Finally - a new PC...

Wednesday, July 1, 2020 by kona0197 | Discussion: Personal Computing

Not sure everyone knows but for the longest time I was using a All-In-One HP computer. I was old, made around 2012. it had a dual-core Pentium G850 CPU @ 2.2 GHz, 4GB of DDR3, 500 GB 5400 RPM hard drive, and barely ran Windows 10. I upgraded the system with a 256 GB SSD and it ran decent enough, but I figured now was a good time to upgrade my computer to something better and newer. The only saving grace the old computer has was a 23" screen. I wanted to go back to a laptop, so I got a HP. It has a 10th Gen dual-core Intel Core I3 @ 1.2 Ghz with a speed boost up to 3.3 GHz and hyper-threading, 8 GB of DDR4, and a 256 GB SSD. 15.6" screen.

Not quite used to it yet...

Pros:
* 10th gen CPU - but I see no difference from my old Pentium
* The newest and fastest DDR4 memory
* M.2 SSD drive
* 8 GB of RAM - never had more than 4 in any system
* Very snappy with booting, task switching, and loading web pages

Cons:
* Flimsy - it's very thin and light, flexes quite easy
* No DVD drive
* No matter what setting I choose the display is too bright, the whites are not white enough and the blacks are not dark enough
* Crappy PC speakers - but it has Bluetooth so that's almost not an issue
* Keyboard has a slight rattle to it
* This CPU and GPU do not want to play my old Command & Conquer games
* Only 2 USB A ports and 1 USB C port
* Windows 10....

Jafo
Reply #1 Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:26 AM

Good to see win10 in the 'cons'....

kona0197
Reply #2 Wednesday, July 1, 2020 3:31 AM

Yeah Jafo I would run Windows 7 if MS still supported it. Windows 10 is just a clusterfu*k of an OS. 

admiralWillyWilber
Reply #3 Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:59 AM

To my opinion you should've went with a quad core, and a I5, or a I7, and 16 or better gigabytes of ram before you worry about a SSD drive.

I would even go with integrated graphics to get those specs. 

I would use windows 10 over 8.

kona0197
Reply #4 Wednesday, July 1, 2020 1:43 PM

I wasn't looking to buy a computer with or without a SSD drive, it's just what it came with. All I use my computer for is web browsing, word processing, and playing 10 year old games. So a traditional hard drive would have been fine. And 8 GB of RAM is more than enough for me. It's a notebook. Of course it has integrated video. 

Phoon
Reply #5 Wednesday, July 1, 2020 2:18 PM

admiralWillyWilber

To my opinion you should've went with a quad core, and a I5, or a I7, and 16 or better gigabytes of ram before you worry about a SSD drive.

Not true at all. You will get far more speed from an SSD than a spinning disk!

Jafo
Reply #6 Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:29 AM

Yep, Phoon's right...a SSD is second on the list of improvements for speed....after more ram.

Though...in the case of a laptop....it's 3rd....after more ram [second] and FIRST... reformat to get rid of all the pre-installed bloatware...

starkers
Reply #7 Thursday, July 2, 2020 12:33 AM

Phoon


Quoting admiralWillyWilber,

To my opinion you should've went with a quad core, and a I5, or a I7, and 16 or better gigabytes of ram before you worry about a SSD drive.



Not true at all. You will get far more speed from an SSD than a spinning disk!

Exactly!  Over the years I performed several upgrades and replacing a regular HDD with a SSD was more noticeable performance/speedwise than upping the CPU and/or RAM specs.  Yes, upping the RAM can help with more memory intensive tasks, but it doesn't necessarily improve speed significantly.  A faster CPU will produce better speeds, but if a regular HDD [especially say, a 5400RPM] bottlenecks that extra speed and power, then it can be a wasted exercise.

Yup, SSDs have revolutionised computing, and given how prices have fallen in the last couple of years, replacing a platter drive with a SSD is probably the best upgrade for the money.

kona0197
Reply #8 Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:31 AM

Jafo I was surprised to find almost no bloatware on here on the first boot. Maybe 5 to 7 programs I uninstalled quickly and easily. Other than my diabetic eyes having to adjust to a smaller screen the laptop isn't too bad. 

Jafo
Reply #9 Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:59 AM

It's  still the recovery partitions and other 'junk' that no one ever really needs...all 5 laptops currently in the house have been redone from full drive wipe...

admiralWillyWilber
Reply #10 Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:21 AM

I guess things dont matter if your games are ten years old, but if you were playing current games, or were planning to. I play multiplayer my friend uses an A10. The processor makes a difference.

kona0197
Reply #11 Thursday, July 2, 2020 3:54 PM

No recovery partition on this one. I think it relies on a cloud reinstalltion if you need a system restore. 

admiralWillyWilber
Reply #12 Friday, July 3, 2020 11:57 AM

My computer was like that I made a usb recovery flash drive.

c242
Reply #13 Saturday, July 4, 2020 3:51 AM

FIRST... reformat to get rid of all the pre-installed bloatware...


Listen 2 Jafo. To keep all the drivers, tool of choice is setting back windows though. Windows 10 does that quite right.

kona0197
Reply #14 Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:00 AM

Yeah, no worries, I uninstalled all the software it came with, basically I went back to a vanilla install. Then I added my programs of choice. Still thinking of putting Windowblinds on here, it would be the first time I have used Stardock software in years. 

Jafo
Reply #15 Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:28 AM

Kona....the process for a laptop is to fully format the drive, not just a partition....and don't just rely on uninstalling  'stuff'.... simply have nothing what-so ever existing on the hardware at all.

Then format...install the OS.  Update...add drivers etc...then you have a vanilla OS.  If you are 'deleting something' it means you got it wrong already...

c242
Reply #16 Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:53 AM

Nah, that was pre Windows 10. Built in Windows 10 System Restore does the job really good. No vendor stuff any more after that except the needed drivers. You have a vanilla system after that.

kona0197
Reply #17 Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:12 PM

Jafo this notebook only has one partition. It came that way. 

Pertinacity
Reply #18 Saturday, July 4, 2020 8:54 PM

Good for you, I also plan to upgrade my PC since my current PC is already 2 years old and quite outdated.

kona0197
Reply #19 Wednesday, July 8, 2020 1:23 AM

Wow this PC has some issues. Sure, it's fast enough, but I can't get all my games to play. Quite sad. It refuses to play Command And Conquer Generals. Not too surprised, that games is really, really old. It is very picky about what hardware I use, has to be the old Pentium 4 era stuff to run correctly. The thing that gets me is my Hoyle Card Games. Refuses to run full screen and I have yet to find a workaround. Same thing with my copy of The Game Of Life. Everything else runs just fine, just have to get used to a small screen. Coming from a 22" down to a 15" inch is hurting the eyes. 

starkers
Reply #20 Wednesday, July 8, 2020 6:30 AM

Pertinacity

Good for you, I also plan to upgrade my PC since my current PC is already 2 years old and quite outdated.

Outdated don't mean to say it's not good anymore..... that older PCs are no good.  A newer PC may be a bit faster here and there, but if your current PC does all you need it to fast enough, then you may as well save the money for something you really need.

I update home builds as newer tech supercedes my current build, but that's just me... I have to have the best and newest tech as soon as I'm able to afford it.  However, what I have serves me well enough that I plan to no longer build any more PCs.  I used to enjoy building and servicing PCs, but with arthritis and stuff it's getting to be more than I can manage these days.

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