Boycott WinCustomize - share truly FREE sites with others
Wednesday, March 10, 2004 by Fuerza | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
If you are one, like me, who was caught off guard by the "Now you have to pay" notice to continue 'trying out' customizations for your PC, you can now have a voice. Reply to this post with sites you have found that offer truly FREE downloads for customizing your PC's look.
http://skinz.org/desktop-themes.phtml - LOTS of links to other sites
I am doing this primarily for the principle of the matter. The issue, for me, isn't necessarily the money (although I could see it being an issue for people with tight budgets - $20 could keep one from going hungry in a two week period). The issue is that NOTHING...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was mentioned about a 50 meg limit and/or a $20 fee to continue beyond that limit in ANY of the member registration screens or documents, including confirmation emails (I know because I printed them out). If I HAD known about this upfront, I would have left this site and I believe that is the fear of the organization maintaining this site - that if people know about this caveat, they will leave immediately and go elsewhere.
I will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard.
http://skinz.org/desktop-themes.phtml - LOTS of links to other sites
I am doing this primarily for the principle of the matter. The issue, for me, isn't necessarily the money (although I could see it being an issue for people with tight budgets - $20 could keep one from going hungry in a two week period). The issue is that NOTHING...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING was mentioned about a 50 meg limit and/or a $20 fee to continue beyond that limit in ANY of the member registration screens or documents, including confirmation emails (I know because I printed them out). If I HAD known about this upfront, I would have left this site and I believe that is the fear of the organization maintaining this site - that if people know about this caveat, they will leave immediately and go elsewhere.
I will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard.
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yrag
Reply #3 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:20 PM
....I just read that part....
yrag thinks we won't need much popcorn with this 'person'......( oh yeah...freedom of speech and all, I meant to say 'moron'
)
Reply #3 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:20 PM
| I will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard |
....I just read that part....
yrag thinks we won't need much popcorn with this 'person'......( oh yeah...freedom of speech and all, I meant to say 'moron'
)
Sugaree
Reply #4 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:23 PM
Reply #4 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:23 PM
heh Funny, Fuerza linkage is to Skinz.org.
Skinz.org's (The Old one) Death, Is why Wincustomize was Born.
Skinz.org's (The Old one) Death, Is why Wincustomize was Born.
Erk.
Reply #5 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:27 PM
Opening a jumbo bag right now!
Erk. thinks this is gonna get interesting
Reply #5 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:27 PM
| Pass the Popcorn |
Opening a jumbo bag right now!
Erk. thinks this is gonna get interesting
Kevin_C
Reply #6 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:31 PM
Reply #6 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:31 PM
Straight from the FAQ here on this site:
Level 2: WinCustomize registered user. These are users who have created accounts. Accounts are free to create. Registered users can create posts, talk on the message boards, submit skins, make comments on skins, participate on polls, etc. In the future, there will be a cap on how many megabytes of content they can download without some sort of limitation being placed (such as being put into a download queue).
Seeing as your user number is 1023011 you must have downloaded A LOT of stuff in a fairly short amount of time. If you don't feel the site is worth your money, feel free to go away! Those of us who have purchased subscriptions obviously feel differently.
BTW, Freedom of Speech does not extend to this privately run forum. You can voice your opinions all you want but if you say something that violates the TOS you can be assured this thread will be locked or d.
Good Luck on your search for the ultimate free skin site.
Kicks back to watch the rest of the show! Anyone like Cashews?!?
Level 2: WinCustomize registered user. These are users who have created accounts. Accounts are free to create. Registered users can create posts, talk on the message boards, submit skins, make comments on skins, participate on polls, etc. In the future, there will be a cap on how many megabytes of content they can download without some sort of limitation being placed (such as being put into a download queue).
Seeing as your user number is 1023011 you must have downloaded A LOT of stuff in a fairly short amount of time. If you don't feel the site is worth your money, feel free to go away! Those of us who have purchased subscriptions obviously feel differently.
BTW, Freedom of Speech does not extend to this privately run forum. You can voice your opinions all you want but if you say something that violates the TOS you can be assured this thread will be locked or d.
Good Luck on your search for the ultimate free skin site.
Kicks back to watch the rest of the show! Anyone like Cashews?!?
Sput
Reply #7 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:34 PM
Reply #7 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:34 PM
Wow, someone that want's free as in speech and free as in beer all in one post!
Thank goodness other people decide to CONTRIBUTE to this site for FREE...
Thank goodness other people decide to CONTRIBUTE to this site for FREE...
Sugaree
Reply #8 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:36 PM
Helloooo, I'm your bartress this evening. The Beer is on the House!
Reply #8 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:36 PM
Helloooo, I'm your bartress this evening. The Beer is on the House!
Erk.
Reply #9 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:38 PM
Reply #9 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:38 PM
.... I could also give you my opinion for FREE!
me me me
it's all about ME!
I want it all..... for FREE
heh, if only people would take the time to RTFM (or FAQ)
me me me
it's all about ME!
I want it all..... for FREE
heh, if only people would take the time to RTFM (or FAQ)
Jafo
Reply #10 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:04 PM
Reply #10 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:04 PM
| will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard. |
Sorry, lad...but no, you are quite wrong. Wincustomize.com is a publicly accessed PRIVATE site which can incorporate any laws and/or limitations its Admins/Owners/members so desire.
