Micheal Jackson..Your thoughts?
Wednesday, November 19, 2003 by digital_k | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Well I am reading on CNN that MJ will be turning himself in tomorow morning(Thursday). I have a relative who's a Sheriff's Deputy and he tells me the raid had to be done because of very substantial evidence,no guessing games at all. Maybe he is guilty, maybe he was the last time. Interesting to see how it will play out. What do you think?
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kona0197
Reply #122 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:01 PM
Reply #122 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:01 PM
never will about his music sucking.
that part I might... I hope he is guilty and gets jail time.
he is a fraek and deserves to met "bubba"
| I do not care if he is guilty or not. |
that part I might... I hope he is guilty and gets jail time.
he is a fraek and deserves to met "bubba"
Tech-Cat
Reply #123 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:05 PM
You actually hope he is guilty because you dislike him for being different from you? I hope that if he did what he is accused of doing, he is found guilty. I hope that if he did not do what he is accused of doing, he is found not guilty. If being weird is a crime then you and I should be in prison along with MJ.
Reply #123 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:05 PM
| I hope he is guilty and gets jail time.he is a fraek and deserves to met "bubba" |
You actually hope he is guilty because you dislike him for being different from you? I hope that if he did what he is accused of doing, he is found guilty. I hope that if he did not do what he is accused of doing, he is found not guilty. If being weird is a crime then you and I should be in prison along with MJ.
kona0197
Reply #124 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:09 PM
heloo! everyone knows he is a freak and different than us. He is not normal. Never will be.
Guilty or not, his music carrer is finished because of all of this.
And I still think his music sucks. I have never owned a MJ album and never will.
In fact, if you bring a MJ album it will get broke along with any country albums as well.
Reply #124 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:09 PM
| You actually hope he is guilty because you dislike him for being different from you? |
heloo! everyone knows he is a freak and different than us. He is not normal. Never will be.
Guilty or not, his music carrer is finished because of all of this.
And I still think his music sucks. I have never owned a MJ album and never will.
In fact, if you bring a MJ album it will get broke along with any country albums as well.
kona0197
Reply #125 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:09 PM
If you bring them into my house... >
Reply #125 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:09 PM
| In fact, if you bring a MJ album it will get broke along with any country albums as well. |
If you bring them into my house... >
Tech-Cat
Reply #126 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:12 PM
Everyone is different.
Reply #126 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:12 PM
| heloo! everyone knows he is a freak and different than us. |
Everyone is different.
kona0197
Reply #127 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:14 PM
Reply #127 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:14 PM
read the thread again Jesse from the beginning... I am not the only one who thinks he is abnormal and a freak of nature...
Tech-Cat
Reply #128 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:18 PM
Reply #128 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:18 PM
Yes he is abnormal and a freak, but being so is not a crime.
kona0197
Reply #129 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:19 PM
Reply #129 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:19 PM
no but child molesting is against the law. The autoritys have LOTS of evidence.
Tech-Cat
Reply #130 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:23 PM
Reply #130 Saturday, November 22, 2003 8:23 PM
Maybe they do, but I will have to see what they have before I draw a conclusion from it.
Minion_Bob73
Reply #131 Sunday, November 23, 2003 5:50 AM
Reply #131 Sunday, November 23, 2003 5:50 AM
Yes, child molesting is against the law and a terrible thing to do (thats putting it mildly). But so is rape, murder and a million other things. People are accused of these things everyday and alot of times there is tons of evidence. But you also never see some of these people serve a day in jail. Then they turn around and do it again. Alot of celebrities have been accused of crimes but how often is there any serious punishment for them. If a regular guy who was just a normal class citizen was accused of the same thing they would probably throw him in jail for life or try to execute him and be done with it. This will most likely never happen to MJ or any celebrity for that matter because of their deep pockets. But that shouldn't mean they are above the law, no one should be. The sad part is that all of us, me included are the ones that basically have made them what they are cause we buy their music and go to there movies or sporting events or whatever it is that they do that makes them what we consider a celebrity.
I hope that for the childs sake that if MJ did molest him he is tried, convicted and fried. No one should be allowed to get away with this. Especially someone that has been accused of it so many times. I don't know maybe I am just getting a just little too mad about all this. I guess it just really bothers me that so many people are upset by this and voice how they feel but when Kobe Bryant was accused of raping a woman there wasn't alot of things said. Not alot of people or I should say not alot that I have heard, are ready to string him up and make him be punished. I know he has not had his complete trial yet either but neither has MJ and the outcry is far worse. Anyway, this is just one womans take on the situation. Hope I haven't offended anyone by giving it.
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I hope that for the childs sake that if MJ did molest him he is tried, convicted and fried. No one should be allowed to get away with this. Especially someone that has been accused of it so many times. I don't know maybe I am just getting a just little too mad about all this. I guess it just really bothers me that so many people are upset by this and voice how they feel but when Kobe Bryant was accused of raping a woman there wasn't alot of things said. Not alot of people or I should say not alot that I have heard, are ready to string him up and make him be punished. I know he has not had his complete trial yet either but neither has MJ and the outcry is far worse. Anyway, this is just one womans take on the situation. Hope I haven't offended anyone by giving it.
