Boycott WinCustomize - share truly FREE sites with others
Wednesday, March 10, 2004 by Fuerza | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
If you are one, like me, who was caught off guard by the "Now you have to pay" notice to continue 'trying out' customizations for your PC, you can now have a voice. Reply to this post with sites you have found that offer truly FREE downloads for customizing your PC's look.
http://skinz.org/desktop-themes.phtml - LOTS of links to other sites
I am doing this primarily for the principle of the matter. The issue, for me, isn't necessarily the money (although I could see it being an issue for people with tight budgets - $20 could keep one from going hungry in a two week period). The issue is that NOTHING...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was mentioned about a 50 meg limit and/or a $20 fee to continue beyond that limit in ANY of the member registration screens or documents, including confirmation emails (I know because I printed them out). If I HAD known about this upfront, I would have left this site and I believe that is the fear of the organization maintaining this site - that if people know about this caveat, they will leave immediately and go elsewhere.
I will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard.
http://skinz.org/desktop-themes.phtml - LOTS of links to other sites
I am doing this primarily for the principle of the matter. The issue, for me, isn't necessarily the money (although I could see it being an issue for people with tight budgets - $20 could keep one from going hungry in a two week period). The issue is that NOTHING...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was mentioned about a 50 meg limit and/or a $20 fee to continue beyond that limit in ANY of the member registration screens or documents, including confirmation emails (I know because I printed them out). If I HAD known about this upfront, I would have left this site and I believe that is the fear of the organization maintaining this site - that if people know about this caveat, they will leave immediately and go elsewhere.
I will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard.
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Stockholm Syndrome
Reply #42 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:03 AM
Yup. It has more to do with preventing congress from making laws that would inhibit freedom of speech, no? not to allow trolls to freely flame on skin sites.
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Reply #42 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:03 AM
| Why is it that most people who bring up "freedom of speech" haven't a clue what it's about? Amendment 1 of the US Constitution: |
Yup. It has more to do with preventing congress from making laws that would inhibit freedom of speech, no? not to allow trolls to freely flame on skin sites.
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Shameless Designs
Reply #43 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:04 AM
Reply #43 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:04 AM
He's not exactly the brightest crayon in the box, but this boycott idea of his isn't bad... Imagine if all those that feel the way he does actually band together and do what he suggests... Oh my gawd... No more complaints on the message board... No more personalized skin demands... And all that ripe bandwidth just sitting there unused... Boy, that will teach us...
"Attica! Attica!"
"Attica! Attica!"
wulfn1
Reply #45 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:22 AM
mine regarding your pitiful whine :
Reply #45 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:22 AM
| ALL opinions are heard |
mine regarding your pitiful whine :
Jafo
Reply #46 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:24 AM
Reply #46 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:24 AM
| Try yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater |
How about on a plane....."I have a bomb"....
DigitalCHET
Reply #47 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:25 AM
Reply #47 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:25 AM
Or a bank, "Dis is a stick up! Gimme da cash!"
Stockholm Syndrome
Reply #48 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:48 AM
You're assuming they would actually -read- it before spewing though
Reply #48 Thursday, March 11, 2004 1:48 AM
| Perhaps a permanent article needs to be penned to display to/for all [sites] showing the history and evolution of the World of Skinning and its 'community'... |
You're assuming they would actually -read- it before spewing though
kona0197
Reply #49 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:11 AM
Reply #49 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:11 AM
kona0197 decides to put his thoughts in the pool...
Well I don't get it. $20 bucks is not alot of money considering it spans 2 years of unlimted downloads, and all the perks that come with the level 4 user status.
Not to metion all the friends you can make here. And all the stuff you can learn.
I would rather pay to contribute to a site that is very well moderated and deals with rips very well and helps with everything then download for free on a chessy site.
Long live good old WC.
Well I don't get it. $20 bucks is not alot of money considering it spans 2 years of unlimted downloads, and all the perks that come with the level 4 user status.
Not to metion all the friends you can make here. And all the stuff you can learn.
I would rather pay to contribute to a site that is very well moderated and deals with rips very well and helps with everything then download for free on a chessy site.
Long live good old WC.
Frogboy
Reply #50 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:29 AM
Reply #50 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:29 AM
Gotta love it.
