply #20 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:37 AM
If I was a Stardock developer (hint, hint ) that's something I'd look at 
Reply #20 Wednesday, April 28, 2004 5:37 AM
| Chris, isn't this the idea behind getting full color support on the Bootskin Program? Getting the OS to use a different VGA driver than the one it is currently using? |
If I was a Stardock developer (hint, hint
) that's something I'd look at 
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Reply #1 Friday, April 23, 2004 1:42 PM