Is this how MS intends to behave?

Malware, adware, ransomware type behavior.

Friday, July 3, 2020 by DrJBHL | Discussion: Personal Computing


I had installed Edge previously, and I haven't seen what the author of the above linked article is describing. Not sure I'd ask anyone to check if it's true after reading what he wrote, though. This really borders on monopolistic practice, considering Edge isn't IE base at all, rather it's Chromium based.

I wonder if any of you folks have seen anything like what's described in the Verge article, though.

This, along with wonky updates makes me really wonder "Quo vadis MS?".

 

Anyway, have a great weekend!

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DaveRI
Reply #1 Friday, July 3, 2020 9:50 AM


I wonder if any of you folks have seen anything like what's described in the Verge article, though.

I don't think so.  If I'm looking at the right update (KB4559309) though that was a couple of weeks ago on me and I may have just "clicked it all out" and forgotten about it.  I do that sometimes.

DaveRI
Reply #2 Friday, July 3, 2020 10:16 AM

I just now thought to check my desktop icons, which I have hidden.  Sure enough, there's a shortcut to Edge created on that date which is one of the things he mentions, clicking that out right now.  So, a little more likely that I did click out the rest of it too.

DrJBHL
Reply #3 Friday, July 3, 2020 11:08 AM

DaveRI

Sure enough, there's a shortcut to Edge created on that date which is one of the things he mentions

Thanks for checking, Dave. If they'd done this stuff in the 90's they'd have been banned from the EU.

Publius of NV
Reply #4 Friday, July 3, 2020 12:12 PM

That's exactly what happened to me.  A forced update installed Edge, put an icon on my desktop, pinned it to my start bar, reboot automatically brought up Edge where it wanted me to make it the default browser.  I managed to click and cancel out of everything, so Firefox is still my default browser, but I haven't tried to uninstall Edge.

And no, this doesn't surprise me at all, it's exactly what I expect of Microsoft.

ALMonty
Reply #5 Friday, July 3, 2020 12:21 PM

I did have something funky happen. I'll try to explain, so bear with me.

I have a Win 8.1 laptop that I use and I installed Edge when it was available for 7,8 and 10. When I installed it on my laptop it was in Beta (even the Icon says Beta on it). From a recent MS update, on a restart Edge opened up. It looked like a new browser and I was asked if I wanted to import Favorites from IE. I said no and thought Edge Beta was replaced with a new out of Beta browser. I closed the window and noticed that I had 2 Edge icons on my taskbar One that said EDGE and the other that said Beta. I opened the Beta and all my favorites were still there. So now I have 2 copies of Edge. There was a Edge shortcut on my desktop.

On my Win 10 I upgraded the Edge browser to Edge Chromium from the MS website about 3 months ago. Went through a couple of MS updates and I don't see this happening to my Win 10 computer.

A couple of things from this article..

He said that he couldn't close the browser. I hit the close button and it closed. 

It asked me if I wanted to make it my default browser. As they all do.

He said that there were no way to uninstall. Both my laptop and desktop it's located in Program and Features in the Control Panel. 

Basically what happened the Edge browser that came with Win 10 was upgraded to Edge Chromium. A lot of people didn't use Edge they were using Google and just let it sit. All this is, is an update to a MS program that launched at start up to let you know that is was updated. 

Yes MS wants you to use their product rather then Google's.

DrJBHL
Reply #6 Friday, July 3, 2020 2:23 PM

ALMonty

Yes MS wants you to use their product rather then Google's.

So it's o.k. to install a browser on your system which you didn't ask for? And, it is somehow a critical update which you can't avoid? I don't think so. They force it on you to collect information on your browsing habits which they can sell...just like Google, etc. You've long since ceased being a consumer...you're the commodity.

ALMonty
Reply #7 Friday, July 3, 2020 3:21 PM

I think you missed it. You already had the browser on your computer. Windows already came with Edge. The Edge browser was an app. MS changed to Chromium and installed it as a program. If you don’t like it uninstall it. Not a big deal. 

in case you weren’t aware all browsers collect information on what you search for. You can see this in auto fill and auto search. If you pay bills online or banking or buy something they have your info because you gave it to them. 

RedneckDude
Reply #8 Friday, July 3, 2020 11:16 PM

Wasn't Internet Explorer kinda forced on us since way back? Not really seeing the difference here, but then, I am a country boy.

starkers
Reply #9 Saturday, July 4, 2020 12:25 AM

ALMonty

I think you missed it. You already had the browser on your computer. Windows already came with Edge. The Edge browser was an app. MS changed to Chromium and installed it as a program. If you don’t like it uninstall it. Not a big deal.

Thing there is finding it to uninstall it.  Went looking for it yesterday and it's not in program files anywhere.  I eventually found it in Windows>SystemApps, but not everybody would know to look there.

Frankly, Edge is not for me and I shall stick to Firefox until something better comes along....which isn't Edge.

As for MS' behaviour, it has been reprehensible ever since Satya Nadella took over the helm.  I had hoped he would be the breath of fresh air that MS and consumers needed to start afresh, but alas, he's worse than Steve Ballmer and doesn't give a rat's arse about users.

DrJBHL
Reply #10 Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:36 AM

I'd be very careful about uninstalling Edge for the very reason it is a system app and doing that can lead to system instability, although I haven't seen any reports of that specifically.

That being said, it might just be safer to disable it. This very recent article explains the "how to" of disabling and uninstalling should you really wish to do so, along with other things.

RedneckDude
Reply #11 Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:48 AM

Easily uninstalled with iObit Uninstaller.

Supergrovercmstorm
Reply #12 Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:04 PM

Perspective here, are you guys upset that Chrome and Firefox both updated also? No why not same poop different pile, the chomium edge is just that a updated version of edge, same as when there is a major update to other browsers, not really much difference there.

 

While I have plenty of hate for window and their practices this just seams like ppl complaining to complain.

 

neone6
Reply #13 Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:06 PM

Everything is Malware   

Daiwa
Reply #14 Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:47 PM

neone6

Everything is Malware   

Hard to argue with that these days.  

KetenFlume
Reply #15 Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:54 PM

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starkers
Reply #16 Saturday, July 4, 2020 11:00 PM

Hmmm, Chrome is probably the worst for data collection and snooping on users internet usage.  It's not a browser I would trust.... and MS' edge isn't something I'd trust, either.

Daiwa
Reply #17 Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:17 PM

If you're looking for a browser that doesn't collect or report, Brave & Duck Duck Go are worth a spin.

Jan Oscar
Reply #18 Sunday, July 5, 2020 1:58 PM


Brave
I use Brave since a few weeks. No regrets.

Avatar137
Reply #19 Sunday, July 5, 2020 2:54 PM

JanOscar


Quoting Daiwa,

Brave

I use Brave since a few weeks. No regrets.



Thats all I’ve used since early ‘19 when I stumbled upon it. It’s got my seal of approval! (not that THAT really means much...😉)

Daiwa
Reply #20 Sunday, July 5, 2020 3:17 PM

One 'benefit' of Brave, actually the one that persuaded me to switch to it as my default, is that it renders pages flawlessly, far more reliably than any other browser available at the time I switched, which must be almost 2 years ago now, and I test-drove all of them at the time.  Maybe others have improved since, but I see no reason to abandon Brave.

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