Myths & Facts about WindowBlinds

Thursday, March 25, 2004 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Myths & Facts about WindowBlinds

Because WindowBlinds has been out now for half a decade and it has changed so dramatically over the years, there are a lot of misconceptions about how WindowBlinds works.

MYTH: WindowBlinds is a memory hog.

FACT:  No. WindowBlinds not only uses very little memory but it actually uses LESS memory than the bundled themes do. That's because WindowBlinds visual styles are designed to use less memory since its skin format was designed during the days when users had fewer resources.

The Wbload.exe process in the Windows task list.

 

MYTH: WindowBlinds will slow down your computer.

FACT: To a certain extent, anything you load onto your machine will slow it down by some amount. The question is, will a given program slow down your computer noticeably. In WindowBlinds' case, it shouldn't slow down your computer. Thanks to hardware acceleration and using extra video RAM on most new cards, WindowBlinds should be noticeably faster than using the bundled themes in Windows XP.

MYTH: WindowBlinds isn't as compatible or will crash my programs

FACT: WindowBlinds, because it's a commercial product, has to provide additional value over the included themes in Windows XP. One of the ways it does this is by defaulting to skinning non-theme aware programs. Of course, some programs just don't like being skinned. Those apps can be added to the exclusion list. Most existing software is excluded by Microsoft's theme engine. But you can do the same thing with WindowBlinds if you are concerned about compatibility over consistency:

You can tell WindowBlinds to only skin theme aware programs and have identical compatibility to Windows XP's bundled themes.

 

MYTH: All the WindowBlinds visual styles are big and ugly.

FACT: There are thousands of WindowBlinds visual styles on the net. And it can also import in .msstyles files if you have SkinStudio installed. Because WindowBlinds is very flexible, skinners tend to make skins that they want to make with little limitation. So that creates more variety. But sites such as WinCustomize.com do have ways of filtering visual styles so you can find the ones you want.

For example, if you want to see the Admin picks of WindowBlinds visual styles, you can go here. That doesn't mean you'll like what they picked but they are skins that other people have liked.

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mizxecio
Reply #41 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:40 AM
at least 75% of the xp wb skins submitted in the last 18 months are over the top and to large (with the exception of msstlye ports ), skinners just show off as many of their skills as possible in one skin without considering how it looks. With visual styles on sites like deviantart.com in particular (although there are only about 800 of them), where at least 60% are all much more minimal and look great.
Hus
Reply #42 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:02 PM
at least 60% are all much more minimal and look great.


First, that's purely a personal opinion, if you look at the work of WB Skinner, some his skins are "over-the-top" and very popular. Secondly, the minimalism is mainly due to the fact that there isn't much flexability in .msstyles, you CAN'T do the kind of skins you see here, they're just not possible to make with the .msstyle format limitations.
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kona0197
Reply #43 Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:58 PM
He has a point. Less is better for me.
CerebroJD
Reply #44 Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:02 AM
Good points, Hus!
Jafo
Reply #45 Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:10 AM

Minimalism in styleXP is a 'necessity', not a 'feature'.

With Windowblinds the skinner has the option to be minimalistic or not, as he so chooses, hence its popularity...

kona0197
Reply #46 Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:29 AM
Well I meant to say I prefer small minimalistic WB skins.
Deano_Oz
Reply #47 Friday, June 25, 2004 12:40 AM
I agree with Jafo, I read and replied to a thread over at Neo, someone waiting for the skins from the GuiOlympics to be made available in msstyles format... he he he, they'll be waiting a LONG TIME....
Halluci
Reply #48 Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:53 AM
haha... lets see someone try to port antares to msstyles with all animations intact hahaha



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GuardianD
Reply #49 Wednesday, July 21, 2004 6:02 PM
I'd have to say that there is much validity in your statments, CygnusXII. I work as an A+ tech, and see many of these bogged down registries every single day. It's also very much an issue, these days anyhow, with tons of spy/adware programs on users systems, that they don't even realise are there. I mean, it couldn't possibly be those "tons of free cursor" programs, or "web(cough)shots" and such... right?
The simple fact is, the vast majority of home PC users simply do not know how to maintain their system for top performance. They don't understand the importance of maintaining a clean registry, sweeping their system for spyware/virii, or running cleanups on their temp files and defrag of the HDD. They see something that they think is a neat program, for "free", and blindly install it. (What? Free cursors? All I have to do is "click here"??... while CursorXP gives you any and all cursors you could want, or make, without the spyware...)
Also, many home PC users think that an install of Windows should last forever, without ever having to reinstall it. I've seen people bring in systems with Win98 first edition (we refuse to work on 95 machines these days), that have been installed since the day that they purchased it. As a general rule, a format and reinstall of Windows once a year is a good practice. No matter how good of a job you do cleaning up your registry, it's bound to get "wiggy" sooner or later. If Windows was an OS designed to be installed, and forgotten about... we'd never need to buy a new version of it.
Finally, the issue about memory, and it's availability these days. Most mass PC manufacturers are putting at least 512MB in a system these days... and that's DDR. We're talking a minimum of what USED to be the maximum, and at speeds at least double what it used to run at. Add to that the fact that the average user has 1GB or more (hardcore users, those that would be interested in running something like WB), and this is no longer even a valid topic. (Even with WB and Objectdock, NAV, and a few other programs running, I still have over 75% of my memory available... with 1GB installed.)
Granted, I just recently got into WB/Object Desktop, as I'm sick and tired of Windows being so boring... and I'm getting interested in creating my own skins... but, I can't see where this program could ever have been the "memory hog" that it's claimed to have been.



