Where are Grayelks walls

Thursday, November 20, 2003 by WOM | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I was looking for Grayelk's walls and none of them are up. Does anyone know why? I wasn't through downloading some of his walls.



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Sugaree
Reply #1 Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:40 PM
I dunno..but I think he might have gotten pissed off about a few nasty e-mails he recieved about his work not really being his
WOM
Reply #2 Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:45 PM
Hope not, didn't get all the ones I wanted.



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I.R. Brainiac
Reply #3 Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:59 PM
I dont know,I thought some of them were really good.What made anyone think they werent' his?
Jafo
Reply #4 Friday, November 21, 2003 12:02 AM
I'm looking into it...
Sugaree
Reply #5 Friday, November 21, 2003 12:14 AM
Paul, talk to KG...I read on one of his walls she had talked to GrayElk on the phone and could vouch for his work.

heh Im so nosie, I pretty know everything
Jafo
Reply #6 Friday, November 21, 2003 12:18 AM

Yes...saw that...and am following up on it....

I'm not impressed with flaming and unsubstantiated allegation....so I'll not let it ride...

Sugaree
Reply #7 Friday, November 21, 2003 12:21 AM
Let us know what you find out, tiger
White_Moth
Reply #8 Friday, November 21, 2003 9:15 AM
Well, this is simply awful, I was looking forward to more of Grayelks work, I think he or she (sorry), was about to show us something really special.



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KarmaGirl
Reply #9 Friday, November 21, 2003 9:47 AM

They were removed after Grayelk called me and requested that they be removed.

I am very saddened by this. He is a Native American Indian who is disabled.  He has also been in the armed forces defending our country.  One of his works hangs in the Smithsonian. He works with the different tribes trying to introduce this stuff to the kids and get them interested in computers. He doesn't use his real name on here because he didn't want to be that public.

All it took was one jerk emailing him to make him remove his stuff.  His uploads were all his, but he didn't want to deal with the hassle.  It was too much to deal with.  I can understand his point.  If I was being emailed threats from a so-called "attorney" saying that they were going to investigate your copyright infringement, I'd pull my stuff, too.  Luckily, Grayelk has an attorney, so if the world is a just place, maybe they can get this guy for harassment.

I would really hate for us to have to make all email addresses private.  But if this continues, we may have no choice.  It really ticks me off that somebody would do this.  We will call this jerk a "visitor" now

IPlural
Reply #10 Friday, November 21, 2003 9:55 AM
> I hope GreyElk nails the worm.... >

was it that person who came in wanting to know who knew of greyelk?

If so I wonder what one could pull up from the net on them?
White_Moth
Reply #11 Friday, November 21, 2003 9:57 AM
This is a very sad thing indeed, because of one idiot, we all suffer.

Hope Grayelk decides to return soon, he sounds like a someone we all could learn from.



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WOM
Reply #12 Friday, November 21, 2003 9:58 AM
Thanks KarmaGirl for the update. Its a shame that people are quick to accuse without getting all the facts. All one had to do is email an admin with their concerns and this wouldn't have happened. Now I wished I'd have gotten his email address the other day but was busy and figured I could get it later.Next time I'll make the time to do what I was going to do.



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SoliD_NuTs
Reply #13 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:01 AM
when i come to wincustomize it feels like a nother world to kind to be true
Erk.
Reply #14 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:05 AM
Just my two bob's worth, but surely admins have Grayelks email.
Hopefully someone there can entice him back, after this has been sorted out?
Perhaps they have only been "temporarily" removed (by Grayelk) till it is. Certainly hope so.
Perhaps Grayelk is following this thread, and will see the wonderful support he has.



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--Gabriel
Reply #15 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:07 AM
I never even got to see them... I hope the guy who flammed him gets banned.
IPlural
Reply #16 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:27 AM
The hardest thing about art, is that the possibilities of having someone you have never known, whos work you have never seen, in a country half way around the world, could very well come up with a similar work and you wouldn't even know it....

Russ's Robotic Scorpian for instance. I have a Design Graphics Magazine where this person won awards with such a critter with some changes to it that is not the same work. But very similar at the same time. So much so I was going to email Russ and let him know to check it out. But after looking at them I find that the only real connection between them is the vision and idea, the presentation is totally different even though both are 3D renderings and Robotic Scrop's...

I honestly do hope that GeryElk nails this person down and get's this straightened out because he is a fantastic artist and his desire to share his art is something I think should never be stopped because of someone else. That should only be his choice from the heart as is the choice to share...

and it roasts my euw-euw's that someone would go about doing this in the first place...
kona0197
Reply #17 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:33 AM
IP = I love that scorp - check my SS!

I hope greyelk comes back. he emailed me not to long ago and i replied that i was looking forward to his work.
KarmaGirl
Reply #18 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:52 AM
I have also emailed Grayelk to let him know about this thread.  Maybe he can "feel the love"
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #19 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:55 AM
I hope he comes back.Why split over one lousy email?Its not like the jerk could do anything to him ,with or without a lawyer.Should have just let the guy waste his time and his money,that would teach him.
.Please come on back Grayelk.
Zodiaq~
Reply #20 Friday, November 21, 2003 10:57 AM
This is pretty sad...I had conversed with Thomas via email for several days a while back trying to help him get his work done in digital format to upload.

He apparently has several of his Oil Paintings on display in a museum in Washington State. I never doubted for a second that this man wasn't who he claimed.

It's a real shame when a comment or two can drive someone away, the author just needs to be aware that they are a very small monority.

I'm sure it's the person in the 'Other' thread asking who "Grayelk" is that has been harassing him. I hope he get's things worked out.

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