John Titor
Wednesday, September 10, 2003 by Hus | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
For those who do not know who John Titor is, he claimed to be a time traveler from the year 2036. Sound rediculous? I thought so when I first read the story at yellowalien.com (jark from DA's blog site). He posted links to find out more about Mr. Titor, and it does sound very plausable. If he was a fake, then he is a damned genius. His posts were accurate throughout and he was very knowledgable about his job. What kinda scares me is that some of his predictions are kinda comin' true...I dunno if he really was a time traveler or not...you be the judge.
http://www.johntitor.com/
http://www.johntitor.com/
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Zodiaq~
Reply #22 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:53 PM
Reply #22 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:53 PM
Thanks Hus...Actually I did read all of that 
I guess I'm like everyone else...If the guy said, "On September 15, 2003 at 10:04 a.m., A 7.1 quake would rock L.A." and it happened...I would be more inclined to believe. As it is...Like I said...Nothing 'Concrete' no proof.
John Titor/John Conner
I guess I'm like everyone else...If the guy said, "On September 15, 2003 at 10:04 a.m., A 7.1 quake would rock L.A." and it happened...I would be more inclined to believe. As it is...Like I said...Nothing 'Concrete' no proof.
John Titor/John Conner
paxx
Reply #23 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:13 PM
Reply #23 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 7:13 PM
Interesting story. Reminds me of a novel by John Grisham called Timeline. He uses the same based on the Wheeler theory of quantic time travel. I recommend it.
Jafo
Reply #24 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:09 PM
Reply #24 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 8:09 PM
Seems we need to up the production and distribution of those 'men in white coats'....couple of kangaroos loose in the top paddock again I see....
BoXXi
Reply #25 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:08 PM
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Reply #25 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:08 PM
I find this stuff fascinating, although I have read some conflicting theories about time travel. One said that you could only travel forwards in time, and that could only be done by breaking down the body into it's molecular components, placing it inside some vessel and then accelerating that vehicle to beyond the speed of light, though it would have to be at least ten times the speed of light to achieve any significant distance in to the future in an acceptable time frame.
Another theory was that even if a time machine was built, you could only go back as far as the moment that first time machine was switched on. All very confusing, but fun nonetheless.
I kinda hope time travel is a reality, at least I might get the opportunity to go back and correct some of the terrible decisions I have made in my life! 
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IPlural
Reply #26 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:12 PM
Reply #26 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:12 PM
06/20/2001 - Updated 02:32 PM ET
Maybe time travel could be possible
Q: I believe Einstein's General Relativity Theory mathematically proved that time travel into the past is impossible. Do the recent experiments showing that light can be slowed, then returned to its normal speed, have any theoretical implications for time travel?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/wonderquest/2001-06-20-time-travel.htm
Consistency with Special Relativity
Einstein special relativity (SR) is able to prove based on its premises that nothing can propagate faster than the speed of light in forward time. Is our result for the speed of gravity an experimental falsification of SR? The correct answer must be a qualified "yes and no." Strictly, the minor new interpretation of SR needed for consistency with our result is no more a falsification of SR than GR was a falsification of Newtonian gravity. In both cases, the earlier theory was incomplete rather than wrong. We will now examine exactly what must change about SR for full consistency with all existing experimental evidence and this new result as well.
http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/gravityspeed.html
Welcome to the
NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) Project
Public Information Site
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NEWS (January 31, 2003): There is no funding available for the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) Project.
http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/
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I've a subscription to Scientific America and will looking around and see whats in the archives and post anything of interest after a bit...
Maybe time travel could be possible
Q: I believe Einstein's General Relativity Theory mathematically proved that time travel into the past is impossible. Do the recent experiments showing that light can be slowed, then returned to its normal speed, have any theoretical implications for time travel?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/science/wonderquest/2001-06-20-time-travel.htm
Consistency with Special Relativity
Einstein special relativity (SR) is able to prove based on its premises that nothing can propagate faster than the speed of light in forward time. Is our result for the speed of gravity an experimental falsification of SR? The correct answer must be a qualified "yes and no." Strictly, the minor new interpretation of SR needed for consistency with our result is no more a falsification of SR than GR was a falsification of Newtonian gravity. In both cases, the earlier theory was incomplete rather than wrong. We will now examine exactly what must change about SR for full consistency with all existing experimental evidence and this new result as well.
http://www.ldolphin.org/vanFlandern/gravityspeed.html
Welcome to the
NASA Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) Project
Public Information Site
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NEWS (January 31, 2003): There is no funding available for the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics (BPP) Project.
http://www.lerc.nasa.gov/WWW/bpp/
.......
I've a subscription to Scientific America and will looking around and see whats in the archives and post anything of interest after a bit...
EventHorizon
Reply #27 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:16 PM
Reply #27 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:16 PM
Facinating site, though, its all a bit hard to swallow. Civil war in 2005? Ill believe it when I see it.
