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Thursday, November 3, 2022 by RedneckDude | Discussion: Community
Hey gamers! I have a gamer question.
Ok, I have a graphics card that requires 2 x 8 pin cables. I only have one 8 pin on my PSU. So I bought a cable that splits one 8 pin into two 8 pins. It works fine until I play a game and then it shuts down my PC after just a few minutes.
So, I ran a graphics card stresser, Unigine Superposition Benchmark which also shut down my PC.
Is it because of the splitter? Do I need a PSU with 2x 8pins on it?
BTW, stressing the CPU causes no issues.
Reply #2 Friday, November 4, 2022 9:51 PM
I'll throw some things out that may or may not be food for thought. I'm not up on these things though.
Graphics cards are notorious pigs on the 12v rail.
I know there is some practical limit to how much amperage to draw from a single power supply lead (including any splits). I Googled it just now and for a 4pin molex I see 5amps on each the +5v and the 12v rails, 25watts on the +5v and 60watts on the 12v. This is what I stumbled across in case you want to ponder it:
Can't guarantee how accurate that is but it's a place to start. Seems like splitting a single lead and plugging both into the graphics card could easily be inadequate. If you have an adapter you could use with a different supply lead, and plug your 4pin in directly, that might be worth a shot.
Another thing is, a power supply with lots of wattage can still be too weak on the 12v rail for a given card. The sticker on the power supply should tell you how many amps/watts it has available on each voltage.
Other thing is, some power supplies often used to have the 12v rail split to accommodate the higher draws ("Dual Rails"). I don't know if those are still around. I avoided them like the plague, I don't know how a person knows which leads are on which rails. If you've got one of those though you would want to use a power supply lead from each of the 2 rails.
Good hunting.
Reply #3 Friday, November 4, 2022 10:07 PM
And now I see you said "8pin". [Sigh] I love my brain.
He's got 8pins listed on that link too, so have a look to see which you're using, and same principle in terms of splitting.
Reply #4 Saturday, November 5, 2022 12:52 AM
The reason a card might have 2 cables is to increase power consumption [capacity]. The splitter simply halves what is needed to each so simply won't work at 'capacity'...instead the PSU will trip and shutdown totally...![]()
Reply #5 Saturday, November 5, 2022 9:16 AM
Looking at the loads those 8pin connectors are designed for, if you do look for an adaptor for another line, it would need to be a beefy line. You wouldn't want to try to put an 8pin adaptor for this on a 4pin molex or a sata line for example, if they even make them.
Reply #6 Sunday, November 6, 2022 6:25 AM
The reason a card might have 2 cables is to increase power consumption [capacity]. The splitter simply halves what is needed to each so simply won't work at 'capacity'...instead the PSU will trip and shutdown totally...
Reply #7 Sunday, November 6, 2022 7:59 AM
Pretty much what I thought was happening. I guess I need a new/better PSU.
Not necessarily...you need to check what voltage is being wanted by the 2 sockets on the GPU and see if they can be accommodated by a suitable adapter for an existing 'spare' lead from the PSU.
Probably worth a Google at least...![]()
Reply #11 Monday, November 7, 2022 7:46 PM
A GPU in a PCIe slot with 1 8 pin cable maxes out at 225 watt. Check what your card's max draw is.... it will be more since it's built with 2 cables. The second one would have about another 150 or so...![]()
Specs on whatever your card is for max consumption will be something like 300 watt ...so if you max out you'll shut down the MoBo ...![]()
I may have to teach you how to Google...![]()
Reply #12 Monday, November 7, 2022 10:21 PM
Thank you Paul.
I'll hop the big pond sometime and you can teach me.
Reply #15 Tuesday, November 8, 2022 3:34 PM
Hmmm, well, for shits and giggles, I tried something.
My PSU has an 8 pin and a 6 pin. I used an 8 pin extension on the 6 pin along with the 8 pin, and played the game with no issues.
But since I already ordered the new PSU, I'll go ahead and use it when it gets here.
Reply #16 Tuesday, November 8, 2022 4:18 PM
Nope. Ran FurMark and it immediately shut off.
Reply #18 Friday, November 11, 2022 10:53 PM
One of my old machines has one of the 6pin leads coming from the PSU via an adapter from a standard 4 pin Molex ...so it's not an uncommon issue re part compatibility...![]()
Reply #19 Saturday, November 12, 2022 6:19 AM
I'm not good with amps/watts/voltage. I wasn't sure if molex put out enough power.
Plus new PSU is RGB which fits the build.
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Reply #1 Friday, November 4, 2022 7:56 PM
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