WindowBlinds 11 planning

Friday, December 25, 2020 by Frogboy | Discussion: WindowBlinds

We are putting together the schedule to make WindowBlinds 11.  

Customization is a lot harder now than it used to be.  Microsoft, for reasons unknown, has actively encouraged developers to take care of their own client and even non client (border, frame) painting rather than using standard Windows controls.  

Microsoft's baffling decision to throw away trying to provide a standard set of in-app controls for developers and instead provide vague, often conflicting standards (cough, Fluent) has resulted in having less and less of the OS we can even touch.

Which is unfortunate because WindowBlinds, in theory, could actually give Windows users a consistent, OS-wide Fluent if apps weren't handling the drawing of their own UIs these days.

Still, with that in mind, there are things we can do such as skin the standard OS controls and then handle apps on a case-by-case basis.  Keep in mind though, the more non-standard apps we have to handle, the harder it is for us to keep compatibility.

Earlier this year we released Curtains which doesn't even hook into the OS.  This means it is 100% compatible. Skins, even the weirdest ones, won't break a given app.  Of course, the price is that it doesn't skin nearly as much (no client area GUI controls like scrollbars, push buttons, radio buttons, etc.).  It's done quite well.  However, we know there are still plenty of people out there who would like to have more full control over how their Windows desktop looks.

That's where this thread comes in: What would you like to see in WindowBlinds 11?  

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LightStar
Reply #341 Wednesday, November 24, 2021 4:53 PM

I am really hoping and praying that the new version of SkinStudio for Windows 11 will not have all the bugs that SkinStudio 10 has. Thanks for the info on Windowblinds 11 BradSams. If you need a tester for anything, I will gladly help out.

Koogle
Reply #342 Thursday, November 25, 2021 3:59 PM

omg .. win11 is so trash.. how are my eyes going to cope/ ... those blithering retards at MS can't even make a dark theme without failing to actually fix the legacy ui controls are still blinding white.. in dark mode....

 

At least in Win10 you could still fix certain old legacy ui controls.. or better use curtains..  now can't do anything except use dark mode, just about everything you use literally all WHITE from the titlebar to most the ui controls.. just look at notepad.exe  

If someone ever dropped a nuke on MS Redmond, nothing would be lost I'm just saying. Probably move over to a Linux desktop distro  within year and never look back at what they've turned Windows into.

JanOscar
Reply #343 Thursday, November 25, 2021 6:59 PM

Koogle

omg .. win11 is so trash..
So why did you "downgrade" to Windows 11?

Koogle
Reply #344 Thursday, November 25, 2021 7:32 PM

Because a Windows 10 update bricked the pc, which happened a week ago so I just went full wipe and put Win11 on... I mean its not like MS is going to make there useless updates less shit for either OS at this point... though the lack of decent theming is giving me reason to go back.

JCurie
Reply #345 Thursday, November 25, 2021 10:18 PM

Bradsams, thanks for the info. You can add me to the user list that would enjoy working with Stardock with either nightly build /alpha or beta of windowsblinds 11. I can't speak for every one obviously but I would have preferred Stardock to have concentrated on window blinds 11 first then release start 11 and fences and others. Just my thoughts. But that's in the past so I am just looking forward to seeing windowblinds 11. 

RedneckDude
Reply #346 Friday, November 26, 2021 12:25 AM

LightStar

SkinStudio for Windows 11
Ain't gonna happen.  Face it.

RedneckDude
Reply #347 Friday, November 26, 2021 12:26 AM

don5318


Quoting Neil Banfield,

Actually it is free with WB too.



How bout that (after all these years of skinning), I did not know that, I just learned something today, thanks Neil.     

  LOL...noob.

 

RedneckDude
Reply #348 Friday, November 26, 2021 12:31 AM

JanOscar

So why did you "downgrade" to Windows 11?
In my opinion, not a downgrade.  I realize that most of the anti 11 remarks are due to an addiction to Stardock.  I like Stardock and Windowblinds as much as the next guy, but it WILL all end at some point.  Be it with Windows 11 or whenever.  But it will end.  Windows 11 isn't so bad, from a standpoint of progress. Change is difficult for some.

