What the hell?...
Monday, January 5, 2004 by milktm | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
what the hell is going on with this site? Not only have I had to register for the third time in a couple of months (second time in a matter of days) because every time I try to log in, for some reason my email is "not on the db", but now, I can't even check out new skins without downloading a piece of software for which I have to pay?... Hello! Sorry, but if WinCustomize becomes that painful to use, from something really good only weeks ago, then I'll get skins from somewhere else. I don't want to have to pay for a software just to download the odd WMP skin. This is ridiculous.
Sorry about the whinge, but this site has been driving me mad for the last 20mins trying to log in, register, find something, and at the end, I have nothing... >
Sorry about the whinge, but this site has been driving me mad for the last 20mins trying to log in, register, find something, and at the end, I have nothing... >
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s45tr
Reply #62 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 4:54 AM
Reply #62 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 4:54 AM
Good I like when people mad at me 
To charge me 
there is ALWAYS a way to get stuffs free pal!
To charge me 
there is ALWAYS a way to get stuffs free pal!
wombat_1
Reply #64 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:08 AM
Great, go and get it Troll. >
Reply #64 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:08 AM
| D:D:D there is ALWAYS a way to get stuffs free pal |
Great, go and get it Troll. >
DesignCaddy
Reply #65 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 9:38 AM
Reply #65 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 9:38 AM
unfortionately i think if the boards were paying customers only, it would put a damper on people subscribing. the boards give you a community and if people don't have that extra incentive to look forward to, they'd just download their max and move on.
bakerstreet
Reply #66 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:52 AM
Reply #66 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 10:52 AM
Sometimes I feel really disagreeable and argumentative, but all I have to do is look in on the board here and I feel better. I think that if there is a global catastrophe, and civilization as we know it falls, it is safe to assume that somewhere someone will be flaming Kona via smoke signals or jungle drums.
Styl-X Design
Reply #67 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:07 AM
Reply #67 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:07 AM
KG, or anyother admin, wouldn't it be possible to have a shared IP BAN list. So all the sites in the 'skinning zone' will be adding IP numbers. Like that people who missbehave will not only get banned at 1 site but at ALL sites.
Orion
Reply #68 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:17 AM
Reply #68 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:17 AM
Styl...all it would take is one unethical admin/mod and the whole thing falls apart.
I for one would support the idea of only subscribers/owners being able to post on the board.
I for one would support the idea of only subscribers/owners being able to post on the board.
Erk.
Reply #69 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:20 AM
Reply #69 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:20 AM
I believe Styl, that on dialup access, you are assigned a different IP address each time you connect,
then theres the problem of public access 'puters, like in libraries etc.
While a good idea... I don't think it would be possible.
Unfortunately for the admins/mods here... it's all they can do to ban a troublemaker each time one rears its ugly head in here
Oops spelled ya name wrong Styl... sorry
[Message Edited]
then theres the problem of public access 'puters, like in libraries etc.
While a good idea... I don't think it would be possible.
Unfortunately for the admins/mods here... it's all they can do to ban a troublemaker each time one rears its ugly head in here
Oops spelled ya name wrong Styl... sorry
[Message Edited]
Styl-X Design
Reply #70 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:27 AM Wreckless, that guy did indeed sound terribly familair 
Reply #70 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:27 AM
Wreckless, that guy did indeed sound terribly familair 
kongit
Reply #71 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:36 AM
Reply #71 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:36 AM
The only thing I find wrong with complete bannage is that people can change. They could come back and get a different nick and a new name, but they cause no problems and contribute to the site. But oneday they accidently mess up and someone finds out who they really are. So should the guy get exiled again for his past actions, ro should he stick around because it looks like he learned his ways. While this doesn't apply to some of the trolls whose only purpose in life is to give other people a hard time and keep coming back, there might be some individuals who learned to be good. So would a lifetime ban be morally correct. It would assume the person could not change, and unless the person did a deed so horrible they should be allowed to come back someday. I would treat exilation like prison. If a person gets caught they go to court (here the admins), the court decides the punishment, a set number of months to years to life would be applied and if they ever caught that person breaking parole they would get even stricter.
just my ideas.
just my ideas.
SelfExiled
Reply #72 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:28 PM
Reply #72 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 2:28 PM
Orion, sorry but I must disagree with you. If only subscribers or owners were allowed to post, where would we get our fun? 
Also, the MSBD is a good place for newbies to get answers to legitmate software questions from the more experienced users in the community.
Also, the MSBD is a good place for newbies to get answers to legitmate software questions from the more experienced users in the community.
Apocalypse_67
Reply #73 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:26 PM
That's right and here at WC you also get the "Exiled" title for free too
Reply #73 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 7:26 PM
| there is ALWAYS a way to get stuffs free pal! |
That's right and here at WC you also get the "Exiled" title for free too
Jafo
Reply #75 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:19 PM
Reply #75 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:19 PM
Travis.....people rarely change at all....though they say they will.
If a person is a pain in the butt now, it's safe to say he'll be a pain in the butt in the future - sooner or later, irrespective of what wondrous changes occur in between.
What we DO hope however is that an initial 'pain' may be accidental, being unfamiliar with accepted conduct, and behaviour will be tempered to suit.
If that fails to eventuate then it's time to speak softly and carry a big stick....
kongit
Reply #76 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:27 PM
Reply #76 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:27 PM
well its always better to hope somebody will get better. I'd just always carry a big stick. But then these decisions aren't up to me, and I really don't care because I don't plan on getting myself exiled or demoted to visitor anytime soon. 
kona0197
Reply #77 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:30 PM
I resent that statement Paul >
Reply #77 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:30 PM
| people rarely change at all....though they say they will. |
I resent that statement Paul >
Tiggz
Reply #78 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:52 PM
That may well be true, but it's also true to say that if you don't give a person freedom to change, if you contain them in that conceptual box in your own mind, they are even less likely to change. Often people become stereotyped by those around them, which can effect how they are treated, which can go on to perpetuate or reinforce certain traits.
Reply #78 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:52 PM
| people rarely change at all....though they say they will. If a person is a pain in the butt now, it's safe to say he'll be a pain in the butt in the future |
That may well be true, but it's also true to say that if you don't give a person freedom to change, if you contain them in that conceptual box in your own mind, they are even less likely to change. Often people become stereotyped by those around them, which can effect how they are treated, which can go on to perpetuate or reinforce certain traits.
kona0197
Reply #79 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:53 PM
well said!
Reply #79 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:53 PM
| Often people become stereotyped by those around them, which can effect how they are treated, which can go on to perpetuate or reinforce certain traits. |
well said!
Jafo
Reply #80 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:58 PM
Reply #80 Wednesday, January 7, 2004 11:58 PM
Tiggz....exactly, though it's important to note that it's not the Admins here who are propagating the stereotyping but the general populace who see the 'problems' as targets or playthings....aggravating the issue.
Many are not given the opportunity to adjust their attitude as their past errors are flung back at them to continue the 'sport'.
Not all of the on-going 'issues' are the fault of the targets, but the fault of those with the 'guns'...
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Reply #61 Tuesday, January 6, 2004 8:16 PM