The Evil Nasty Bios Flash (Part 1)
Thursday, October 16, 2003 by Phoon | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
So... you want to be a "hip" kind of computer geek and have the latest and greatest bios update for your motherboard. Being what I consider, fairly competent in such matters, you go to the manufacturers web site, you READ CAREFULLY, and download the lates flash for your particular motherboard.
You proceed with the excruciating task of formatting the floppy..(after you find one buried in the mass of rubble which vaguely resembles a horizontal disaster zone), copy the flash utility and the bios update. You answer the $64 question of "Do you want to backup your existing bios?" with a resounding yes.. your !@#$% right I wanna back it up.
Well, all purrs along with splendid efficiency. You achieve the desired message of successfull upgrade.
You proceed to power off the system. Eagarly, with chronic heart palpitations, you depress the power button to re-activate your life's blood ......
Now, did I forget to mention that it may not be a good idea to jump from a version 1001.A to a version 1009, and totaly bypass the available 1006 version?
Needless to say, the result of the entire process resulted in a black screen of death. This is a dreaded black and empty screen which produces no results what-so-ever. No boot screen, no anything at all except a massive inverse dialation of ones eyballs, an extreme puckering of most orifaces that the body contains, and a hollowed out feeling in the pit of your stomach.
Guess what I will be shopping for tomorrow!!!
The moral of the story: Don't flash your bios unless something just isn't working properly!
You proceed with the excruciating task of formatting the floppy..(after you find one buried in the mass of rubble which vaguely resembles a horizontal disaster zone), copy the flash utility and the bios update. You answer the $64 question of "Do you want to backup your existing bios?" with a resounding yes.. your !@#$% right I wanna back it up.
Well, all purrs along with splendid efficiency. You achieve the desired message of successfull upgrade.
You proceed to power off the system. Eagarly, with chronic heart palpitations, you depress the power button to re-activate your life's blood ......
Now, did I forget to mention that it may not be a good idea to jump from a version 1001.A to a version 1009, and totaly bypass the available 1006 version?
Needless to say, the result of the entire process resulted in a black screen of death. This is a dreaded black and empty screen which produces no results what-so-ever. No boot screen, no anything at all except a massive inverse dialation of ones eyballs, an extreme puckering of most orifaces that the body contains, and a hollowed out feeling in the pit of your stomach.
Guess what I will be shopping for tomorrow!!!
The moral of the story: Don't flash your bios unless something just isn't working properly!
CerebroJD
Reply #3 Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:16 AM
Excellent use of vocabulary!
Bummer about the BIOS though.
Reply #3 Thursday, October 16, 2003 11:16 AM
| !@#$% |
Excellent use of vocabulary!
Bummer about the BIOS though.
digital_trucker
Reply #4 Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:49 PM
Reply #4 Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:49 PM
Yeah, verily, those who would traverse the Valley of the BIOS Flash must be stout of heart and strong of faith.
(It helps to have an MSI motherboard like mine...their flash utility works flawlessly).
Kinda strange why they ask you if you want to back up your BIOS, isn't it? If your BIOS gets borked up, there's absolutely NOTHING to be done about it...except to replace the BIOS chip in the motherboard.
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(It helps to have an MSI motherboard like mine...their flash utility works flawlessly).
Kinda strange why they ask you if you want to back up your BIOS, isn't it? If your BIOS gets borked up, there's absolutely NOTHING to be done about it...except to replace the BIOS chip in the motherboard.
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azdruid
Reply #5 Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:32 PM
Reply #5 Thursday, October 16, 2003 4:32 PM
See, this is why I WANTED a Gigabyte motherboard in my system. All GB boards have this feature called Dual BIOS, which means if you screw up the first one by overclocking or flashing, the board will switch to the second one. Handy.
Phoon
Reply #6 Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:21 PM
Reply #6 Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:21 PM
All is well at last. I purchased a used Abit board with 2 raid channels on it.
So at last, the orifaces return to normal state, and the body begins to function properly...
However, XP gets pretty @#$% ( for you Çërêb®øJÐ ) when you install a new motherboard.
Seems it found my NIC on a different address than was used before, but refused to actually remove the old one, nor did it want to release the IP address I had originaly assigned to it.
This kind of thing will get under my skin and make my teeth itch !! So, now I am in the process of ye ole' "format c:\"
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So at last, the orifaces return to normal state, and the body begins to function properly...
However, XP gets pretty @#$% ( for you Çërêb®øJÐ ) when you install a new motherboard.
Seems it found my NIC on a different address than was used before, but refused to actually remove the old one, nor did it want to release the IP address I had originaly assigned to it.