RedneckDude
Reply #349 Friday, November 26, 2021 12:36 AM

This may not interest most, but via a friend I recently found an easy way to make Windows 11 look like Mac OS.  Kinda cool.  The author modified some Curtains files to make it happen, but it works rather well.

 

Nevertheless, I like Windows 11 as is.  I will miss Windowblinds but it is inevitable.

RedneckDude
Reply #350 Friday, November 26, 2021 12:37 AM

Screenshot available if desired.

 

Victechnical
Reply #351 Friday, November 26, 2021 9:29 AM

RedneckDude
Windows 11 isn't so bad, from a standpoint of progress. Change is difficult for some.

The problem I have with Windows 11 is it doesn't look like progress.  There's nothing in it that could not have been implemented in Windows 10 via the usual feature updates.  It was not necessary to mess with the UI.  It doesn't only break Stardock apps.  It makes a lot of perfectly good hardware obsolete.  

 
Koogle
Reply #352 Friday, November 26, 2021 9:32 AM

tell us more.. Win11 looks like shit especially when you go Dark Mode and find literally every application window  built using winforms from the top to bottom is literally White.. those fking retards at MS.

 

Especially when they go ahead and break the work of developers behind Curtains etc and any other ux theme patching efforts

naroon1
Reply #353 Friday, November 26, 2021 12:21 PM

The creators of UX Theme Patcher have released a couple of updates enabling the use of many Windows 10 themes alongside another popular start replacement program, allowing them to work fine with Windows 11.  Just added another " Kinetik Tech Edition" and "Kinetik Aqua Edition" as my love of Dark skins and Electric Green Text is well known. Working Flawlessly on a windows 11 Enterprise Latest Build, fully updated.

 

It was Stardock that got me into Skinning my system, and as there is still no release for a WB 11 Beta, i had to go elsewhere, experimenting, changing, until i had something that is 95% as good as WB 10. 

JCurie
Reply #354 Friday, November 26, 2021 5:38 PM

Koogle

tell us more.. Win11 looks like shit especially when you go Dark Mode and find literally every application window  built using winforms from the top to bottom is literally White.. those fking retards at MS.

 

Especially when they go ahead and break the work of developers behind Curtains etc and any other ux theme patching efforts

My friend it the UI so it's personable I actually prefer Windows 11 stock UI to windows 8 or 10. Did not like tiles or the ribbon.  But to each his own. Hopefully Stardock will bring windowblinds 11 out soon that way we all can make windows more to our liking. 

IAMTHEMACHINE
Reply #355 Friday, November 26, 2021 6:13 PM

dont think it will come out anytime soon.. think i saw someone say on here that it wasnt gonna be until 2023 or something like that lol

Jafo
Reply #356 Friday, November 26, 2021 7:43 PM

IAMTHEMACHINE

dont think it will come out anytime soon.. think i saw someone say on here that it wasnt gonna be until 2023 or something like that lol

The "someone" was the CEO of Stardock and it was a typo.

Just refer back to comment #340, and anything subsequent from BradSams and you will be up to speed with reality...

JCurie
Reply #357 Friday, November 26, 2021 7:47 PM



Quoting IAMTHEMACHINE,

dont think it will come out anytime soon.. think i saw someone say on here that it wasnt gonna be until 2023 or something like that lol



The "someone" was the CEO of Stardock and it was a typo.

Just refer back to comment #340, and anything subsequent from Bradsams and you will be up to speed with reality...

That may be true. But it would be nice for his paying customers to actually hear that from the CEO himself. Don't you think? 

neone6
Reply #358 Friday, November 26, 2021 9:45 PM

JCurie

it would be nice for his paying customers to actually hear that from the CEO himself. Don't you think? 
-If you don't trust JAFO then...??   

JanOscar
Reply #359 Friday, November 26, 2021 9:46 PM

JCurie

That may be true. But it would be nice for his paying customers to actually hear that from the CEO himself. Don't you think?
No.

JCurie
Reply #360 Friday, November 26, 2021 10:30 PM

neone6


Quoting JCurie,

it would be nice for his paying customers to actually hear that from the CEO himself. Don't you think? 

-If you don't trust JAFO then...??   

It's not about trust. It's about doing the right thing. There is a difference. 

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