What's with this approval thing???!!

Tuesday, December 30, 2003 by Spydragon | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I posted a theme 3 days ago and it is still waiting for approval!

I really dont understand this approval thing! I meeen first are the people of WC all knowing to the point they know all the stuff that is on the net to be able to know if it was original work!
I say the easiest way is to just let people upload their work and then if someone notices policy infrigement they just push a button to report it!
I started submitting a while ago into wincustomize and once I submited some stuff I made about the Manga Akira, after it got rejected for whatever not being my work reason (although it was my work!) I was so pissed I deleted all my submissions except one (because it was being downloaded by friends) and until now I submitted nothing new...

I allways thought it was not enough to subscribe and just download stuff, it is good to give some of one work too, but this is becoming really anoying!
So I say stop this approval thing! Let the people here be responsible adults!
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wombat_1
Reply #21 Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:24 AM
Well, anyway I guess you guys have your reasons but I still think that there is some stuff being denied unfairly.


"Life" is not "Fair" ... and "S**t" happens
Unless I have read the gudelines incorrectly, "Wallpapers" are meant to be a "Background" image, not a dominant feature that overwhelms one's desktop.
JerryHat
Reply #22 Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:25 AM
Have many children been molested via a wallpaper or icon?

As for the emails, they're just words and the words of idiots. I'm well over 21 and you're welcome to send anything - but there's not a lot I haven't seen and doubt if you could change my mind.

regards, Jerry



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Stumpy
Reply #23 Saturday, February 21, 2004 6:44 AM
The children are molested by creeps that view the disgusting Wallpapers and Videos on the internet, and WC will not allow anything on it's site that can insight a creep into doing anything that would harm children.

God forbid anything should happen to your children due to a creep viewing indecent material found on WC's website, and getting excited over that material.

If you have no concern for children whatsoever, then I pity you.




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JerryHat
Reply #24 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:07 AM
WC is bound by law to disallow the display of certain types of things - which I won't even mention - anything else outside of those things is deeply unlikely to provoke anyone to do anything to a child. The fact that the Admins must deny/remove such things wasn't worth mentioning.

Jerry



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Jafo
Reply #25 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:07 AM
Stumpy.....'incite'....Spell checker
JerryHat
Reply #26 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:10 AM
Can we bring this back to the real world?

Basically it's discourteous not to send denial emails to people with a genuine and fair-minded wish to get their work seen, citing the actions of a few idiots as an excuse.

regards, Jerry



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Stumpy
Reply #27 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:15 AM
Jafo



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Jafo
Reply #28 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:20 AM

Basically it's discourteous not to send denial emails to people with a genuine and fair-minded wish to get their work seen, citing the actions of a few idiots as an excuse.

Rubbish.

It's discourteous to assault voluntary staff via email with verbal invective that would make a Marine blush.

It's not warranted and won't be tolerated.

Since some Admins were [justifiably] disheartened by this abuse by 'a few' it was determined that no-one would receive that 'courtesy email of rejection' unless it was a specific case.

The type of people who feel inclined to react this way are not particularly encouraged to participate.  Some have been removed permanently.

We are currently pushing towards 1 million members and it is quite natural to expect 'a few idiots' [as you call them] will be attracted to the party.

As always, the few can spoil it for the many...

JerryHat
Reply #29 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:26 AM
We'll have to disagree then won't we.

I have nothing more to say on the matter.

regards, Jerry



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IPlural
Reply #30 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:36 AM
Stumpy
Reply #31 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:38 AM
JerryHat

You have just done what Jafo was talking about, I got that one, imagine how many the Admins would get, if you had your way <




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Stumpy
Reply #32 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:40 AM
And if all of you are wondering about my previous post.

I'll leave it to JerryHat to explain



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JerryHat
Reply #33 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:47 AM
Stumpy> if you're talking about the email, you seem to be suggesting I was in some way foul mouthed or in some way assaulting you. This is disengenuous.

For this reason I present my entire email:

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Subject: Offence taken
Stumpy> If you have no concern for children whatsoever, then I pity you.

I find that particularly offensive, but have no interest in starting a flame-war in the WC forums.

Jerry
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I also find it offensive to make such a suggestion in veiled terms.

Jerry



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Stumpy
Reply #34 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:49 AM
I stand by what I said, regardless.




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Stumpy
Reply #35 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:59 AM
And if you can't say it openly and have to send me emails, Tough, i'll bounce them back >



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Jafo
Reply #36 Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:59 AM

The role of a site's Admins is to assist in maintaining a standard of behaviour...that the users here have come to expect/appreciate.

In part that requires a degree of 'censorship', preferably before the act rather than after....for good reason.

To maintain a standard of decorum that enables the site members to feel 'comfortable' with their children equally enjoying the site, without fear of confronting language or images is what we do.

Mostly we get it right.

It's really simple.  Anyone who has an issue with this achieved standard is free to create a site themselves and administer it to their heart's content, at whatever standard of

just supported when it effects them negatively.
  that suits them.

Here we'll get it right with a little pre-emption. [Saves on cleaners]...

IPlural
Reply #37 Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:02 AM
You know, I purposely do not speak of the past when here because I do not care to remember it. I also do not wish to prompt others who might have lived through even one iota of the things that happened to me as a child into view because of my actions.

It's called respect and it *IS* because I care about others shown by my actions and not just words...

People can bounce around the edges of it and not go into any detail, but each and every single time I read about *abused children* I want to scream. Frankly speaking unless you've lived with it (a survivor, loved one of a survivor) or are part of the process of healing it, your only guessing.

There *are* standards for the site and if someone can not wrap their mind around them and accept them at least while on this site I personally do not see a reason for them to continue using it.

It's simple really...


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Stumpy
Reply #38 Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:04 AM
Nice post IP , shame some people will disregard it



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JerryHat
Reply #39 Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:11 AM
Jafo, I agree entirely. I'm not totally sure why what I've said is being taken badly.

Maybe my language was inflamatory, by being poorly written or explained, or I assumed a certain level of what you might call 'unsaid agreement' which isn't there. I don't advocate that this site should be full of adult content (certainly nothing harder than the wallpaper on your current desktop) and I find the lack of swearing quite refreshing.

As far as the 'shielded' comment goes, I defend it with the following that I just wrote elsewhere - the 'you' mentioned is obviously not you:

"I've never been of the mind that children should be shielded from life"

Oh come on, you're falling into the easy online discussion trap of taking a reasonable comment and quibbling around the edges to make something of it.

Did I mention that children should be protected from the bits of life that involve bullets being aimed at them, or famine killing them, or paedophiles abusing them? I didn't? Well does that mean I'm advocating those things?

Of course not. Those things should not need be said in a reasonable forum.

regards, Jerry




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Jafo
Reply #40 Saturday, February 21, 2004 8:27 AM

Jerry.....the problem we all have on this here net thingie is we are 'pan-dimensional beings' only visible via the words typed on this board.

It is IMPERATIVE that as much as is humanly possible, one thinks clearly about what one types in order to eliminate 'assumptions' and 'inferences' from the mind/s of the audience.

The adage of 'think twice - type once' paraphrased from 'measure twice - cut once' is a good one....

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