This kind of thing will get under my skin and make my teeth itch !! So, now I am in the process of ye ole' "format c:\"
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Hus
Reply #7 Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:26 PM
Reply #7 Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:26 PM
I love reading your PC troubles Phoon, you put it so eloquently. "except a massive inverse dialation of ones eyballs" 
It definately sucks that you got these problems
I flashed a BIOS once, but then I got a ticket for indecent exposure. 
It definately sucks that you got these problems
I flashed a BIOS once, but then I got a ticket for indecent exposure. 
Chris TH
Reply #8 Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:47 PM
Reply #8 Thursday, October 16, 2003 9:47 PM
2 words: EPROM Programmer
Buy, beg, borrow, steal one and someone who knows how to drive one.
I'm lucky enough to have one at work. For those who don't know what it's for... it can be used to backup the entire bios chip to a file (before flashing) by physically removing the chip from the mobo and inserting into the programmer and performing a read.
Then do the flash upgrade as per your downloaded instructions.
If it goes t*ts up, take the chip out of the mobo again, erase it in the programmer and reburn the saved file you made earlier.
These flash bioses are a godsend for that (eraseable
). Previously you had to get a new, blank version of your bios chip whcih meant time & expense because they were only one-time-progammable.
Buy, beg, borrow, steal one and someone who knows how to drive one.
I'm lucky enough to have one at work. For those who don't know what it's for... it can be used to backup the entire bios chip to a file (before flashing) by physically removing the chip from the mobo and inserting into the programmer and performing a read.
Then do the flash upgrade as per your downloaded instructions.
If it goes t*ts up, take the chip out of the mobo again, erase it in the programmer and reburn the saved file you made earlier.
These flash bioses are a godsend for that (eraseable
). Previously you had to get a new, blank version of your bios chip whcih meant time & expense because they were only one-time-progammable.
Sugaree
Reply #9 Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:06 PM
Reply #9 Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:06 PM
I was going to flash my bios once...then, thought better of it.
Thank Goodness!
Maybe I'll do it when I need a new pc....Oh! look honey, It's broke
Thank Goodness!
Maybe I'll do it when I need a new pc....Oh! look honey, It's broke
joetheblow
Reply #10 Friday, October 17, 2003 3:07 AM
Reply #10 Friday, October 17, 2003 3:07 AM
Well, Phoon, help me out here... upgrading your BIOS:
Why do it?
What effect does it have on the OS?
Thanks!
-- Computer Illiterate in NY
Why do it?
What effect does it have on the OS?
Thanks!
-- Computer Illiterate in NY
yrag
Reply #11 Friday, October 17, 2003 3:28 AM
Reply #11 Friday, October 17, 2003 3:28 AM
Joe - here's a good rule of thumb when it comes to bios...if there's nothing wrong with your system (i.e. motherboard), do not go looking for a bios update. It will enhance nothing. If. however, you were to install a new video card, memory,etc as an upgrade, the motherboard might not support it in the original bios, then a bios update might. In any event, all bios updates are inclusive, so you have to look at each bios update to see what that bios contains. Only flash the version you need. If it doesn't state a fix for any component or problem you have, stay away from them.
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Phoon
Reply #12 Friday, October 17, 2003 3:59 AM
Reply #12 Friday, October 17, 2003 3:59 AM
Alas..don't you hate those "wild hairs" that sprout up sometime..
Weaksid
Reply #13 Friday, October 17, 2003 8:55 AM
Reply #13 Friday, October 17, 2003 8:55 AM
I was told by my professor at ITT that alot of websites now have a way that it checks your bios and updates it from the site. But you already tried to flash it so I'm not sure if that would help you now. I've flashed mine 3 times already manually. There is a way that you could get it back to maybe working. See if you can get into your setup in your CMOS at least. Then what you do is try clicking on either set to best performance or default settings. I had to do this when I messed up mine once. It fixed mine. And still updated the chip. This is a suggestion to maybe prevent you from buying a new MB.
Weaksid
Reply #14 Friday, October 17, 2003 8:56 AM
Reply #14 Friday, October 17, 2003 8:56 AM
O', that website update I think only works on new MBs also. So, if you have a older one then I don't think it would work.
Weaksid
Reply #15 Friday, October 17, 2003 8:59 AM
Reply #15 Friday, October 17, 2003 8:59 AM
I reread your message again. Try taking out the battery or see if there is a jumper on your MB and try resetting the CMOS also. Your Bios does have some ways to getting rid of a bad update. Did you check to see if the website had info on what to do if you flashed it wrong?
Weaksid
Reply #16 Friday, October 17, 2003 9:01 AM
Reply #16 Friday, October 17, 2003 9:01 AM
Weaksid just thought about it, maybe I should see if there is a new update for mine.
Weaksid thinks again a little harder. Hmm, my board might be done with updates, it's too dang old.
Weaksid thinks again a little harder. Hmm, my board might be done with updates, it's too dang old.
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Reply #1 Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:26 AM