interesting accident
Sunday, January 18, 2004 by kongit | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
did you know that your computer will run without having explorer.exe on it anymore. I didn't, but I do now.
wierd.
now my question is how do I get it back without reinstalling windows?
wierd.
now my question is how do I get it back without reinstalling windows?
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Koasati
Reply #2 Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:49 PM
Reply #2 Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:49 PM
Yes, I knew that.......... some of the earlier HvD betas had a habit of crashing, taking explorer.exe with it. So, Tib wrote a little app that would restart explorer.exe with a simple 'cntrl-alt-insert' and Enter...... You can restart it by opening Task Manager, and using the new task option, browse to the Windows folder, and select explorer.exe there.
You can restart it by opening Task Manager, and using the new task option, browse to the Windows folder, and select explorer.exe there.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #3 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:11 PM
Reply #3 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:11 PM
if u stop the explorer.exe it will restart automatically if u reboot .. if u deleted it then ud need to open task manager and look for it in your pc...then copy it to the folder u deleted it from....windows will stay runnning with out the explorer. but ud need either the explorer shell or the litestep shell to easily acess any files ...
kongit
Reply #4 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:43 PM
Reply #4 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:43 PM
I totally deleted it. What happened was I changed it to see if something worked. It didn't. So in my frustration I though that if I got rid of them windows would notice on the restart and ask me to put in the windows cd and reinstall the originals. I went into the recovery console and killed them all. then I restarted. windows didn't notice that explorer was missing so I was missing the startbar and all the other things that explorer does. Finally I just reinstalled windows. It all works now 
I ain't messing with no system files ever again.
I ain't messing with no system files ever again.
HG_Eliminator
Reply #5 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:47 PM
Reply #5 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:47 PM
hehe actually u can make duplicates of them and put them in a folder .. and if u ever accidentally delete them u can use the task manager to browse ur pc and acess the explorere.exe from there then copy the stored files back to their proper folders ...
kongit
Reply #7 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:49 PM
Reply #7 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:49 PM
the accident was me assuming windows would do something it wouldn't
HG_Eliminator
Reply #8 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:54 PM
Reply #8 Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:54 PM
i understand it wasent an accident. i was refering to how u can back up them just incase u ever do accidentally delete them .. or onpurpose delete them .. the stored files wount be used by your pc til u tell it to ...but is a safe and easy way to fix booboos....the prob with reinstalling with a windows disk is that alot of times it will re write all the system files back to the defaults ..so any prog that made registry changes or other system file changes now is null and void...also u may loose any updates u have done at windows update ....
Jafo
Reply #9 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:15 PM
Reply #9 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:15 PM
Explorer.exe is the standard shell in Windows....the 'thing' that provides you that typical desktop interface....start bar, icons, time, etc.
People who use alternate shells [such as LiteSTEP] are [or should be] aware that a Windows OS will 'run' without it...as the Kernel is what is 'running' and that's separate.
Fortunately the Task Manager is intentionally separate from Explorer as well so it's a 'back door' to get Explorer.exe running again.
With the new-found stability of XP and 2000 compared with the 9x vintage, you may just have found that Explorer crashing is a novelty, but in 9x it was commonplace and one of the incentives to adopt alternatives...
macrobaye
Reply #12 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:30 PM
Reply #12 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:30 PM
aren't as fun! that's the point for many people in getting a mac....now if by not as fun you mean easier to get yourself screwed over and having to figure out how to get out of trouble, then you are 100% correct.
macrobaye
Reply #14 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:30 PM
Reply #14 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:30 PM
and a comparable mac and pc are the same price. plus, macs are much less expensive to maintain
Essencay
Reply #15 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:32 PM
Reply #15 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:32 PM
On the rare instance the explorer.exe crashes on my cpu....it restarts itself and everything is fine. Only a couple of times did it not restart and I had to reboot my PC. A proggie called TweakNow PowerPack lets you set this as an option http://www.tweaknow.com/
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #16 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:35 PM
Reply #16 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:35 PM
Sigh. XP is so stable you don't have to do anything 'drastic'. Just open task manager, click 'File > New task (Run)' and type explorer.exe in the box, click 'ok' and explorer will restart. No problem 
HG_Eliminator
Reply #17 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:42 PM
Reply #17 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:42 PM
geez it sounds like we got a mac salesman in here .. **looks over shoulder ** 
kongit
Reply #18 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:43 PM
Reply #18 Sunday, January 18, 2004 6:43 PM
explorer never crashed. nothing bad happened. I deleted explorer.exe in its entirety. My accident was thinking that windows would automatically ask me to insert the cd and reinstall explorer.exe. it didn't so I had to reinstall the whole dern thing. xp is very stable. I haven't had a single crash. Sometimes third party devices and software don't always work right, but thats where you learn more about windows.
begin mac rant:
If apple had as many third party apps and drivers as xp it wouldn't be nearly as stable as xp. Apples stability comes from its centralization of programs. that is why I don't like macs, they are built by apple for apple products. xp is built by microsoft for an incredible variety of other products including their own. In fact often I find microsofts own programs to be less stable then third party's.
end mac rant
begin mac rant:
If apple had as many third party apps and drivers as xp it wouldn't be nearly as stable as xp. Apples stability comes from its centralization of programs. that is why I don't like macs, they are built by apple for apple products. xp is built by microsoft for an incredible variety of other products including their own. In fact often I find microsofts own programs to be less stable then third party's.
end mac rant
digital_trucker
Reply #19 Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:30 PM
Reply #19 Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:30 PM
Macs are also less expensive to upgrade...'cause ya can't.
You're stuck with what ya got until ya buy a whole new one.
You're stuck with what ya got until ya buy a whole new one.
c242
Reply #20 Monday, January 19, 2004 3:42 AM
Reply #20 Monday, January 19, 2004 3:42 AM
macrobaye : Your mac praising starts to become annoying. >
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Reply #1 Sunday, January 18, 2004 1:37 PM
C:\WINDOWS
C:\WINDOWS\LastGood
C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386
C:\WINDOWS\$NtServicePackUninstall$
C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB820291$
possibly you could copy it from one location to the C:\WINDOWS folder