Terragen Newbie
Friday, October 10, 2003 by azdruid | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hey everyone...Terragen is the most wonderful program in the world not developed by Stardock. If the druids had this, they wouldn't have needed to build this "Stonehenge". 
Anyway, attached here is my first decently rendered image. It's called Ancient Mars. Yeah, stupid name. Now, I want to know what you think. Comments, criticism, all of it, tell me! Would you use it? Because this is my first piece, please don't expect it to be "Apocalypse_67 level". Just want to know how I can improve. 
Anyway, attached here is my first decently rendered image. It's called Ancient Mars. Yeah, stupid name. Now, I want to know what you think. Comments, criticism, all of it, tell me! Would you use it? Because this is my first piece, please don't expect it to be "Apocalypse_67 level". Just want to know how I can improve. 
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azdruid
Reply #2 Friday, October 10, 2003 10:44 PM
Reply #2 Friday, October 10, 2003 10:44 PM
Sorry for the mix up guys...I'm getting used to it. THIS image should work. What do you think?
EventHorizon
Reply #3 Friday, October 10, 2003 11:23 PM
Reply #3 Friday, October 10, 2003 11:23 PM
Definately needs improvement...
1: The land... Its not generated. Solely using the elevation tool wont get you the results you want. Theres also not enough of it.
2: The lighting... Its too dark, and mars isnt quite that red...its more of a rust.
3: Clouds... Too fuzzy, and look as though theyve been 'painted on.'
4: JPEG... Quality is quite low. MSpaint cannot improve the quality of JPEG's beyond its preset value. Use a different prog (Or if you arent using paint...Change the qulaity.)
Try some of the links at Terragens home page: http://planetside.co.uk especially Luc Bianco's page to see what can be accomplished when all goes well. Also take a look at Xerraire's page at http://www.Xerraire.com
I also have a few here at WC. Search the wallpaper library for: EventHorizon.
1: The land... Its not generated. Solely using the elevation tool wont get you the results you want. Theres also not enough of it.
2: The lighting... Its too dark, and mars isnt quite that red...its more of a rust.
3: Clouds... Too fuzzy, and look as though theyve been 'painted on.'
4: JPEG... Quality is quite low. MSpaint cannot improve the quality of JPEG's beyond its preset value. Use a different prog (Or if you arent using paint...Change the qulaity.)
Try some of the links at Terragens home page: http://planetside.co.uk especially Luc Bianco's page to see what can be accomplished when all goes well. Also take a look at Xerraire's page at http://www.Xerraire.com
I also have a few here at WC. Search the wallpaper library for: EventHorizon.
EventHorizon
Reply #4 Friday, October 10, 2003 11:26 PM
Reply #4 Friday, October 10, 2003 11:26 PM
Not quite sure if its "the most wonderful proggy not developed by stardock" but its fun. Beats the pants of bryce for realism, but isnt as user friendly or powerful. Also, its still in development.
EventHorizon
Reply #6 Friday, October 10, 2003 11:32 PM
Reply #6 Friday, October 10, 2003 11:32 PM
Heres a fairly decent tutorial to get you started. http://caroluk2.crosswinds.net/terratut/
Try a google search for Terragen Tutorials if you need more of 'em.
Try a google search for Terragen Tutorials if you need more of 'em.
azdruid
Reply #7 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:16 AM
Reply #7 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:16 AM
Thanks EventHorizon. Talk about frank appraisal. But that's what I wanted. I will indeed look at those tutorials. About the JPEG quality...I know how it works, I use PSP. I used a high compression ratio (I know it looks ugly) becuase I have a "molasses-modem". Thank you again for your help.
azdruid
Reply #8 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:18 AM
Reply #8 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:18 AM
Speaking of which...I have looked for a site that sells Bryce 5, and have yet to find one...Do you know a retailer?
EventHorizon
Reply #9 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:44 AM
Reply #9 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:44 AM
Its made by Corel. Look at: http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Products/productInfo&id=1042551234521
Xerraire
Reply #10 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:20 PM
Reply #10 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:20 PM
Xen
Also there is a yahoo group that you can learn a lot from, I know I have from them!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terragen/
Also there is a yahoo group that you can learn a lot from, I know I have from them!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/terragen/
Xerraire
Reply #11 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:21 PM
Reply #11 Saturday, October 11, 2003 12:21 PM
oh!
and here are mine to look at if you wish!
http://www.xerraire.com/terragens/
and here are mine to look at if you wish!
http://www.xerraire.com/terragens/
azdruid
Reply #12 Saturday, October 11, 2003 1:44 PM
Reply #12 Saturday, October 11, 2003 1:44 PM
That link was just what I needed, EventHorizon. Thank you, Xerraire. I'll look into those Yahoo groups and get some perspective from your artwork. Thanks again, guys.
EventHorizon
Reply #14 Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:58 PM
Reply #14 Saturday, October 11, 2003 2:58 PM
Xerraire: Wow, you've done a really nice job with some of those. I especially like the 'S Series.' One question...How do you get that 'eroded' look?
Xerraire
Reply #15 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:05 PM
Reply #15 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:05 PM
Event, I use a lot of DEM files, which are terrains of actual places, perhaps that is what you noticed?
EventHorizon
Reply #16 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:07 PM
Reply #16 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:07 PM
Ahh ok. Wasnt sure If you imported 'em into Bryce (Or anyother prog that has an 'erode' tool) or used DEM's.
Xerraire
Reply #17 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:11 PM
Reply #17 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:11 PM
Oh, and thanks by the way.
There are plans in the works to make a better sculpting tool for terragen,
that sounds exciting.
There are plans in the works to make a better sculpting tool for terragen,
that sounds exciting.
EventHorizon
Reply #18 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:13 PM
Reply #18 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:13 PM
Will that be in the new version (0.9) ir somewhere along the way after that?
Xerraire
Reply #20 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:27 PM
Reply #20 Saturday, October 11, 2003 3:27 PM
The timeline regarding the terrain generator/sculpting tool, as well as vegetation
and other details can be found here » http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/future.shtml
and other details can be found here » http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/future.shtml
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Reply #1 Friday, October 10, 2003 10:18 PM