How Come this site is not Opera friendly?
Sunday, September 14, 2003 by No75 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I am an Opera user, and alot of the things on this site don't work with Opera,like when I open wincustomize, the pages do not render correctly, this happens alot.. 
And on the message boards this text box is jumping up and down-lol..Oh I could just switch to IE I suppose, but IE and I parted ways along time ago..Please help us Opera users out and make your pages standards-compliant...... 
And on the message boards this text box is jumping up and down-lol..Oh I could just switch to IE I suppose, but IE and I parted ways along time ago..Please help us Opera users out and make your pages standards-compliant...... 
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GhoS
Reply #22 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:05 PM
Reply #22 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:05 PM
Hmm I use Mozilla Firebird and it is standards compliant similar to Opera in that way, and it displays everything fine for me including the message board. Well the board page doesn't "fit" into the window (has scrollbars for left/right) but it certainly isn't really messed up.
It is not unusual though for a website to be more geared towards IE as it is still the most popular browser even if it isn't the best one. It is the safer course of action until there is a stronger contigent of alternative browsers.
It is not unusual though for a website to be more geared towards IE as it is still the most popular browser even if it isn't the best one. It is the safer course of action until there is a stronger contigent of alternative browsers.
Jafo
Reply #23 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:10 PM
Reply #23 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:10 PM
WC always worked for me in Opera....from day one....when this site went up, I was using Opera 5 then.....and a bit of debugging work was done to sort out uploading time-outs.....the only thing which seemed to differ between Opera and IE when accessing the site...
Koasati
Reply #24 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:12 PM
Reply #24 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:12 PM
Ghos... the Comment box doesn't act weird for you? When I use Firebird on the messageboard, all text is underlined (as I type), and the box sort of jumps, when I move the mouse.
eieio
Reply #25 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:12 PM
Reply #25 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:12 PM
One problem I see (not necessarily with WC) is a lot of web page coders are using IE specific tags/coding which 'breaks' other browsers. A while back Microsoft was forced by public pressure to change the coding of the MSN site because it wouldn't display properly in other browsers and gave an error. Too many of their own MSN customers couldn't get into the MSN site.
I've tried a lot of the different browsers and found things I liked and disliked about all of them. I finally went back to IE just because of the coding problem on a lot of sites I went to.
I've tried a lot of the different browsers and found things I liked and disliked about all of them. I finally went back to IE just because of the coding problem on a lot of sites I went to.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #26 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:26 PM
Reply #26 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:26 PM
same here Koasati.
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No75
Reply #27 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:27 PM
Reply #27 Sunday, September 14, 2003 7:27 PM
Well I certainly did not expect all this just asking about Opera..lol..As was suggested to me earlier, to try a beta version, so I dl'd Opera 7.20 beta 11 and it works like a charm,pages here are rendered correctly, my apologies, however as pictoratus stated, alot of sites don't take in to account that not everyone uses IE or wants to. I believe that the internet should be open to all, no matter how you connect or what you view it with.Is that askin too much?And I don't care what browser you use, OPERA is the best..hehe 
joetheblow
Reply #28 Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:36 PM
Reply #28 Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:36 PM
Works over here...
oh and I like Firebird but I dumped it because windowblinds doesn't skin it (Stardock Exclusion)
Even though Netscape is a memory hog I love it! I do admit though Opera is by far the best browser I have tested (although I don't use it much at the moment)
Funny, during the course of my computer bing on I start with either MSN or Netscape, then go to the one I didn't start with (MSN or Netscape), and then I turn on Juno.... why??? because.
oh and I like Firebird but I dumped it because windowblinds doesn't skin it (Stardock Exclusion)
Even though Netscape is a memory hog I love it! I do admit though Opera is by far the best browser I have tested (although I don't use it much at the moment)
Funny, during the course of my computer bing on I start with either MSN or Netscape, then go to the one I didn't start with (MSN or Netscape), and then I turn on Juno.... why??? because.
joetheblow
Reply #29 Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:40 PM
Reply #29 Sunday, September 14, 2003 8:40 PM
oh and that text box jumping thing and underlineing the text also happens in Netscape... of course.
the only time I use regular old explorer is because of the Google Toolbar functions.
the only time I use regular old explorer is because of the Google Toolbar functions.
IPlural
Reply #30 Monday, September 15, 2003 9:33 AM
Reply #30 Monday, September 15, 2003 9:33 AM
it is Opera friendly as far as I know, and if your having problems you might try to have Opera ident as IE...
I do not have any problems in the least running Opera here and haven't.
I do not have any problems in the least running Opera here and haven't.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #31 Monday, September 15, 2003 11:26 AM
Reply #31 Monday, September 15, 2003 11:26 AM
What is ident and how do I do it in mozilla firebird?
GhoS
Reply #32 Monday, September 15, 2003 2:33 PM
Reply #32 Monday, September 15, 2003 2:33 PM
Ah Koasoti I hadn't actually typed in the message board in Firebird lol. It does underline it. That is odd. But it doesn't jump around.
joetheblow mentioned though that Firebird was excluded from Windowblinds skinning. I have it skinnsed just fine, scrollbars too. To be sure some parts aren't because FB skins itself, but it fits in with the theme I'm using just fine.
Glad I use the Skinbrowser or SDC usually to respond here, these underlines would drive me nuts.
joetheblow mentioned though that Firebird was excluded from Windowblinds skinning. I have it skinnsed just fine, scrollbars too. To be sure some parts aren't because FB skins itself, but it fits in with the theme I'm using just fine.
Glad I use the Skinbrowser or SDC usually to respond here, these underlines would drive me nuts
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IPlural
Reply #33 Monday, September 15, 2003 2:46 PM
Reply #33 Monday, September 15, 2003 2:46 PM
Not sure about firebird, but in Opera you set the browser to be identified as IE, MZ, NS when a site requests the browser type in the settings.
joetheblow
Reply #36 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:42 AM
Reply #36 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 4:42 AM
yeah. me neither. but then again I have the beta version of Opera (the free one)
Mozilla is skinned for you? But in the exclusions area for windowblinds it has Mozilla as a stardock exclusion. Am I the only one? Then again I have wb 3.51 not 4.1 and I am on Win98.
Mozilla is skinned for you? But in the exclusions area for windowblinds it has Mozilla as a stardock exclusion. Am I the only one? Then again I have wb 3.51 not 4.1 and I am on Win98.
GhoS
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:15 PM
Reply #37 Tuesday, September 16, 2003 1:15 PM
For Firebird you need to download an extension called UserAgent that will allow you to spoof what browser you are using.
Ah joetheblow, perhaps the older version of WB along with Win98 excludes Mozilla. I'm using 4.1 on XP so guess that is why mine is skinned.
Ah joetheblow, perhaps the older version of WB along with Win98 excludes Mozilla. I'm using 4.1 on XP so guess that is why mine is skinned.
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Reply #21 Sunday, September 14, 2003 6:53 PM