Help! It's dead.......!

Wednesday, January 21, 2004 by BoXXi | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

My optical mouse appears to have died... I started the puter this morning and had no light on my mouse or movement of my cursor. Does anyone know if this is a common occurrence with the Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer? Do I have to buy a new one, or could it be something other than the mouse itself? Any suggestions are welcome.

(The mouse is approx. 3 years old, is connected via USB, and has only been dropped once...

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BoXXi
Reply #41 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:05 PM

Of Course!!..... while I'm in there I'll also twoggle my grommit and splink my manamana...............

BoXXi is very NONtechnical.......

IPlural
Reply #42 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:10 PM
mmm, if you open the box and look at the back side of the ports there will be two cables coming off it, one from each seperate port, if there is a third wire set or ribbon cable that comes off it to the motherboard it is a powered set of ports, in the manual it might be called (shared because it shares the channel, but needs power added to it because of the extra voltage needed to power more than the first two ports)

mmm
hmmmm

let me look for a graphics displaying what I mean and I'll post it... visuals always help
kona0197
Reply #43 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:18 PM
mmm, if you open the box and look at the back side of the ports there will be two cables coming off it,


IP, those are only the front panel USB. back panel USB are always usually built into the board.
DesignCaddy
Reply #44 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:22 PM
#41 by Wizop BoXXi


IPlural
Reply #45 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:26 PM
http://www.frontx.com/con_guide.html Internal

http://www.frontx.com/install.html External

hope this helps explain better than I could
crissy14
Reply #46 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:31 PM
This may sound like a stupid question, But in device manager, is the usb port enabled? Did it accidently become disabled? or did the driver accidently get deleted?
IPlural
Reply #47 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:32 PM
Kona, yes but back and front will have shared port channels on some motherboards which will demand an extra power source becuase the single power source is not enough for more than the onboard ports... you have to add a second to up the juice to power the back/addons

Asus comes to mind, the A7V 133kt mother boards where like this...
IPlural
Reply #48 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:37 PM
Crissy that is not stuipd nore silly to wonder in the least and it is one of the first things to check in the trouble shooting process when you turn from the device itself to the system

I would probably delete everything in the Hadrware list dealing with USB and reboot so windows will find new hardware and reinstall things how it wants them to be installed (resources and such) and I would also look in the admin logs to see if anything untold took place right before the mouse quit working if this is Windows XP. If Windows 98 I would run Computer Information in the Accessories/System Utils to see what it returned to make sure it actually sees the port in question...

Spikes and such, devices, such as DC mentioned can also zap the sysem and cause windows to loose site of devices at odd moments...
yrag
Reply #49 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 4:54 PM
I come back 2 hours later and this thread looks like Tech.Com

BoXXi - use the PS2 port and be done with it... you'll be happy and so will your mouse



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Apocalypse_67
Reply #50 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:03 PM
BoXXi, go with what Yrag said
But if you want to try something, re-start your PC and check your BIOS, make sure that all USB ports are 'enable'
My PC has 2 USB port in the back and 2 in front, some times for no apparent reason it disables the ports and I have to 'enable' them in the BIOS setup.
Jafo
Reply #51 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:16 PM

Bryan....do as yrag says....I've been running the same mouse as yours via the PS2 port since day one....and no problems at all. Reason?...at the time my comp only had 2 USBs so it was a waste of one not to be on PS2.

Now I have 8 USBs...and still use the PS2....

IPlural
Reply #52 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 5:46 PM
true, yrags way be done with it, though, still leaves the question if the port is working?



j/k

it would remove the issue completely

Which would give you more time to write!!!!!!
XX
Reply #53 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 8:14 PM
so how do I tell which are the powered ports?


In devices list, right click the usb root and click properies. It will show current voltage lleft if active, nothing otherwise.
kona0197
Reply #54 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:27 PM
Kona, yes but back and front will have shared port channels on some motherboards which will demand an extra power source becuase the single power source is not enough for more than the onboard ports... you have to add a second to up the juice to power the back/addons


Never seen that and i have seen alot of mobos. Weird.
IPlural
Reply #55 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 10:54 PM
oh, I've seen a a couple of mother boards since 1986..

here...

http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A7V&langs=09

Back Panel I/O Ports 2 x USB Ports
1 x Parallel Port (EPP, ECP) and 2 x Serial Ports
1 x PS/2 Keyboard Port, 1 x PS/2 Mouse Port
----------
Onboard I/O Interface 3-Headers to Support Optional 5 USB Ports <---- this is where you have to add a secondary power source... the optional 5 + 2 = 7 and the 2 usb channels do not have enough juice to run power to a total of 7 so you can to add to it...
----------
SIR (Integrated Serial Infrared)
CPU/Power Supply/Chassis Fan
ATX Power
IDE LED


I could dig around and find a new mother board as an example but know of this one right off the top because of putting them together for different people a couple of years back.
kona0197
Reply #56 Wednesday, January 21, 2004 11:13 PM
Onboard I/O Interface 3-Headers to Support Optional 5 USB Ports <---- this is where you have to add a secondary power source... the optional 5 + 2 = 7 and the 2 usb channels do not have enough juice to run power to a total of 7 so you can to add to it...


boards I have seen have 4 usb build into the board and 2 headers on the mobo for front USB support.
BoXXi
Reply #57 Thursday, January 22, 2004 1:05 AM

IPlural:  Sorry, I had to go to work....... thanks for the links, I understand now. I think I will leave the mouse in the P/S2 port for now, as there is no discernible difference that I can see. I'm just happy to get rid of that damn 2 button mouse, it felt like I had one of my arms removed! Aaaaahh.....4 buttons and a wheel.... Heaven!!

Thanks to everyone who put forward suggestions.....I can always rely on you guys to sort me out!

IPlural
Reply #58 Thursday, January 22, 2004 2:55 AM
cool

Now go write some YUM!!! ;(

paabababableeeeeze mr BoXXi

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