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Wednesday, February 11, 2004 by Morph-O-Matic | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I had a couple of questions, any help would be much obliged.If I bought "Object Desktop" what comes with that? (i.e., Window Blinds, cursorXP???... any others???) If Object Desktop does have all that stuff....can I buy it in a store? If so....where? Thats all for now, Thank You.
Essencay
Reply #2 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:48 PM
Reply #2 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:48 PM
Koasati is too quick 
https://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/features.asp This link shows all the individual components of ODNT and has download links to all the components that have a demo/trial version
https://www.stardock.com/products/odnt/features.asp This link shows all the individual components of ODNT and has download links to all the components that have a demo/trial version
Morph-O-Matic
Reply #3 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:18 PM
Reply #3 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:18 PM
Wow, that's alot of stuff...for only $50 none the less. But how would someone without a cc go about buying? Any suggestions? I absolutly love every aspect that this website provides, and I'd really like to learn to create my own skins.
Stumpy
Reply #4 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:25 PM
Reply #4 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 2:25 PM
Look here 
Link >>> https://www.stardock.com/order.txt
Link >>> https://www.stardock.com/order.txt
Morph-O-Matic
Reply #5 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:33 PM
Reply #5 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:33 PM
Thank you very much. All the help is much appreciated, happy morphing
Morph-O-Matic
Reply #6 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:36 PM
Reply #6 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 6:36 PM
Oh, I had another question. I was looking at the trial version of Skin Studio, and I was wondering if anyone could reccomend a "top of the line" paint program for editing with? Thank You.
WOM
Reply #7 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:13 PM
Reply #7 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:13 PM
Theres Photo Shop, Paint Shop Pro and a handfull of others. Hust depends on what you want to do and how much you want to spend. Gimp is free.
kongit
Reply #8 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:16 PM
Reply #8 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 7:16 PM
gIMp 
It might be hard, but its free, and its almost as powerful as photoshop in my opinion, and is better than paintshop pro in my opinion. Of course if you don't know how to use either photoshop or paintshop its best to start with one of them becasue gImP is not easy to learn.
It might be hard, but its free, and its almost as powerful as photoshop in my opinion, and is better than paintshop pro in my opinion. Of course if you don't know how to use either photoshop or paintshop its best to start with one of them becasue gImP is not easy to learn.
Morph-O-Matic
Reply #9 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:27 PM
Reply #9 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:27 PM
Well shoot me some prices, I want what is being used to create all these magnificent skins!
kongit
Reply #10 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:34 PM
Reply #10 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:34 PM
photoshop - expensive (~600+ dollars)
corel graphics -> I think its ~450 depending
paintshop pro -> about a hundred I think
gimp - free
corel graphics -> I think its ~450 depending
paintshop pro -> about a hundred I think
gimp - free
Morph-O-Matic
Reply #11 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:41 PM
Reply #11 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:41 PM
OMG!!!! Ok, that may be a bit expensive! I'm downloading gimp now, thank you for the direction.
kongit
Reply #12 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:42 PM
Reply #12 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:42 PM
uh I'd download the trial of paintshop if you have never used a graphics program before
gimp = hard to learn
gimp = hard to learn
Koasati
Reply #13 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:46 PM
Reply #13 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:46 PM
I've seen Paint Shop Pro for as little as $49 at Best Buy. And I disagree with Travis about gimp being better than PSP. I've used both, they're both powerful, but gimp is a pain to learn, and use.. IMHO.
Koasati
Reply #14 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:51 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:51 PM
I do agree with him about downloading the trial of PSP 8 http://www.jasc.com/products/trialreg.asp?pid=k-psp8-usdir
http://www.jasc.com/products/trialreg.asp?pid=k-psp8-usdir
Shameless Designs
Reply #15 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:58 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 8:58 PM
I also agree that giving the free trial download of PSP would be a very smart move if you haven't much experience with graphics creation or editing programs. I've been using Photoshop and PSP for years, as well as various CAD programs, and I still found the learning curve on the GIMP to be pretty steep, and at least for me, not worth the effort.
If you shop around some on the net through discount sellers you can find PSP 8 for between $65-$75 for the full version. I have also seen PSP 7 packages on eBay for under $50, and PSP 7 has served a lot of us very well for several years.
If you shop around some on the net through discount sellers you can find PSP 8 for between $65-$75 for the full version. I have also seen PSP 7 packages on eBay for under $50, and PSP 7 has served a lot of us very well for several years.
kongit
Reply #16 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:13 PM
Reply #16 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:13 PM
well I like gimp better than psp, but thats probably just me....it also doesn't hurt that gimp runs in linux, my preferred os right now. I thought psp was more expensive than 50 dollars, but hey cheaper is better
I have also priced older copies of photoshop on ebay for a little as 100 dollars. granted these are not fresh and you will not get any support from adobe. You can find unopened older copies on ebay too, but they cost more.
I have also priced older copies of photoshop on ebay for a little as 100 dollars. granted these are not fresh and you will not get any support from adobe. You can find unopened older copies on ebay too, but they cost more.
Morph-O-Matic
Reply #17 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:18 PM
Reply #17 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:18 PM
I "dabled" with "Style Builder" for awhile a couple months ago....but WB is much , much better. I used the trial version of PSP7, so I am some what familiar with the format. Checking it out now.....
Shameless Designs
Reply #18 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:59 PM
Reply #18 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:59 PM
I hope I didn't mislead anyone by my assessment of GIMP. From everything I've learned, it's a very capable graphics package. And your point about LINUX is important, I think, Travis. From what I understand, GIMP does play better on LINUX than Windows. That was one of the problems I had with GIMP was getting it set up to work well with Windows. Actually, it's a problem I still have 
It should also be noted that I'm an old dog, and some days it's challenge enough just to remember the tricks I learned as a pup, much less find the energy to learn a new trick.
It should also be noted that I'm an old dog, and some days it's challenge enough just to remember the tricks I learned as a pup, much less find the energy to learn a new trick.
Jafo
Reply #19 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:26 PM
Reply #19 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:26 PM
GIMP is just a bit 'odd' in the way you do things....less logical than other proggies...
PSP 5 is a freely accessible proggy which is a perfect starting point....if it's not a free link on the net you should still find it on Comp Mag CDs...
Jafo
Reply #20 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:27 PM
Reply #20 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:27 PM
Forgot.....once you've got the hang of the free, full PSP 5, it'll whet your appetite for a later/newer version....but by then you'll know whether it's worth the outlay...
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Reply #1 Wednesday, February 11, 2004 12:45 PM
The program included in the ObjectDesktop package are;
BandVWM
Component Tray
Control Center
DesktopX
DriveScan
IconDeveloper
IconPackager
Keyboard Launchpad
Object Edit
Object Sweeper
Objectbar
ObjectMedia
ObjectZip
SkinStudio Profefessional
SpringFolders
Tab LaunchPad
Theme Manager
TreeView
TweakShell
WindowBlinds
WindowFX
To my knowledge you can't buy it in a store, only from Stardock.