Hard Disk Trouble.... Plz Help Me Now
Saturday, January 24, 2004 by alp65 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hey guys,
Ok here is the problem I am experianceing this instant.. I have a IBM-DTLA-307030 30 GB Hard Disk. Someone not too soon ago it started making noises in the following order (buzz buzz buzz buzz) and there is a pause (buzz buzz buzz buzz) its always 4 buzzes. The hard disk does this from sometimes just around 30 seconds to sevral minutes. Everything else pauses on the pc when it is making these noises. It happend before and we reainstalled everything and reformated the disk etc and it was ok. But now its back after about 1 1/2 years. This happens when for example I go to star and click on programs. It takes time as if it is searching for something. Some of our programs are also gone.. Could this be a virus because I remember stumbling across a hacking website and downloading one of thier programs too see what it was from the description but I highly doubt that because I had downloaded many before and examine them. Kind of a hobby
. Well I was hopeing you guys could tell me if this is a virus or something wrong with the hard disk. I really need your help. Thanks 
Ok here is the problem I am experianceing this instant.. I have a IBM-DTLA-307030 30 GB Hard Disk. Someone not too soon ago it started making noises in the following order (buzz buzz buzz buzz) and there is a pause (buzz buzz buzz buzz) its always 4 buzzes. The hard disk does this from sometimes just around 30 seconds to sevral minutes. Everything else pauses on the pc when it is making these noises. It happend before and we reainstalled everything and reformated the disk etc and it was ok. But now its back after about 1 1/2 years. This happens when for example I go to star and click on programs. It takes time as if it is searching for something. Some of our programs are also gone.. Could this be a virus because I remember stumbling across a hacking website and downloading one of thier programs too see what it was from the description but I highly doubt that because I had downloaded many before and examine them. Kind of a hobby
. Well I was hopeing you guys could tell me if this is a virus or something wrong with the hard disk. I really need your help. Thanks 
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Leo the Lion
Reply #2 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:10 PM
Reply #2 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:10 PM
With all that buzzing are you sure you have not got a Beehive in your case 
Seriously though - is the buzzing noise coming form the hard disk?
Seriously though - is the buzzing noise coming form the hard disk?
Essencay
Reply #3 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:10 PM
Reply #3 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:10 PM
Have you defragged it? If you have a lot of data on the disk and it hasn't been defragged, it'll jump all over the place looking for stuff and slow down your PC
HG_Eliminator
Reply #4 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:16 PM
Reply #4 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:16 PM
yes a defrag is very vital to a hdd's ability to read and write to it. i run a defrag daily .. but im also constantly working on some thing..
a rule of thumb is defrag weekly. the more often u defrag the less timr it takes to defrag .. also it will keep your HDD nice and neat ...
ok heres an example ... say your hdd is like your room/ house...after a while of not straightening it up , things get hard to find and get lost .. a hdd is the same way ..the defragmentor is like the maid /or your mom. it comes in and puts everything where it should be ......
run a scandisk and a defrag at least once a week or more depending on your computer usage ..
if it is still making noise it's probably abt to die....yes there are utilities that can quiet the hdd .. but actually what they do is slow the speed of the hdd ....slowing the HDD will make less noise and can extend the life of a dieng HDD but its not a fix .....if it was running b4 quietly then there is a reason its making noise ...morinlikely it warning you it's on its last leg ....
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a rule of thumb is defrag weekly. the more often u defrag the less timr it takes to defrag .. also it will keep your HDD nice and neat ...
ok heres an example ... say your hdd is like your room/ house...after a while of not straightening it up , things get hard to find and get lost .. a hdd is the same way ..the defragmentor is like the maid /or your mom. it comes in and puts everything where it should be ......
run a scandisk and a defrag at least once a week or more depending on your computer usage ..
if it is still making noise it's probably abt to die....yes there are utilities that can quiet the hdd .. but actually what they do is slow the speed of the hdd ....slowing the HDD will make less noise and can extend the life of a dieng HDD but its not a fix .....if it was running b4 quietly then there is a reason its making noise ...morinlikely it warning you it's on its last leg ....
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alp65
Reply #5 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:30 PM
Reply #5 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:30 PM
Well I defragmented it and some files could not be moved.. Some files like MS Outlook cannot be found lol the shorcut is cut.. heh.. 
We had the hard disk making noises before and it survied but I also found some trojans on the pc that wouldnt get removed I tried using regedit but it dident detect anything on the run folder and I looked at the processes and hell I even downloaded a program that shows all the hidden processes and nothing at all came up Im totally confused and lost in this situation lol
We had the hard disk making noises before and it survied but I also found some trojans on the pc that wouldnt get removed I tried using regedit but it dident detect anything on the run folder and I looked at the processes and hell I even downloaded a program that shows all the hidden processes and nothing at all came up Im totally confused and lost in this situation lol
HG_Eliminator
Reply #6 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:31 PM
Reply #6 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:31 PM
also i will try to keep my rant to a minimum ..
but .. heat is the biggest culprit of pc hardware failure ...a pc bought out of the box has only enough fans to allow the pc to barely last through the warranty period b 4 it starts having hardware failure ...i advise that any pc have, in every open fan slot a running fan,as these pc's get faster and hotter they burn up faster if heat is not regulated ....look at an older pc's and most new pcs out of the box, the amount of fans has remained the same ,, 1 cpu fan and 1 case fan,, tho the cpu fans and heat sinks are made for the faster cpus , theres little to no case circulation..which means more heat buildup ..hdd's now also are running faster which means even more heat ...as a pc gets faster its air flow should be increased ..
also buy a can of air. and blow the thing out ... i have had many customers bring me pc's that were toasted .. merely cause they never blew out the dust that builds up on the fans and openings ...
but .. heat is the biggest culprit of pc hardware failure ...a pc bought out of the box has only enough fans to allow the pc to barely last through the warranty period b 4 it starts having hardware failure ...i advise that any pc have, in every open fan slot a running fan,as these pc's get faster and hotter they burn up faster if heat is not regulated ....look at an older pc's and most new pcs out of the box, the amount of fans has remained the same ,, 1 cpu fan and 1 case fan,, tho the cpu fans and heat sinks are made for the faster cpus , theres little to no case circulation..which means more heat buildup ..hdd's now also are running faster which means even more heat ...as a pc gets faster its air flow should be increased ..
also buy a can of air. and blow the thing out ... i have had many customers bring me pc's that were toasted .. merely cause they never blew out the dust that builds up on the fans and openings ...