Stockholm Syndrome
Reply #11 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:06 PM
Please, do, continue "monitoring". Hopefully that activity will keep you too busy to do much more "typing".
Freedom of speech laws do not say that anyone can visit someone's PRIVATE site and spew their nonsense at will. Bye!
[Message Edited]
Reply #11 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:06 PM
| I will monitor my post closely for any type of tampering or censorship by the administrators as there was nothing stated in the registration that the forums are moderated and/or censored. Freedom of Speech laws insure that ALL opinions are heard. |
Please, do, continue "monitoring". Hopefully that activity will keep you too busy to do much more "typing".
Freedom of speech laws do not say that anyone can visit someone's PRIVATE site and spew their nonsense at will. Bye!
[Message Edited]
Jafo
Reply #12 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:10 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:10 PM
To add.....Wincustomize.com was born out of the demise of Skinz.org, at a time when other sites including Customize.org and Deskmod were both down or not back yet, etc....and a stable, assured site was actually NEEDED to fill the void.
There will always be a problem with the new and naive being unaware of history as it pertains to skinning.
Perhaps a permanent article needs to be penned to display to/for all [sites] showing the history and evolution of the World of Skinning and its 'community'...
Stockholm Syndrome
Reply #13 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:17 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:17 PM
That is a lovely set of links though. Some very nice items.
http://www.xptheme.info/resources_view.cfm/hurl/restype_id=13/
Gee I wonder if mormegil sent that theme himself.
http://www.xptheme.info/resources_view.cfm/hurl/restype_id=13/
Gee I wonder if mormegil sent that theme himself.
yrag
Reply #14 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:17 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:17 PM
...I can think of something else "permanent" that would work just as well...........
HG_Eliminator
Reply #15 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:17 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:17 PM
um its a privately owned site so freedon of speach dosent apply here ..........hahahahahahaha
HG_Eliminator
Reply #16 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:22 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:22 PM
ohhh yeh if ya consider annoying popups etc. FREE....NOT... id rather pay the $20 and not have to deal with them alone .. not to mention not all skinners found here post their skins at other sites ...
Apocalypse_67
Reply #17 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:37 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:37 PM
Ok 1st and foremost (and even more important than the waste of space in the message board by this thread) No one, and I mean NO ONE will have any popcorn unless is bought at my stand >
2nd and far less important. Fuerza if you had any principles at all you would've saved your self the time and effort of this useless thread. If money isn't the issue, then please move on with out any sorrow.
Nothing is free in life, and neither is the usage of bandwidth with out contribution (I might want to charge you for the use of any of my designs)
If you have not contributed in any form (via uploads or money) then you have lost nothing, so there is nothing to know 'upfront' so you can pack up your little ego and be on your way to those "free" sites.
And last but not least. Think of this as your neighbor's house.... Once you step inside, you have no freedom of anything you are under his roof so thereby you live by his rules. So don’t be surprise if you find yourself bearing an exile title or removed from the place due to the arrogance assumption that you can voice threats about laws in a privately owned site.
That been said. We all hope you've enjoyed your visit here and the designs you have downloaded prior to the 50 Megs cap-out.
P.S. Popcorn.......$1.00 [Extra butter...add 10¢ more ]
2nd and far less important. Fuerza if you had any principles at all you would've saved your self the time and effort of this useless thread. If money isn't the issue, then please move on with out any sorrow.
Nothing is free in life, and neither is the usage of bandwidth with out contribution (I might want to charge you for the use of any of my designs)
If you have not contributed in any form (via uploads or money) then you have lost nothing, so there is nothing to know 'upfront' so you can pack up your little ego and be on your way to those "free" sites.
And last but not least. Think of this as your neighbor's house.... Once you step inside, you have no freedom of anything you are under his roof so thereby you live by his rules. So don’t be surprise if you find yourself bearing an exile title or removed from the place due to the arrogance assumption that you can voice threats about laws in a privately owned site.
That been said. We all hope you've enjoyed your visit here and the designs you have downloaded prior to the 50 Megs cap-out.
P.S. Popcorn.......$1.00 [Extra butter...add 10¢ more
]
Jafo
Reply #18 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:47 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:47 PM
| you find yourself bearing an exile title or removed from the place due to the arrogance assumption that you can voice threats about laws in a privately owned site |
Nope....we're hardly that petty, preferring kind explanation to vindictive removal...
One way or another everything in life has a price.
You like - you pay - you stay. You no like - you no pay - you leave....
eieio
Reply #19 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:53 PM Some people just crack me up!
Freedom of speech? This isn't a Government run site you know.
The ironic part is, Fuerza, if you would have come here on the board with a good attitude and tried to contribute in a meaningful way, you could have earned the right to unlimited downloads. Not to mention made a lot of good friends and maybe learned something about skinning while you were at it.
Reply #19 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:53 PM
Some people just crack me up!Freedom of speech? This isn't a Government run site you know.
The ironic part is, Fuerza, if you would have come here on the board with a good attitude and tried to contribute in a meaningful way, you could have earned the right to unlimited downloads. Not to mention made a lot of good friends and maybe learned something about skinning while you were at it.
MGiff
Reply #20 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:57 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:57 PM
When I first found this site, I said "wow, no popups/unders, great material and usually friendly people". I had no clue about the download limit but when it occured, I quickly and quietly paid for precisely the reasons I stated in the above sentence. You get what you pay for..........
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Reply #1 Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:13 PM