What makes SP2 such a special update?
Sunday, April 11, 2004 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Anyone opinion on that? Microsoft puts their coders focus on SP2 and out of Longhorn.
Is SP2 that special?
Is SP2 that special?
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Orion
Reply #22 Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:54 PM
Reply #22 Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:54 PM
WHOA!!!! I did NOT say it worked with WindowBlinds. (But I will try and check).
Don't bother with the "Beta". There have been VERY significant changes between the beta and the release canidate. Also, the only reason I have it installed on work test systems is to research deployment across my enterprise and verify application compatibility. If you're an end user, wait until the final release version. I do not run it on any of my personal machines...yet
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Don't bother with the "Beta". There have been VERY significant changes between the beta and the release canidate. Also, the only reason I have it installed on work test systems is to research deployment across my enterprise and verify application compatibility. If you're an end user, wait until the final release version. I do not run it on any of my personal machines...yet
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Orion
Reply #23 Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:12 PM
Reply #23 Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:12 PM
OK, out of curiosity, I installed XP SP2 RC1 on my ThinkPad T41.
1.6Ghz P4M.
512MB.
WinXP Pro Corporate with SP1 and all pre-SP2 patches (even the three from yesterday).
WindowBlinds 4.29h[rc].002
ObjectBar 1.65
ObjectDock 1.00.008
IconPackager 2.50e.086
My “Cold Steel” skin.
With respect to the products listed above, I see absolutely no difference whatsoever between this SP2 system and any other pre-SP2 systems with the same skinning products. All elements appear to be skinning properly. No bugs, no improper drawing, etc. It looks fine to me.
Do not blame me or Stardock if you install this service pack and something breaks. I have already stated that everyone should wait until the final release.
1.6Ghz P4M.
512MB.
WinXP Pro Corporate with SP1 and all pre-SP2 patches (even the three from yesterday).
WindowBlinds 4.29h[rc].002
ObjectBar 1.65
ObjectDock 1.00.008
IconPackager 2.50e.086
My “Cold Steel” skin.
With respect to the products listed above, I see absolutely no difference whatsoever between this SP2 system and any other pre-SP2 systems with the same skinning products. All elements appear to be skinning properly. No bugs, no improper drawing, etc. It looks fine to me.
Do not blame me or Stardock if you install this service pack and something breaks. I have already stated that everyone should wait until the final release.
Sput
Reply #24 Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:15 PM
I didn't mean to imply that you'd said it worked with WB...I was saying that worry that it might not was what had put me off trying it.
Like you, I work in an IT support environment, and at some point once it's released we'll have to deploy this to approx 6,000 destops so I ought to be learning it's foibles in advance...at the moment though, I'll leave that to the team who'll be planning that
BTW, I've just been doing a quick hunt to see if I could find any of the hacker sites detailing exploits for SP2 already, and I'm glad to say I didn't find any....yet
Given past form, I wouldn't be surprised if someone finds something that no one has thought of fairly soon after SP2 is released though - I'm sure there are lots of people itching for the kudos of being the one to crack it as soon as it's released.
Anyhow, in searching I found this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jepling/archive/2004/01/16/59550.aspx
...a blog from one of the people working on SP2, which gives MS a more personal face. I also think that the issues this guy has worked on (mitigating against social engineering 'splots for example) are some of the most promising developments as they convince me that MS is beginning to really understand what security really needs.
Reply #24 Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:15 PM
| WHOA!!!! I did NOT say it worked with WindowBlinds. (But I will try and check).Don't bother with the "Beta". There have been VERY significant changes between the beta and the release canidate. Also, the only reason I have it installed on work test systems is to research deployment across my enterprise and verify application compatibility. If you're an end user, wait until the final release version. I do not run it on any of my personal machines...yet |
I didn't mean to imply that you'd said it worked with WB...I was saying that worry that it might not was what had put me off trying it.Like you, I work in an IT support environment, and at some point once it's released we'll have to deploy this to approx 6,000 destops so I ought to be learning it's foibles in advance...at the moment though, I'll leave that to the team who'll be planning that
BTW, I've just been doing a quick hunt to see if I could find any of the hacker sites detailing exploits for SP2 already, and I'm glad to say I didn't find any....yet
Given past form, I wouldn't be surprised if someone finds something that no one has thought of fairly soon after SP2 is released though - I'm sure there are lots of people itching for the kudos of being the one to crack it as soon as it's released.Anyhow, in searching I found this:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jepling/archive/2004/01/16/59550.aspx
...a blog from one of the people working on SP2, which gives MS a more personal face. I also think that the issues this guy has worked on (mitigating against social engineering 'splots for example) are some of the most promising developments as they convince me that MS is beginning to really understand what security really needs.
Sput
Reply #25 Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:17 PM
That is even better news. I wonder why a number of people have reported not all icons being skinned in IE? Maybe the RC or the latest WB build has fixed it already.
I'll still hang back till I've finished this GUIO intended skin though to be on the "safe side" - if that's not a contradiction (as SP2 is all about making XP safer!)
Reply #25 Thursday, April 15, 2004 7:17 PM
| I see absolutely no difference whatsoever between this SP2 system and any other pre-SP2 systems with the same skinning products |
That is even better news. I wonder why a number of people have reported not all icons being skinned in IE? Maybe the RC or the latest WB build has fixed it already.
I'll still hang back till I've finished this GUIO intended skin though to be on the "safe side" - if that's not a contradiction (as SP2 is all about making XP safer!
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Reply #21 Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:14 PM