HG_Eliminator
Reply #7 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:33 PM
Reply #7 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:33 PM
ok ur virus scanner found some trojans ? couldnt it remove the infected files ?
HG_Eliminator
Reply #8 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:35 PM
Reply #8 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:35 PM
post the names of the files so we can look them up and find fixes
alp65
Reply #9 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:35 PM
Reply #9 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:35 PM
Nope the virus scanner couldnt remove them. I even used www.antivirus.com live scan on my pc which is always updated and Norton Antivirus my own program.
alp65
Reply #10 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:39 PM
Reply #10 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:39 PM
Well Guys Im going to bed I thank to all of you for the help I will be back in about 10 hours so please help me with some ideas on how to fix this problem. You guys are great thanks all
HG_Eliminator
Reply #11 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:41 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:41 PM
if u post the names of the viruses found, fixes could be looked up for you ...
SelfExiled
Reply #12 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:48 AM
Reply #12 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:48 AM
Get Spybot Search and Destroy. It can normally dlete trojans better than Norton, and its free. Also, get a firewall. Norton will allow you to quarantine the files, at the very least. Then, if you restart, you can search for the file, which is still there, just blocked from interfering with your system processes. You should be able to delete it now. Just search for the file, given by Norton, and delete it yourself. Then, rerun Norton AV and the file should be gone. That is how I got rid of a trojan that Norton couldn't remove.
SelfExiled
Reply #13 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:50 AM
Reply #13 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:50 AM
Remember to empty your recycle bin after you delete the file.
wombat_1
Reply #15 Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:12 AM
Might even need to take the drive out on trash day!
Spybot Search and Destroy is very good, beats AdAware any day, it is 'Free' but I think a donation is the least one can do
to say 'Thank You' for the time and effort involved.
Reply #15 Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:12 AM
| remember to take the trash out on trash day |
Might even need to take the drive out on trash day!
Spybot Search and Destroy is very good, beats AdAware any day, it is 'Free' but I think a donation is the least one can do
to say 'Thank You' for the time and effort involved.
Essencay
Reply #16 Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:40 AM
Reply #16 Sunday, January 25, 2004 3:40 AM
Good Points on Fans and Maintenance HG....specially the maintenance....[more fans]=[more airflow]=[more crap collecting inside the case]
Also on da fans...
If your case can handle a fan for the hard drive get one
If your motherboard has speed-throttling (slows down fan on cpu 'YIKES!!!) to reduce noise level....don't use it. An increase in heat (even minute) will decrease life of CPU.
Cables....does the inside of your case look all wobbed-up. Excess cables and stuff just literally stuffed all over the place inside your case reduces airflow. Zip-Ties, shorter cables, them new streamline cables, etc. every little bit helps.
Also on da fans...
If your case can handle a fan for the hard drive get one
If your motherboard has speed-throttling (slows down fan on cpu 'YIKES!!!) to reduce noise level....don't use it. An increase in heat (even minute) will decrease life of CPU.
Cables....does the inside of your case look all wobbed-up. Excess cables and stuff just literally stuffed all over the place inside your case reduces airflow. Zip-Ties, shorter cables, them new streamline cables, etc. every little bit helps.
DK61650
Reply #17 Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:55 AM
Reply #17 Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:55 AM
Next computer buy alienware! Gel cooled! Wonderful machine! Every night I hold mine and pet it and love it and call it George! 
DK61650
Reply #18 Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:57 AM
Reply #18 Sunday, January 25, 2004 11:57 AM
Might even need to take the drive out on trash day!
Spybot Search and Destroy is very good, beats AdAware any day, it is 'Free' but I think a donation is the least one can do
to say 'Thank You' for the time and effort involved.
PS Ain't free no mo'
fred
Spybot Search and Destroy is very good, beats AdAware any day, it is 'Free' but I think a donation is the least one can do
to say 'Thank You' for the time and effort involved.
PS Ain't free no mo'
fred
Essencay
Reply #19 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:03 PM
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download Looks free to me. He does work hard on the proggie and it is well worth making a donation.
If you have earthlink, their Total Access software has Spyware Blocker software with it. It has actually found stuff, not much, that Spybot didn't catch.
Reply #19 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:03 PM
| PS Ain't free no mo' |
http://www.safer-networking.org/index.php?page=download Looks free to me. He does work hard on the proggie and it is well worth making a donation.
If you have earthlink, their Total Access software has Spyware Blocker software with it. It has actually found stuff, not much, that Spybot didn't catch.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #20 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:26 PM
Reply #20 Sunday, January 25, 2004 2:26 PM
i use both adaware and spybot.. one always finds stuff the other dont.. as a gamer my online performange is a necessity... so any thing that eats up my bandwidth must go.....
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Reply #1 Saturday, January 24, 2004 7:08 PM
There is a utility that IBM makes that MIGHT fix it.
I will see if I can find it as I also have had similar problems with that drive.