New submission, need comments before I submit... Take it easy on me please...LOL

Wednesday, September 17, 2003 by naitsirch79 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Ok I have created another wall paper and this is the theme...

It is called American Omega, I am sure you can see why. I made this purposely dark because all of the cool things you can use for bright icons and the what not. Like a cool wally for a space theme or something. I am open to suggestions to improve this and make it as best I can... Now I do like it currently and am only looking for a couple critiques to make it better, not change it....Originally the sun was completly black with a blue ora, but I decided to give it some depth and ligthing inside of it...

I hope you like, ,, PS7 Wacom and mouse... this is not the full size...



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Jafo
Reply #21 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:52 PM

Lens flares are considered 'taboo' because they do not exist in nature but are an affectation/result of an optical camera lens.

Point and click filter-use is most commonly the crutch of the person new to digital aet manipulation/creation....a case of 'wow, look at this trick' which quickly becomes tired and boring.

Put simply, 'frenzies' of ill-considered filter use will be rejected.....matters not from whom it originates....


Jafo
Reply #22 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:53 PM
shmoopy.....yes....1972...watercolour on board....

Sugaree
Reply #23 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:54 PM
Yes...he did draw/paint that

I'm late, big brother is on.. I can't believe I'm hooked on these stupid shows



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Jafo
Reply #24 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:00 PM
naitsirch79...it's fully re-worked in PSP6 without any filters.....just painting tools....mostly a push-brush. Click on my name and browse the few walls I bothered to put up. Most of my work is with nudes which do not have a place here...but they are on Deviantart.com.....though those are Conte pencil...and again manipulated via PSP....

naitsirch79
Reply #25 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:01 PM
6000 plugin??? what plugin is that much???

filters are not nessecarily plugins. I will tell you this. For whatever your doing there is a filter that can make it better. I am sorry to say it but true elite digital artist now how to use their plugins masterfully.... Now for straight paintings NO, I can see where you wouldn't use them... You are trying to emulate true realistic art. Not something that most likely can't be done with a real live paintbrush...


but what is that plugin I want to check it out...

naitsirch79
Reply #26 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:02 PM
when you say manipulated on PSP what do you mean exactly?

Jafo
Reply #27 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:04 PM
Anything created with a filter can be reproduced via traditional painting processes/methods. A competent artist will not 'need' to resort to filters/plugins...but when they do they will be very wary about its proper 'control', like any other tool in their arsenal of competence...

goodmorphing
Reply #28 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:05 PM
goodmorphing bows out.... this has been a long hard day.... tedious, one might say.

naitsirch79
Reply #29 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:06 PM
I can respect that, it is pretty much what I believe... You have to master your filters like a brush...

I.R. Brainiac
Reply #30 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:06 PM
Lens flares are cool!This looks like space sperm penetrating the Van Allen radiation belt.Awesome concept!With a little practice I think you will get pretty good.I was certainly no better when i started.I abused filters worse than you by far.

Jafo
Reply #31 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:09 PM

I mean repainted by hand.....with a mouse....adjusting detail and accuracy that was not as 'simple' in watercolour......the digital medium makes error correction so triflingly easy.

Before claiming the validity/brilliance of one's own work, take a quick look at someone like Nuvem [in particular]...who is a master of traditional media as well as modern 'digital' work/s.....it'll be a sobering experience...and again, Deviantart.com has an extensive selection....sculpture, photo, and digital....


Angel_Wings
Reply #32 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:12 PM
I already knew you were an artist, a REAL artist like me mum...but WOW...PAUL! WOW!

naitsirch79
Reply #33 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:13 PM
i don't know whether to laugh, cry or take that as a comment or bashing... I think I will laugh because you called it a space sperm penetrating the Van allen radiation belt... Trully inspiring none the less. But, I didn't abuse filters.

here is the filters I used...

1. the sperm like smoke on the astoroid balls, in hindsight guess I should have blurred them down or erased some of the tail...
2. Gausian blur, but that is a must especially when mixing colors...
3. The lens flare of course...
4. The flames on the balls and edge of the bottom scene


I am tired that is all I can think of...

My water effect is not a filter but an effect so you can't cound that.

Jafo
Reply #34 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:17 PM

As it is it will be rejected....and the problem arises that by posting it here on the board it is effectively a way to bypass the moderation process that all others must contend with.

I cannot say I'm all in favour of this at all.


Sugaree
Reply #35 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:18 PM
it's all filters, give it up...we can tell

Angel_Wings
Reply #36 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:22 PM
In the meantime...China and me can smother Paul with kisses...

...all in the name of 'art' of course...hehe

Angel_Wings implores China to put her "watercolor" lipstick on...hehe

naitsirch79
Reply #37 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:26 PM
No it isn't. I just told you what parts were filters.

Now if you said layers... I would totally agree with you because I do use a hell load of layers. But geez I told you I only used 5 filters... China your kids are cute by the way.. are those your kids? you must be in a mood today...

I am not putting this here to bypass the moderation process, I am putting this here to get feedback from citz and people to let me know what I can improve on.

See that is what I don't like about some of the feedback, not all but some, they just say some crack comment without saying... Hey i see what your idea is with the black sun and astroids, why dont' you do this and it should improve...

Now that would help immensly see what I mean????

Sugaree
Reply #38 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:31 PM
Purrrr... got my red stuff on Smoooooch

messybuu
Reply #39 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:32 PM
It looks too much like filters. Personally, I figure that if something won't look good without filters, it probably won't look much better with filters.



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Sugaree
Reply #40 Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:36 PM
naitsirch79.... It does not appeal to me, It has no meaning. I would not ware it.... sorry

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