Ok I poured my heart into this wallpaper and....

Monday, September 15, 2003 by naitsirch79 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I put up a wallpaper the other day, and I am assuming that it didn't make it because it is not in my uploads anymore. Although I dissagree with this. I would at least like to know whether it got denied or not. It is sort of just in limbo. Now, IMO it is pretty nice work and would be an excellent wallpaper for someone.

This new submission I know is good so I would like to know exactly how this works and why my other submission might not have gotten accepted. I put many hours into my work so I can't keep making wallpaper designs if they aren't going to be used...



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horiz0n
Reply #41 Monday, September 15, 2003 9:57 PM
Thats what I mean by constructive critisism, some people take it as insults, some understand the purpose. Most people can't take truthful critiques, especially when it's directed "at" them. Most people are just satisfied patting each other on the back and saying good job no matter when it looks like. Either way, he asked what we thought, we told him.
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horiz0n
Reply #42 Monday, September 15, 2003 10:02 PM
though to hit both sides of it, the pumpkin over all looks good and I like the way you did your signature because the "tribal" on the sides reminds me of vines, which goes well with what the picture is trying to do.

Other than that I don't see how anyone could take my critique as being insulting, yet not giving a second thought to him saying jairo lacks artistic skills....did people forget who jairo is, just look to the right under the #1 spot on top authors.

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Zodiaq~
Reply #43 Monday, September 15, 2003 10:36 PM
Blah...I'm with China on this one too
DEZART
Reply #44 Monday, September 15, 2003 10:52 PM
Sorry, But trying to point to others work to distract attention from your failings was low.
As some have pointed out just keep working and take it as constructive.
Horiz0n was not out of line but on the mark.
horiz0n
Reply #45 Monday, September 15, 2003 11:23 PM
hey on a slightly more humorous side, he did get what he wanted, his wall is posted on wincustomize, just gotta go to the message board and click save picture as instead of going to the walls section
naitsirch79
Reply #46 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:26 AM
ok I can deal with that. I will do the blurred white flares not he little ones... I agree after looking at it they need to go.
naitsirch79
Reply #47 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:28 AM
ok I can deal with that. I will do the blurred white flares not he little ones... I agree after looking at it they need to go.
Styl-X Design
Reply #48 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:29 AM
too much look alike from jairo's work...
naitsirch79
Reply #49 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:30 AM
wow amazing when you actually talk about your post it gets denied much quicker...

Come on you guys are too cliqish. Have you ever heard of columbine?
Zodiaq~
Reply #50 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:32 AM
I don't think that looks like anything even remotely close to Jairo's work
SuChiUomizu
Reply #51 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:36 AM
If you mena the columbine school shooting I don't see how this can compare.



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SelfExiled
Reply #52 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:37 AM
First the positives:

Very nice theme idea for the coming Halloween.

The pumpkin was very nice, and quite well drawn.
The sweating effect was very nicely done.
The glass effect, also, very nicely done.
The green background, also, very nicely done.
The strange text effect, with the bevel, and the glass, and the distortions, also very nicely done.

Now, the negatives:

Never criticize another artist to justify your work. Very distasteful.
Never try to align yourself with other great artists. That was the downfall of many good artists. It is similar to The Knack putting down The Beatles, and look how they were viewed.
The image is not centered and makes it sort of displeasing to look at on the desktop.
If this is a Halloween theme, a pumpkin alone does nothing to support the overall theme. A few flying bats, a black cat and maybe a skeleton, would better glorify the theme. As a wallpaper alone, the theme needs to stand out.
Although a very good drawing, the effects do lack originality other than the "sweating look".

Overall:

I would not use it. Because, it is just a very nice pumpkin. It does nothing to really glorify the coming halloween season. The theme is not strong enough just being a pumpkin.

But, it is a very nice drawing overall.If you made a windowblind for this, or/and other supporting skins, I'm sure that this wall would be appreciated. I've seen much less in wallpapers accepted when it was part of an overall theme.

Now, if you had this wall as a logon, and added more to it as the wallpaper(like bats, black cat, and a skeleton), this would be awesome.

My personal overall rating would be an 7-8, in comparison to other wallpapers. Most importantly, DON'T GIVE UP, this is very, very nice.
Styl-X Design
Reply #53 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:39 AM
ChasUGC, its nice but the idea is stolen! I can also go and create a awesome poser figure with 3dsmax stuff, and after effect it in photoshop so it looks like shadowness his work, but I dont!... because it isn't orriginal.
Zodiaq~
Reply #54 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:44 AM
Styl...what idea is stolen?

If your saying this pumpkin is a stolen idea from Jairo's aqua stuff...

God help us all
SelfExiled
Reply #55 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:44 AM
This looks exactly like Jairo's work. That is probably the problem. The problem being originality. A single fruit image has been done, and Jairo holds all the rights in appreciation. "With a rebel yell we cried "more, more, more". Glass the bats, glass the black cat, and glass the skeleton, and I believe this would be a major hit.
SelfExiled
Reply #56 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:50 AM
Personally, I view much of the negativity to this work as jealousy. Very few artists can mimic Jairo's work as well as this one.
But, the criticism of Jairo has greatly smeared your own work.
Members will defend other members work here. You have probably hurt yourself dearly. I think an apology is in order and it may help.
Styl-X Design
Reply #57 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:51 AM
Zodiaq, the idea is stolen IMO. The image is not so good too.

Looks like its done with a paintbrush, and gradients, and thats it.
What makes it diffrend from jairo's work is that his art is totaly clear, sharp lines etc.

look at his Aqua Flower for example.
RadialFX
Reply #58 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:56 AM
horiz0n I'm sorry, I know I have a sick sense of humor but I couldn't let this just lay out there untouched. So, I mean all in fun! But.......

"he doesn't use freehand btw, he uses corel draw and photoshop."

I think he meant "BY Freehand" and not "IN Freehand".

I'm sorry, I know it's brutal but your a regular here like myself so I had to. The devil made me do it! All in fun.
naitsirch79
Reply #59 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:58 AM
ChasUGC...I agree and apologize for the aritistry skills comment. I have Jairo's aqua mellon on my desktop so no disrepect. I was only trying to say that nobody is perfect. I however must have been misunderstood on the comparing artist comments. I am not a VAn Gogh... , I never will be a monet either. I was simply saying this. They both were impressionist. One started it and another admired it and followed suit. In the end they were both great artist. So agian sorry if that was a misunderstanding...

To the guy who said I stole the pumpkin and put it into 3d max... ?????? HUH??? what i didn't get that one. I simply used PS7 and my mouse and wacom. And the background isnt lime green it is highlighted because to me that is more desktop friendly than a darker color. But your right I see the improvments I can make on this.
Zodiaq~
Reply #60 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 12:59 AM
Styl...Perhaps it was inspired by Jairo's work..I dunno.

Of course the image is not that good if you're comparing it to Jairo's...That's the point, there is no comparison

So why all the fuss It's just a damn pumpkin

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