Old_Crab
Reply #28 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:36 PM
Reply #28 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:36 PM
Has anybody ever thought that the speed of light may be just a slow form of a physical particle stream and thereby be a non-judicious form of standard speed measurement. Come on, people we've only just now stepped out of the stone age (geologically speaking) and we already seem to be saying we understand the mechanicians of the Universe. Arrogance in the extreme! There's probably unheard and unknown speeds in the Universe that we can't now or ever be able to fathom. The web site is an interesting bit of sci-fi though. >
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #29 Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:21 AM
Reply #29 Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:21 AM
Good words from OC. Man is intelligent, therefore we know we are right...ha!
"The Earth is the centre of the universe, anyone who says different will be burned at the stake"
Sound familiar? "Nothing can travel faster than light..." Sounds familiar to me (without the burning at the stake bit)
Man is barely evolved pond scum, just take a look around
"The Earth is the centre of the universe, anyone who says different will be burned at the stake"
Sound familiar? "Nothing can travel faster than light..." Sounds familiar to me (without the burning at the stake bit)
Man is barely evolved pond scum, just take a look around
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #30 Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:23 AM
Reply #30 Thursday, September 11, 2003 1:23 AM
This Titor guy needs putting away somewhere. A room with nice soft walls should do the trick.
Phoon
Reply #31 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:04 AM
Reply #31 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:04 AM
Not that it is relevant to time travel, but allow me to quote some deep thought inducing material from Stephen King...
"If you fell outward to the limit of the universe, would you find a board fence and signs reading DEAD END? No. You might find something hard and rounded, as the chick must see the egg from the inside. And if you should peck through that shell, what great and torrential light might shine through your hole at the end of space? Might you look through and discover our entire universe is but a part of one atom on a blade of grass? Might you be force to think that by burning a twig you incinerate an eternity of eternities? That existence rises not to one infinite but to an infinity of them?
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I agree with OC's line of thought, that man in his ever increasing infinite wisdom is yet still a sniveling idiot in the general scheme of things. For all we know, Einstein, while seeming to be extremely intelligent, may have been entirely incorrect in the larger scope. How can one possibly discount ANY possibility when we really know nothing of the true nature of things?
I don't really subscribe to this John Titor thing, however, you can bet that if this civil war does begin to take shape within the next year or so, I will be looking more closely at possibilities for 2015, although a full scale nuclear war as he describes would render the planet uninhabitable for many years more than from whence he claims to have arrived from...
"If you fell outward to the limit of the universe, would you find a board fence and signs reading DEAD END? No. You might find something hard and rounded, as the chick must see the egg from the inside. And if you should peck through that shell, what great and torrential light might shine through your hole at the end of space? Might you look through and discover our entire universe is but a part of one atom on a blade of grass? Might you be force to think that by burning a twig you incinerate an eternity of eternities? That existence rises not to one infinite but to an infinity of them?
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I agree with OC's line of thought, that man in his ever increasing infinite wisdom is yet still a sniveling idiot in the general scheme of things. For all we know, Einstein, while seeming to be extremely intelligent, may have been entirely incorrect in the larger scope. How can one possibly discount ANY possibility when we really know nothing of the true nature of things?
I don't really subscribe to this John Titor thing, however, you can bet that if this civil war does begin to take shape within the next year or so, I will be looking more closely at possibilities for 2015, although a full scale nuclear war as he describes would render the planet uninhabitable for many years more than from whence he claims to have arrived from...
kona0197
Reply #32 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:38 AM
We did NOT evolve.
Reply #32 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:38 AM
| Man is barely evolved pond scum, |
We did NOT evolve.
kona0197
Reply #34 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:42 AM
Reply #34 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:42 AM
exactly!
What I meant though is we were Created not evolved.
But that is a decussion for another thread.
What I meant though is we were Created not evolved.
But that is a decussion for another thread.
Jachyra
Reply #36 Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:15 AM
Reply #36 Thursday, September 11, 2003 10:15 AM
As far as what we do know or don't know about science, the universe, etc., I always come back to this:
As advanced as we are today (as a civilization), we know enough to know that we know nothing yet.
Just my $0.02
As advanced as we are today (as a civilization), we know enough to know that we know nothing yet.
Just my $0.02
The DJ
Reply #37 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:55 PM
Reply #37 Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:55 PM
Such BS.
He creates an air of plausible deniability; if he predicts something and it comes true then it's because he's from the future. If not, then it's because of the multi-verse. Such BS!!!
"What music do 20 year olds listen to?"
"People listen to all types of music. A great deal of it is available over the web. I would also add that people spend much more time making their own music."
Gimme a break. He can't anwser simple questions? So vague. Over the web? Realllllly???
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He creates an air of plausible deniability; if he predicts something and it comes true then it's because he's from the future. If not, then it's because of the multi-verse. Such BS!!!
"What music do 20 year olds listen to?"
"People listen to all types of music. A great deal of it is available over the web. I would also add that people spend much more time making their own music."
Gimme a break. He can't anwser simple questions? So vague. Over the web? Realllllly???
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Jafo
Reply #38 Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:04 PM
Reply #38 Thursday, September 11, 2003 8:04 PM
A wannabe Nostradamus...[sp]......lives in la-la land....should we just laugh or is that cruel?....
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Reply #21 Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:25 PM