WB11/Skin studio 11 Request & Issues

Saturday, October 15, 2022 by SimplexDesigns | Discussion: WindowBlinds

Skin studio is a mess, it really needs an overhaul this time around. Actually organize it better and update the tutorial section so that new people looking into creating themes can actually know whats what. Its super dated and feels like it has not been touched since the windows vista era of skinning.

Im looking into updating one of my themes for windows 11. Currently working on making a dark style for it and I cant seem to find where the Toolbar in file explorer is pulling the texture from.  I would have thought you guys would of added a new section in skin studio for it but it just seems to be doing as stated above.

Secondly, where do I change the black text where it says folders, drives etc... It seems to only change white when I select dark mode when applying the theme. This causes certain elements of my theme to darken and should not be doing so. When I asked about it, a stardock person says its working as intended and that I have to define dark mode stuff. I dont see anything in skin studio about it, only substyles which I have already tested and get this outcome. In the substyle management section of skin studio, there should be a "is dark mode?" button to define it. The dark mode causes more than just the titlebar to darken. The titlebar title text darkens along with some elements on the taskbar such as the notification button. It should not darken stuff if that option should be checkmarked in the substyle. Ruins parts of the theme.

Last thing, is the bottom statusbar no longer skinnable in wb11? It does not seem to be loading from the statusbars background section. Seems to be a solid color now.

 

 

(Normal mode)

 

(Dark mode applied in WB11)

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DaveRI
Reply #21 Monday, October 17, 2022 4:01 PM

I prefer to run Windows in Dark Mode too.  I guess that shows just how "not crazy" I am about the darkened frames.   

Neil Banfield
Reply #22 Monday, October 17, 2022 4:36 PM

RedneckDude


Quoting DaveRI,






Quoting RedneckDude,



I use dark mode but it changes the color of the frames



Ya I'm not crazy about that either, I run the skins in WB's Light setting.

My issue with that is I run Windows in dark mode, and light mode in WB config changes that.

 

This is because every existing skin is designed for light mode windows.

RedneckDude
Reply #23 Monday, October 17, 2022 5:23 PM

Neil Banfield


Quoting RedneckDude,






Quoting DaveRI,











Quoting RedneckDude,







I use dark mode but it changes the color of the frames




Ya I'm not crazy about that either, I run the skins in WB's Light setting.


My issue with that is I run Windows in dark mode, and light mode in WB config changes that.

 



This is because every existing skin is designed for light mode windows.

And that sucks.  I hate light mode.

It was fine before you added that function.  I have already had 2 master skinners complain that my using dark mode ruins their skins.

 

RedneckDude
Reply #24 Monday, October 17, 2022 5:25 PM

 

Just sayin.

RedneckDude
Reply #25 Monday, October 17, 2022 5:28 PM

I guess what I'm saying is that I always use dark mode in windows settings, and never had this problem.  Discoloration of frames and buttons due to your added "function".

 

neone6
Reply #26 Monday, October 17, 2022 9:19 PM

Hm... From what I hear... -Ditch "Dark mode"     

naroon1
Reply #27 Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:25 AM

I also prefer Dark Modes in pretty much all my Desktop customising, wonder how this will effect me, all my skins when we reach a Final WB 11.

PhoenixRising1
Reply #28 Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:33 PM

I can see that oldnewexplorer is a popular choice early on in windowblinds 11 use. However, for the other half of people that enjoy explorer tabs this means windowblinds will never resonate with them. This is because explorer tabs requires a different form of artwork to look good and if artists all chose to only make their work by old standards then we will be left with a bunch of artwork that looks awful with explorer tabs in use.

Personally, I would like to see some streamlining to make it easy to edit the parts that could transition a command bar 7 or ribbon menu to a command bar 11 / explorer tabs menu easier. This way artists that favor the command bar 7 could still throw in a explorer tab version of their work with little fuss AND / OR a more amateur user could fix areas to match the explorer tabs better.

don5318
Reply #29 Wednesday, October 19, 2022 5:46 PM

It seems to me, it depends on wether SKS (an updated version) will support the Win 11 ribbon/tab style or not, I don't think SKS 10 does, but, I could be wrong too.     

PhoenixRising1
Reply #30 Wednesday, October 19, 2022 6:09 PM

don5318

It seems to me, it depends on wether SKS (an updated version) will support the Win 11 ribbon/tab style or not, I don't think SKS 10 does, but, I could be wrong too.     

skin studio 11 beta is out now

SimplexDesigns
Reply #31 Wednesday, October 19, 2022 7:50 PM

Neil Banfield

The dark text on the This PC bit on the right may be a bug as that should have flipped to white in that situation so we need to look into that.

For the statusbar, they are indeed just colours on Windows 11, but you can control this from the Statusbar section in SkinStudio under the extra settings tab.

Given your first screenshot I do need to mention something which is you should not be making a new skin or substyle for dark mode, you just need to edit an existing skin and also define the dark mode images (on the image tab) and colours on the text tabs.  You also have some extra colours in the system colours page.

The top area on your window comes from one of a few places depending on the skin.  Most modern skins would pull that from the window glass area images under per pixel frames.  Note there is a light glass area 11 section which is specifically for light mode.  This is VERY important if you are making a light mode skin on Win11 where you would traditionally have darker titlebar + glass areas as Win11 will use black text on that toolbar so we have to have an alternative image.  

If your skin is older and lacks these sections, then the rebar background is typically used.

 

Status bar color remains unchanged no matter what color I choose. Also seems to show the wrong name in Skin studio. Displays as dark mode for the option but on the right tooltip shows light mode.

Vampothika
Reply #32 Monday, February 6, 2023 9:42 PM

PhoenixRising1


 



skin studio 11 beta is out now

 

I don't see it..... link please??    

basj
Reply #33 Monday, February 6, 2023 10:25 PM

Vampothika

I don't see it..... link please??

That was mentioned Oct 2022 so, I  believe, unless unknown to me, what ever listed on your account product page should be the latest release version.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

PhoenixRising1
Reply #34 Tuesday, February 7, 2023 12:51 AM

Vampothika


Quoting PhoenixRising1,





 



skin studio 11 beta is out now



 

I don't see it..... link please??    

https://forums.stardock.com/516096/page/1/#replies

Skin studio download link is in the 2nd post along with the skin studio changelog.

Vampothika
Reply #35 Tuesday, February 7, 2023 1:11 AM

Thank you

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