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Devo2004
Reply #50 Sunday, July 25, 2004 8:15 AM
Maxness what kind of image where you trying to make with 90 layers.

I am just in the stages of getting to grips with Photoshop CS and I dont think I have used more than 10 layers... Dont think I would like to manage more than that yet lol
DYSEQTA
Reply #51 Monday, July 26, 2004 3:17 PM
Maxness what kind of image where you trying to make with 90 layers.I am just in the stages of getting to grips with Photoshop CS and I dont think I have used more than 10 layers... Dont think I would like to manage more than that yet lol


My latest desktop theme in its development stage currently consists of a single photoshop document with 293 layers organised into 14 nested layer sets



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CerebroJD
Reply #52 Monday, July 26, 2004 5:31 PM
Owww....thats incredible....gotta be running some elite hardware for that kinda work.
Frogboy
Reply #53 Saturday, September 4, 2004 12:13 PM
How WindowBlinds works isn't a state secret and it's easily uninstalled. In fact, you can turn it off any time you want.

When you install WindowBlinds it typically goes into your c:\program files\stardock\object desktop\windowblinds directory.

It is set to run on start-up but you can turn it off when you choose. When wbload.exe is loaded, it simply tells Windows to let wblind.dll take care of your GUI element painting instead of uxtheme.dll. There's no dark magic involved. No messing around with your registry. And if you decide you don't want to use it, you can uninstall it just like any other program.



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Fuzzy Logic
Reply #54 Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:19 AM

Here's one for you. This is WB running my Cirrus skin. Go drool...

coastalcarolina
Reply #55 Monday, September 20, 2004 1:11 AM
Very good thread Frog.... I have recommended Stardock's products to alot of people since I just started using it again a week ago. I had tried it back in 97' or 98' but thought the programs were pretty buggy. Heck now I am running litteraly 30 apps between the taskbar and sys tray (not to mention the background services, etc.), have uninstalled a few apps, installed several apps, and havn't rebooted in 5 DAYS! and I am running DesktopX, CursorX, WindowsBlinds & more to come - I would like to see Windows ME do that! SP2 seems to make XP run smoother and more stable as well, at least for me. Besides if the people would actually think that with todays common 128mb and 256mbb graphics cards paired /w 1GIG or more of ram in most machines in use, I would accept a 5% decrease in performance just to have a good looking Windows (which obviously you don't have to sacrafice /w these products). Norton 2003 has a system slowdown of 10%. So to the people that think these WindowBlinds, DesktopX, etc. apps are resource hogs.... do you use Norton? cause your already behind the game by 10% not to mention all the people that don't scan for spyware (switch to Pc-Cillin 2004

I am a tweaker and I think Stardock's programs are stable, cool, and resource friendly. AWESOME PRODUCT STARDOCK & VERY FRUITFUL WEBSITE WINCUSTOMIZE! Kudos
wombatDK
Reply #56 Monday, September 20, 2004 8:30 PM
Can't agree more, coastalcarolina. I'm running quite a few different apps, some of which I am fairly sure are memory hogs, and it's just all fun and games. WindowBlinds, WindowFX with tons of transitions (often even switched off the "small windows only" toggle), DesktopX, SysMetrix, lots of other apps... everything nice and fast. If I play power-hungry games I simply turn off most of that - and voila, nice speedy system.

As a previous post said - occasional clean re-installs help too. Kinda sad though.
Koasati
Reply #57 Monday, September 20, 2004 9:34 PM

As a previous post said - occasional clean re-installs help too. Kinda sad though.

That's a fact with or without Stardock products.

coastalcarolina
Reply #58 Monday, September 20, 2004 11:53 PM
A regular format and clean install of the OS partition is a must. I do mine about 3 or 4 times a year, and I format 4 or 5 of my friends HD every year. Formatting and starting clean is a wonderful method for trying to track down a problem /w a program, driver, crashing, freezing, or anything. The only pain is that it is imperative that you look @ all the options and extras being installed for every piece of software because everything has to be customized for usefulness and speed. Which includes getting rid of things in your startup via startup group in all programs, running msconfig and getting rid of unneeded XP services in the backround.

When I format peoples' computers that have had it for a few weeks or months, they are flabbergasted @ the difference. And people that have had a computer for 3 or 4 years and have never formatted... whoa I feel for them.
Urgo
Reply #59 Friday, October 1, 2004 11:11 PM
Old thread but anyway

use wb msot of the time because i like to piff up the dekstop some.

with wb i feel in most cases/skins sluggish compared when not using it very few skins out there feels smoth when using them
regarding to response time.

That has always been the case with wb since the beginning of time regardless what computer you own:)

I suppose if you use xp only for games wb wont hurt you but when you use xp heavly imo it does feel worse with wb on then with it off not tiny diffrence but again imo big.

And having more then 1gb of ram right now feels overkill just to make wb work 100 24/7

haven tried out wb 4.4 yet but i dont hope to much



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DaSwed
Reply #60 Saturday, October 16, 2004 9:33 AM
like the post, and yea windows skin suxz...

specialy when i use win2kpro and now have winbinds so my pc look like xp but bot the bar down were you have the start button thats the only thing that looks bad. do i d/l desktopx no more deskbar that liik bad..but the window looks asum..

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