WindowBlinds 11 planning
Friday, December 25, 2020 by Frogboy | Discussion: WindowBlinds
We are putting together the schedule to make WindowBlinds 11.
Customization is a lot harder now than it used to be. Microsoft, for reasons unknown, has actively encouraged developers to take care of their own client and even non client (border, frame) painting rather than using standard Windows controls.
Microsoft's baffling decision to throw away trying to provide a standard set of in-app controls for developers and instead provide vague, often conflicting standards (cough, Fluent) has resulted in having less and less of the OS we can even touch.
Which is unfortunate because WindowBlinds, in theory, could actually give Windows users a consistent, OS-wide Fluent if apps weren't handling the drawing of their own UIs these days.
Still, with that in mind, there are things we can do such as skin the standard OS controls and then handle apps on a case-by-case basis. Keep in mind though, the more non-standard apps we have to handle, the harder it is for us to keep compatibility.
Earlier this year we released Curtains which doesn't even hook into the OS. This means it is 100% compatible. Skins, even the weirdest ones, won't break a given app. Of course, the price is that it doesn't skin nearly as much (no client area GUI controls like scrollbars, push buttons, radio buttons, etc.). It's done quite well. However, we know there are still plenty of people out there who would like to have more full control over how their Windows desktop looks.
That's where this thread comes in: What would you like to see in WindowBlinds 11?
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Reply #522 Thursday, February 24, 2022 5:42 PM
Sources say they start working on it beginning March 2022, which has a completely different meaning. As side note I did not read any source claiming it will be released on March 22.
Reply #523 Friday, February 25, 2022 9:22 AM
Sources say they start working on it beginning March 2022, which has a completely different meaning. As side note I did not read any source claiming it will be released on March 22.
March 2022 or later was what i read, but we will all know soon enough.
Reply #524 Friday, February 25, 2022 1:40 PM
Sources say they start working on it beginning March 2022, which has a completely different meaning. As side note I did not read any source claiming it will be released on March 22.
March 2022 or later was what i read, but we will all know soon enough.
Not all Microsoft sources are created equal though so don't forget a grain of salt when reading that. If I were stardock I wouldn't take it serious. Too soon.
Reply #525 Friday, February 25, 2022 3:32 PM
At the end it all seems a joke by a Micrcosoft MVP.
Reply #526 Friday, February 25, 2022 3:41 PM
At the end it all seems a joke by a Micrcosoft MVP.
I agree with you there. It does comes across as a joke. In essence it is stating that Windows 12 will be released soon and will require 2 TPM 2.0 chips which no one has. Technically, It isn't really 2 TPM chips but it is indeed a second security chip that just came out by Microsoft and is in very few devices even new ones do not have them in many cases. It has to be a joke.
Reply #527 Sunday, February 27, 2022 10:38 AM
Yes , as per many MS jokes, it's on us. Still i am sure when and if it does happen , there will still be peeps at GitHub and other like minded places who will create a fix making the insistence on 2 TPM chip not really necessary at all. So far none of my machines has the chip and the ones Running Win 11 work and update just fine, can not see that changing, i certainly will not rush out and add more money to my set up just because MS says so , they will always act and others will re act.
Reply #529 Saturday, June 11, 2022 5:06 PM
Reply #530 Saturday, June 11, 2022 9:10 PM
I almost was gonna SAY SOMETHING STUPID, BUT........ WB 11 
-Kindof.
Reply #532 Monday, June 13, 2022 4:00 PM
Just to provide an update, we are making progress on WB11 - we don't have a public release date yet but are pushing toward internal deadlines so that we can release the application that is compatible with the many flavors of Windows 11.
Reply #533 Tuesday, June 14, 2022 10:00 AM
Many thanks for the update BradSams.
I can Not Wait to get my Hands on it, well i can wait, you get the idea.
Reply #534 Tuesday, June 14, 2022 7:58 PM
Jeezus... Fences, Groupie, Start 11, etc etc etc.... get this train on the rail !
(which is THE No. One product ALL Time)
Reply #535 Wednesday, June 15, 2022 12:40 AM
IDK. Groupy and Start11 for me are required.
WB11 is a fun toy to play around with. I think the UI in 11 has been improved enough to not need WB11.
Reply #537 Wednesday, June 15, 2022 3:35 AM
The worst parts of the UI in Windows 11 are taken care of with Start 11. The Start menu and the task bar are the problems. However, I have gotten used the Windows 11 menu concept and it has definitely grown on me. Still Start 11 does the Windows 11 themed start menu better then Microsoft does.
Other then those two issue's, I do not understand why people dislike the UI in Windows 11. It actually is the best looking OS I have seen from Microsoft to date. But, as good as the UI is, the ability to theme Windows 11 is very lacking. All we get is a few minor color changes, what the heck? I look forward to Windowblinds 11 being able to change that.
Reply #538 Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:16 AM
Other then those two issue's, I do not understand why people dislike the UI in Windows 11. It actually is the best looking OS I have seen from Microsoft to date. But, as good as the UI is, the ability to theme Windows 11 is very lacking. All we get is a few minor color changes, what the heck? I look forward to Windowblinds 11 being able to change that.
I have now put in so many man hours on Win 11, For me it is the go to OS, I Love it, just needs a WB11 to go with it to make it whole for me, although the flip side of the coin "Themes" can do a lot more at the moment, i have posted screenshots of my Win 11 Fully Skinned or Themed in other topics.
When WB11 does arrive, i think i will keep both Win 11 SSDs, one for each.
My all time Favourite thing built into WB10, has to be the Colour Changer, i do hope this is built on and can still do all it does now and more maybe, with just 1 Skin using this tool, gives the user the ability to create Different Colour Sub Styles making the WB look Brilliant in several Contrasting Colours.
Also a question.
Will WB11 and Skin Studio both be updated at the same time and released, i only ask as i have read nothing about this, and when i purchased WB , Skin Studio came with it, maybe a daft question as the skinners will need an updated Skin Studio to work with WB11, Have i got this correct anyone?
Reply #539 Wednesday, June 15, 2022 4:40 PM
Reply #540 Wednesday, June 15, 2022 9:38 PM
Can this be updated then? It's at the bottom of the object desktop page.
Please refer to this thread on Stardock Software compatibility list : https://forums.stardock.com/505717/stardock-app-compatibility
Thank you,
Basj,
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Reply #521 Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:33 PM
I believe talk of Windows 12 to be incorrect.