Post here to get rated
Wednesday, January 7, 2004 by Gear7 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I lost the ratings on my "Island" and "3OE" wallpapers. It would be greatly appreciated if some of you could help me out and rate them for me.
...and if any of you had some ratings wiped out during the last server problem, post here with the names of the skins so I and others can rate them.
...and if any of you had some ratings wiped out during the last server problem, post here with the names of the skins so I and others can rate them.
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DesignCaddy
Reply #22 Friday, January 9, 2004 10:06 AM
Reply #22 Friday, January 9, 2004 10:06 AM
i saw "post here to get rated." i want to be rated 
hehehe. if i suck at skinning (and i don't think i do..), i want to know that, so i stop taking up server space.
hehehe. if i suck at skinning (and i don't think i do..), i want to know that, so i stop taking up server space.
BoXXi
Reply #23 Friday, January 9, 2004 10:37 AM
Reply #23 Friday, January 9, 2004 10:37 AM
None of this discussion is new to people who have been around a while. There have been many, many debates on the rating system, and a general concurrence has never been reached.
Suffice to say, the current rating system IS under serious review, and WILL change in the not too distant future, along with many other changes and improvements to the site.
Stay tuned.......
Apocalypse_67
Reply #26 Friday, January 9, 2004 3:57 PM
Reply #26 Friday, January 9, 2004 3:57 PM
This is exactly what hurts the rating system or rather how it makes rating unfair.
I read a lot of "If I like it I rate it high, if I don’t like it I rate it low" This way of rating is what has damage the entire system.
Ratings should be given by judgment on the work and not by personal taste. The fact that a design is not appealing to a particular person doesn’t mean it's not appealing to others. Ratings should be awarded based on the characteristic of the design and its functions.
There are a lot of designs that I don’t personally like and that I wont download or use but the author did a good job on it and I will rate it because it's a good design and not because 'I don’t like it'
I’m more than sure that a vast amount of ratings have been given out to designs taking nothing else under consideration but personal taste or how the rater feels about the author, in other words "if I like the author I rate it high, if I hate the author I rate it low"
I hope the changes they are making for a better rating system can solve many of these issues.
I read a lot of "If I like it I rate it high, if I don’t like it I rate it low" This way of rating is what has damage the entire system.
Ratings should be given by judgment on the work and not by personal taste. The fact that a design is not appealing to a particular person doesn’t mean it's not appealing to others. Ratings should be awarded based on the characteristic of the design and its functions.
There are a lot of designs that I don’t personally like and that I wont download or use but the author did a good job on it and I will rate it because it's a good design and not because 'I don’t like it'
I’m more than sure that a vast amount of ratings have been given out to designs taking nothing else under consideration but personal taste or how the rater feels about the author, in other words "if I like the author I rate it high, if I hate the author I rate it low"
I hope the changes they are making for a better rating system can solve many of these issues.
eieio
Reply #27 Friday, January 9, 2004 5:14 PM
I'll second that!
Reply #27 Friday, January 9, 2004 5:14 PM
| #26 by Scribe Apocalypse_67 - 1/9/2004 3:57:33 PM |
I'll second that!
Koasati
Reply #28 Friday, January 9, 2004 5:52 PM
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Reply #28 Friday, January 9, 2004 5:52 PM
| There are a lot of designs that I don’t personally like and that I wont download or use but the author did a good job on it |
You shouldn't rate anything you haven't downloaded, and used. You really shouldn't be rating the screenshot. Ratings should be based on the look and function. How would know the author did a good job, if you don't use it?
and another thing (since it's been brought to my attention recently)
You shouldn't rate to bring the average to where you think it should be. If you've used a skin that is rated 8, and you think it should be a 6, then 6 is what you should rate it. Not a 4 to bring it down to 6.
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Apocalypse_67
Reply #29 Friday, January 9, 2004 6:45 PM
Koasati, that comment was aimed at wallapapers designs which you dont have to download in order to see their function.
