Pinned start menus in DesktopX?
Sunday, October 5, 2003 by SubtleGrace | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
The quicklaunch is one thing, but is it at all possible to list the "pinned" start menu items in a DesktopX widget? I'd really like to be able to do that.
Phoon
Reply #2 Tuesday, October 7, 2003 7:20 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, October 7, 2003 7:20 PM
If anyone will know, Martin should. However, I "googled" and "MSKB'd" my eyes sore tonight looking into this. The closest I came was this..
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Why is there no programmatic access to the Start menu pin list?We learned our lesson the hard way.
In Windows 95, we gave programmatic access to the Start menu "Fast items" list - the items that appear at the top of the Start menu above the Programs list. This area was meant for the user to customize with their favorite links, but programs quickly saw the opportunity and spammed themselves into it every chance they got.
In IE, we gave programmatic access to the Favorites menu, and once again, programs spammed themselves into it.
In Windows XP we intentionally did not give programmatic access to the bold list of items at the top of the Start menu (the "pin list"). The pin list is for users to put their favorite icons. It is not the place for a program to decide unilaterally, "I am so cool. I am your favorite icon. I just know it. So I'll put myself there because, well, I'm so cool."
Because we knew that the moment we let people mess with the pin list, everybody would install themselves into it and it would become meaningless (and annoying).
What's particularly galling are the programs that, as part of their install, decide that they are so cool they want to be everywhere to make sure you don't miss out on the coolest most amazing program ever written in the history of mankind, so they go into the Start menu, into the Fast items, onto the desktop, into the Quick Launch, onto your Favorites, take over as your default autoplay handler, and even hang out as an icon next to the clock on the taskbar just in case you somehow missed all those other places - and each time you run them, they go and recreate those icons and settings in case you "accidentally lost them".
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Why is there no programmatic access to the Start menu pin list?We learned our lesson the hard way.
In Windows 95, we gave programmatic access to the Start menu "Fast items" list - the items that appear at the top of the Start menu above the Programs list. This area was meant for the user to customize with their favorite links, but programs quickly saw the opportunity and spammed themselves into it every chance they got.
In IE, we gave programmatic access to the Favorites menu, and once again, programs spammed themselves into it.
In Windows XP we intentionally did not give programmatic access to the bold list of items at the top of the Start menu (the "pin list"). The pin list is for users to put their favorite icons. It is not the place for a program to decide unilaterally, "I am so cool. I am your favorite icon. I just know it. So I'll put myself there because, well, I'm so cool."
Because we knew that the moment we let people mess with the pin list, everybody would install themselves into it and it would become meaningless (and annoying).
What's particularly galling are the programs that, as part of their install, decide that they are so cool they want to be everywhere to make sure you don't miss out on the coolest most amazing program ever written in the history of mankind, so they go into the Start menu, into the Fast items, onto the desktop, into the Quick Launch, onto your Favorites, take over as your default autoplay handler, and even hang out as an icon next to the clock on the taskbar just in case you somehow missed all those other places - and each time you run them, they go and recreate those icons and settings in case you "accidentally lost them".
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Reply #3 Tuesday, October 7, 2003 7:42 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, October 7, 2003 7:42 PM
Phoon, that reminds me of AOL. 
I installed it into mom's computer, ( She won't change to something else then ) and it was placed everywhere.
I installed it into mom's computer, ( She won't change to something else then ) and it was placed everywhere.
Phoon
Reply #4 Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:49 AM
Reply #4 Wednesday, October 8, 2003 8:49 AM
solution_design,
They probaly didn't want to give access to it for the reasons stated in #3.
They probaly didn't want to give access to it for the reasons stated in #3.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, October 7, 2003 12:57 PM