I think I should stop
Thursday, November 13, 2003 by Z06Leonhart | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I started skinning back in september. I did 4 wb skins so far. But now I feel like I didn't do any of them at all. I feel like I've been stealing other people ideas(buttons, colors, design). I didn't come up with anything new. I can't do anything beside making circles and squares. All of my skins have some kind of glass style that I borrowed from someone else. A quote from Apocalypes web "a good artist always creates... never duplicates". I think it's time for me to remove my skins and go back to be a regular user.
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goodmorphing
Reply #2 Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:23 PM
Reply #2 Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:23 PM
Maybe, if you need, take a break. Go for hikes, swim, surf, get away from the computer and have some fun. But don't destroy your work.
And if I am too late, or not convincing enough... it is easy to restore your stuff. Just write the admins.
And if I am too late, or not convincing enough... it is easy to restore your stuff. Just write the admins.
Z06Leonhart
Reply #3 Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:51 PM
Reply #3 Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:51 PM
Thanks Goodmorphing, I'm not giving up. But I won't upload another skin until I can make a skin that I can be proud of. And I'm not destroying my work, I believe out of the 50k download some still have my work on their computer.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #4 Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:17 PM
Reply #4 Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:17 PM
Stick around,your work is becoming exceptional.Dare to be different. 
Apocalypse_67
Reply #5 Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:47 PM
Reply #5 Thursday, November 13, 2003 4:47 PM
Leonhart, look at skinning as you would look at fashion. In the 70's bellbottoms and butterfly collars was all that every designer made, that doesnt mean they were stealing ideas from eachother.
Skining is the same thing. Glass, metal and plastic style buttons and bars are what people like. There is nothing wrong with borrowing ideas as long as you dont copy the original.
I learn to skin by looking at the work of great artists such as Treetog, Adni, Mormegil, DuoPixel... just to name a few. And I have borrow ideas from the style they use. I just try to experiment further on what I see.
Im sure everyone here has design something that came as an idea from watching someone else's work.
Dont give up, just keep working on your skins and you'll see that you will create a style of your own.
Skining is the same thing. Glass, metal and plastic style buttons and bars are what people like. There is nothing wrong with borrowing ideas as long as you dont copy the original.
I learn to skin by looking at the work of great artists such as Treetog, Adni, Mormegil, DuoPixel... just to name a few. And I have borrow ideas from the style they use. I just try to experiment further on what I see.
Im sure everyone here has design something that came as an idea from watching someone else's work.
Dont give up, just keep working on your skins and you'll see that you will create a style of your own.
IPlural
Reply #6 Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:36 PM
Reply #6 Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:36 PM
Get wild with pencil and paper and throw something together. Pick out what you like which will integrate well and just kind of let the mojo flow
It like, you've a bunch of apple style lime green orb buttons with triangles on them depicting minimize, expand, X to close and so on. But how many lime green glass triangles with orbs on the with symbols on those? Or say maybe the location of the org and size, or the direction of the triangle with an org on it just for ascetics?
same with rectangles and squares and stuff
paper and pencil dude
I've plenty of ideas just this really big wall between me and finishing anything
Apoc, IR and goodmorphing got the right of it I am thinking
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It like, you've a bunch of apple style lime green orb buttons with triangles on them depicting minimize, expand, X to close and so on. But how many lime green glass triangles with orbs on the with symbols on those? Or say maybe the location of the org and size, or the direction of the triangle with an org on it just for ascetics?
same with rectangles and squares and stuff
paper and pencil dude
I've plenty of ideas just this really big wall between me and finishing anything
Apoc, IR and goodmorphing got the right of it I am thinking
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Z06Leonhart
Reply #7 Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:25 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:25 PM
Thanks IR
Yea you are right Apocalypse_67, same for me
I can put things on paper but I dont know how to draw on computer
Yea you are right Apocalypse_67, same for me
| I learn to skin by looking at the work of great artists such as Treetog, Adni, Mormegil, DuoPixel... |
I can put things on paper but I dont know how to draw on computer
Keila
Reply #8 Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:35 PM
Reply #8 Thursday, November 13, 2003 6:35 PM
Listen to what everyone has said so far Z06Leonhart.
Hey, and get your WindowBlinds back on site where they belong.
Hey, and get your WindowBlinds back on site where they belong.
Jafo
Reply #11 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:00 PM
Reply #11 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:00 PM
Z06....what sections are your works in? [makes it easier for me]
Koasati
Reply #13 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:15 PM
Reply #13 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:15 PM
Keep in mind, that there's only so much you can do with a WB skin, and still have it functional. Please yourself, and you've won the battle.
Jafo
Reply #14 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:19 PM
Reply #14 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:19 PM
Yes....skin for your OWN enjoyment....that is what it is all about.
Some will eventually go the commercial road and have commissions....eg. Pixtudio or Skins Factory, etc., but most primarily do it for F.U.N.....
Z06Leonhart
Reply #15 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:25 PM
Reply #15 Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:25 PM
I think all the skin for WB is good enough. 
opps Thank you very much, yup it's fun.
opps Thank you very much, yup it's fun.
Erk.
Reply #18 Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:49 PM
Reply #18 Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:49 PM
Well supported there admins and skinners..... you could've lost one who might go on to even greater things.
Hang in there Leonhart, time and patience is the key. I've got a fair bit of stuff, (mainly art & backgrounds) saved on this comp, but not one thing is displayed anywhere yet. When I think I can match or get anywhere near some of the talent here, I MIGHT just upload some.
FYI... you are definitely waaay better than me!
Stay with it man, triumph will ensue.....
Hang in there Leonhart, time and patience is the key. I've got a fair bit of stuff, (mainly art & backgrounds) saved on this comp, but not one thing is displayed anywhere yet. When I think I can match or get anywhere near some of the talent here, I MIGHT just upload some.
FYI... you are definitely waaay better than me!
Stay with it man, triumph will ensue.....
Apocalypse_67
Reply #19 Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:56 PM
Reply #19 Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:56 PM
It's good to read that you are sticking to skinning and nice to see your work back in the library.
Jafo said it best. Skin for your self. Sharing your work is your decition and our enjoyment.
I think I'll follow Pixstudio's steps and go commercial
Jafo said it best. Skin for your self. Sharing your work is your decition and our enjoyment.
I think I'll follow Pixstudio's steps and go commercial
Z06Leonhart
Reply #20 Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:10 PM
Reply #20 Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:10 PM
Thanks Wrecklesserk, that's very kind of you. I don't want my skill to be better than anyone .I just want it to get better everyday from now until the time I'm so old like most of the skinners in here . They are cool though . Well I also think that you should upload some of your work here. Comments by other are very helpful.
. They are cool though . Well I also think that you should upload some of your work here. Comments by other are very helpful.Please login to comment and/or vote for this skin.
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Reply #1 Thursday, November 13, 2003 3:20 PM
It's like running a marathon. You hit a wall, and you can either just give up or stare it down and become really great.