Skins for applications are a total different story.
This is another interesting point that should be exercise at all times.
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Reply #29 Friday, January 9, 2004 6:45 PM
| There are a lot of designs that I don’t personally like and that I wont download or use but the author did a good job on it |
Koasati, that comment was aimed at wallapapers designs which you dont have to download in order to see their function.
Skins for applications are a total different story.
| If you've used a skin that is rated 8, and you think it should be a 6, then 6 is what you should rate it. Not a 4 to bring it down to 6. |
This is another interesting point that should be exercise at all times.
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Koasati
Reply #30 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:25 PM
Reply #30 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:25 PM
Yes, I meant to come back and say that this doesn't necessarily apply to walls,
(although you do have to download it to view it 
) but you beat me to it. 
) but you beat me to it. 
ack! can't spell..............
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Apocalypse_67
Reply #31 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:35 PM
Reply #31 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:35 PM
You should ask Jafo for a copy of his spell checker
Koasati
Reply #32 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:42 PM
Reply #32 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:42 PM
I have a copy, but it only works with Australian text. 
IPlural
Reply #33 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:51 PM
don't forget to prime it with a pint first!
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Reply #33 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:51 PM
don't forget to prime it with a pint first!
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Fuzzy Logic
Reply #34 Friday, January 9, 2004 8:47 PM
Thanks. I got scalped for saying this. It really annoyed me that 'senior' members were rating stuff 'to make up for others'. All skins should be rated on merit, nothing else. I do not apologise for saying anyone, whatever their title, should have their rating privilege removed for 'adjusting' ratings.
Reply #34 Friday, January 9, 2004 8:47 PM
| If you've used a skin that is rated 8, and you think it should be a 6, then 6 is what you should rate it. Not a 4 to bring it down to 6. |
Thanks. I got scalped for saying this. It really annoyed me that 'senior' members were rating stuff 'to make up for others'. All skins should be rated on merit, nothing else. I do not apologise for saying anyone, whatever their title, should have their rating privilege removed for 'adjusting' ratings.
macrobaye
Reply #36 Friday, January 9, 2004 11:18 PM
Reply #36 Friday, January 9, 2004 11:18 PM
IMHO, I think one should not look at the appeal of the wall to that particular user, but to how much work was involved, it's function, it's design, etc. If I see something that was a simple cut-and-paste, or a screenshot (in the screenshots section) then I won't rate it very high, even if it may look good. Personally, I think screenshots are cheap ways to boost one's rating. But aside from that, ratings should be based both on quality of work, and of effort. Just my two cents.
kongit
Reply #37 Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:40 AM
Reply #37 Saturday, January 10, 2004 1:40 AM
Ratings are your personal decision, just like voting you can rate however you want. the trick is to find a way to decipher all the different interpretations of the ratings into some meaningful figure.
At least this is the way I have seen thus far. Now I go by the comments to get an accurate rating, if the person has a thought of mind to post a comment then it is worth reading. If I see a lot of praise in the comments, I think that peice might be good and I will probably download it, however if the peice has few comments or the comments aren't praise then there is less of a chance for me to download it, unless I'm bored of course.
At least this is the way I have seen thus far. Now I go by the comments to get an accurate rating, if the person has a thought of mind to post a comment then it is worth reading. If I see a lot of praise in the comments, I think that peice might be good and I will probably download it, however if the peice has few comments or the comments aren't praise then there is less of a chance for me to download it, unless I'm bored of course.
Apocalypse_67
Reply #39 Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:02 AM
The rating that you award to a skin or design should be based on your own perception on the skin/design's attributes and functions and not on the opinions or amount of comments by others.
Reply #39 Saturday, January 10, 2004 9:02 AM
| Now I go by the comments to get an accurate rating |
The rating that you award to a skin or design should be based on your own perception on the skin/design's attributes and functions and not on the opinions or amount of comments by others.
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Reply #21 Friday, January 9, 2004 7:00 AM