"It's not that I'm cheap. It's the principle of the matter."
The principle of cheapness.
XX
Reply #51 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:37 AM
Now, THAT's funny. This site and all sites is dictator-owned. Suppose you owns a site with a forum, and someones annoying you? Ban that person.
You cannot enter someone's home and expect to be freely expressible. If there is children around, and those parents care, you will be kicked out screaming about freedom of speech. I am strong believer of freedom of speech, but there is limits.
Hmm all the talking made me hungry for popcorn. Pass me some please?
Reply #51 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:37 AM
| Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard. |
Now, THAT's funny. This site and all sites is dictator-owned. Suppose you owns a site with a forum, and someones annoying you? Ban that person.
You cannot enter someone's home and expect to be freely expressible. If there is children around, and those parents care, you will be kicked out screaming about freedom of speech. I am strong believer of freedom of speech, but there is limits.
Hmm all the talking made me hungry for popcorn. Pass me some please?
kona0197
Reply #52 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:39 AM
Reply #52 Thursday, March 11, 2004 2:39 AM
consider it passed. I bought it from a popcorn stand that was advertised earlier in the thread...
Styl-X Design
Reply #54 Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:07 AM
Can't even take 6 hours of sleep or I will miss all the action...
Reply #54 Thursday, March 11, 2004 3:07 AM
Can't even take 6 hours of sleep or I will miss all the action...
Z71
Reply #55 Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:25 AM
Reply #55 Thursday, March 11, 2004 4:25 AM
Lassie!? is that you?.........go get help.......
(Z71, wakes up from a bad dream) 
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(Z71, wakes up from a bad dream)
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DarkMist
Reply #56 Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:07 AM
Reply #56 Thursday, March 11, 2004 5:07 AM
In this case $20 seems to be causing you an issue, surely after spending $xxxx on a pc $20 is hardly breaking the bank....unless of course your pc is less than $20 then I rest my case and crawl back to where I came from
then I rest my case and crawl back to where I came from
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #57 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:19 AM
Reply #57 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:19 AM
Free speech? 
If we had free speech, Fuerza, I'd be calling you a ******. But as we don't have free speech, I'm not...
If we had free speech, Fuerza, I'd be calling you a ******. But as we don't have free speech, I'm not...
Kevin_C
Reply #58 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:35 AM
Reply #58 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:35 AM
man.. all this popcorn but no one wants any cashews?!?! Popcorn is good but you can't beat cashews for snacking while watching the drama unfold..
I have this sneaking suspicion we'll never hear from our friend again.. What a shame... Whaaat aaaa shaame!!
I have this sneaking suspicion we'll never hear from our friend again.. What a shame... Whaaat aaaa shaame!!
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #59 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:40 AM
Reply #59 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:40 AM
No, he won't post again. That's what trolls do. They dive in, create havoc, then stand back and watch the aftermath. That's why they're best ignored.
But sometimes the popcorn is too tempting for some...
But sometimes the popcorn is too tempting for some...
Erk.
Reply #60 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:57 AM
Reply #60 Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:57 AM
Well, I guess you can get down of your "high horse" or "soapbox" now eh Fuerza....
Sixty-one responses to your stupid rant, and not ONE of them went the way you hoped it would!
If anything at all,..... hopefully you learned a lesson from this.
So, since you are "monitoring"....
put up, or shut up and go away to one of your "free" sites.
I'll lay good money on the fact that once people like you have leeched those sites for all you can, you'll wanna come back here cos it will be one of the few sites still around when all the others have been bled dry.
Sixty-one responses to your stupid rant, and not ONE of them went the way you hoped it would!
If anything at all,..... hopefully you learned a lesson from this.
So, since you are "monitoring"....
put up, or shut up and go away to one of your "free" sites.
I'll lay good money on the fact that once people like you have leeched those sites for all you can, you'll wanna come back here cos it will be one of the few sites still around when all the others have been bled dry.
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Reply #41 Thursday, March 11, 2004 12:59 AM
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
Has nothing to do with privately owned message boards.
And not all public speech is protected by the Government either. Try yelling "Fire" in a crowded theater to start a panic and find out.
As for boycotting this site, it's hardly going to be hurt by people who don't contribute to the site in any appreciable manner no longer sucking up the bandwidth that others pay for. (That's the point of the download cap.)