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IPlural
Reply #132 Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:57 AM
Reply #132 Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:57 AM
The Jackson 5 and MJ solo have some really gret songs in my opinion and I listen to some seriously hard core New Age, Trance, Industrial, Punk, Rock, Indi and Alternative. It isn't about personalities for me when it comes to music, it's the music hands down and how it makes me feel even whn not listening to it, but only hearing it in my thoughts.
But I still will stop on the station when scanning through them when I hear the song "Ben".
There are freaks of all kinds, if MJ did this, then he shouldn't be allowed to live (my opinion) if he didn't do this then people need to just forget he exists if they don't like him. Because he sure as hell doesn't know or care that they exist, when was the last time he came to you home, or called you on the phone?
But I still will stop on the station when scanning through them when I hear the song "Ben".
There are freaks of all kinds, if MJ did this, then he shouldn't be allowed to live (my opinion) if he didn't do this then people need to just forget he exists if they don't like him. Because he sure as hell doesn't know or care that they exist, when was the last time he came to you home, or called you on the phone?
Yearout
Reply #133 Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:59 PM
Reply #133 Sunday, November 23, 2003 1:59 PM
Welcome to the rumour mill. I know alot of familys that would love the chance to take, lie, anyway they could just to get money from him. I think it's funny how reading through here some people just know he did it. Yet they don't know the guy, really have no idea what the police found if anything. Why not let the PROS get this one lol.
bakerstreet
Reply #134 Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:49 PM
Reply #134 Sunday, November 23, 2003 2:49 PM
"that part I might... I hope he is guilty and gets jail time. he is a fraek and deserves to met "bubba"
Hoping he is guilty is, in turn, hoping a child was molested. Why not just wish he killed someone? > I find it hard to accept the 'means', even if the 'ends' happens to be locking him away from kids. Granted, one can hope he is *found* guilty *if* he committed the crime, but conveying such a small nuance of perspective would require talking out of something besides your ass.
I think if he is found guilty, the previous parents that made 25 million keeping their mouths shut owe it to all the subsequent kids that were molested, and should be seen as parties to the crime. All they did was enable him to continue doing what they did to their own child.
Hoping he is guilty is, in turn, hoping a child was molested. Why not just wish he killed someone? >
I find it hard to accept the 'means', even if the 'ends' happens to be locking him away from kids. Granted, one can hope he is *found* guilty *if* he committed the crime, but conveying such a small nuance of perspective would require talking out of something besides your ass.I think if he is found guilty, the previous parents that made 25 million keeping their mouths shut owe it to all the subsequent kids that were molested, and should be seen as parties to the crime. All they did was enable him to continue doing what they did to their own child.
bakerstreet
Reply #136 Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:00 PM
Reply #136 Sunday, November 23, 2003 3:00 PM
yearout: I think it is funny how we have a constant stream of folks who pretend that 'truth' is somehow obtainable from the outcome of a trial. Me, I think such folks make their mind up just like the rest of us, but it sounds really 'elevated' to be the devil's advocate. Humans prejudge things for their own safety, and in this case for the safety of their children.
After the whole mess ten years ago many people let the outcome decide what was 'truth', and let their kids go to Neverland. If it ends the same this time, many more will as well. I think that it is a testament to 'common sense' that others wouldn't.
There are too many innocent people found guilty, and guilty people found innocent, to allow the US Court system to decide on whether to put your kids in danger, or donate money to MK's 'ranch' by buying his music.
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After the whole mess ten years ago many people let the outcome decide what was 'truth', and let their kids go to Neverland. If it ends the same this time, many more will as well. I think that it is a testament to 'common sense' that others wouldn't.
There are too many innocent people found guilty, and guilty people found innocent, to allow the US Court system to decide on whether to put your kids in danger, or donate money to MK's 'ranch' by buying his music.
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IPlural
Reply #137 Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:28 PM
without a doubt...
Reply #137 Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:28 PM
| I think if he is found guilty, the previous parents that made 25 million keeping their mouths shut owe it to all the subsequent kids that were molested, and should be seen as parties to the crime. All they did was enable him to continue doing what they did to their own child. |
without a doubt...
SelfExiled
Reply #138 Monday, November 24, 2003 2:24 AM
Reply #138 Monday, November 24, 2003 2:24 AM
All this controversy will definitely hurt MJ's career. His whole life from a child was abnormal, and abusive from what I've seen and read. It's no surprise that his adult life is this way. All of his fame and money came with a heavy price.
wombat_1
Reply #139 Monday, November 24, 2003 2:25 AM
How very Christian!
Reply #139 Monday, November 24, 2003 2:25 AM
| I hope he is guilty and gets jail time.he is a fraek and deserves to met "bubba" |
How very Christian!
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Reply #121 Saturday, November 22, 2003 7:55 PM