Taking a break from Twitter

Friday, May 29, 2020 by Frogboy | Discussion: Life, the Universe and Everything

It's funny how Twitter started out claiming it was a messaging service.  And yet, over the years, it has become as moderated, often with a political bias to its moderation, as any community forum.

I wonder if it might be worth putting in effort on JoeUser.com.  Before there was Facebook or Twitter, we had JoeUser which was intended to be a place where people could easily share their thoughts with friends.

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ALMonty
Reply #21 Sunday, May 31, 2020 10:19 AM

Not to go on a political rant here, but why is one candidate scared of mail in ballots and the other candidate is not.

Maybe it's how the country has been handled in the last 6 months.

Frogboy
Reply #22 Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:14 PM

BigDogBigFeet


Quoting Frogboy,

You are confusing facts with opinions you agree with.  For instance, mail in voting fraud does happen. That is a fact.



This is a ridiculous and petty justification.  The incidence of voter fraud is quite low while disenfranchising voters through gerrymandering is far more common.

Once upon a time we mailed in our tax forms.  We didn't hear any cries to stop doing that just because some mailed tax forms had "errors".

I think the motivations for declaring mailed in ballots can't be trusted is dishonest and a prelude for attempt to nullify votes in an upcoming election. 

That is your opinion.  And you are entitled to your opinion.  

If Twitter wants to be a glorified forum with politically motivated selective enforcement then that's their business.  But if it's just a forum with left-wing moderators then I'll just spend my time here instead.

Frogboy
Reply #23 Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:18 PM

ALMonty

Not to go on a political rant here, but why is one candidate scared of mail in ballots and the other candidate is not.

Maybe it's how the country has been handled in the last 6 months.

You could just as easily argue as to why one side is consistently against actions that would reduce the possibility of voter fraud.  Especially when that side tends to be in control of cities where it would be easier to exploit flaws in the system.

I didn't vote for Trump.  But I do design software systems (as you guys know).  I also design games.  So I tend to look at a given system and see how it might be exploited.  Mass mail-in votes is very exploitable.  As far as I'm concerned, that's a fact.   I don't even consider it a political issue.

If Twitter wants to be just another forum where the moderators pick and choose which tweets they're going to enforce rules on (which they do, the rule enforcement is almost always one way) then it's a private business they can do that.  I just don't want to be apart of it.  There's lots of forums that way.

Frogboy
Reply #24 Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:20 PM

Also, I don't really want to spend my time on this forum reading and participating in political debates.  If I want to listen to people who know little about a given topic but insist on espousing their hyper-partisan views I'll read Facebook. 

If someone wants to post half-baked political opinions go to JoeUser.com and it has a political area. There you can express how much you hate "the other side" all you want.

BigDogBigFeet
Reply #25 Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:40 PM

Seems like you are taking things personally Frogboy.  I expressed no hate of "the other side". 

The motivation of the messenger (with respect to Twitter here) explains much of the content of the message.

I also wish to add that states considering allowing expanded mail-in voting were doing so as a contingency in the event November brought a large pandemic outbreak.

Frogboy

If I want to listen to people who know little about a given topic

 

So, hmm the only possible explanation for those who have opinions different from your own is the above uhh?

don5318
Reply #26 Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:09 PM

Frogboy
Reply #27 Sunday, May 31, 2020 2:11 PM

BigDogBigFeet

Seems like you are taking things personally Frogboy.  I expressed no hate of "the other side". 

The motivation of the messenger (with respect to Twitter here) explains much of the content of the message.

I also wish to add that states considering allowing expanded mail-in voting were doing so as a contingency in the event November brought a large pandemic outbreak.


Quoting Frogboy,

If I want to listen to people who know little about a given topic



 

So, hmm the only possible explanation for those who have opinions different from your own is the above uhh?

Some people want to see politics everywhere they go.  I do not.  

You were the one who instantly went to "This is a ridiculous and petty justification." as a response.  Should I use my moderation powers to edit your comment based on my opinions like Twitter is doing? 

I don't *care* what your opinion is.   I'm not interested in it.  And Twitter is increasingly a dumpster fire of this kind of crap except now, we have the moderators putting their finger on the scales.  

If I want to debate politics, I have no shortage of places to go to that where the people are informed on the topics being discussed.  

BigDogBigFeet
Reply #28 Sunday, May 31, 2020 4:47 PM

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Frogboy
Reply #29 Sunday, May 31, 2020 6:14 PM

BigDogBigFeet

Twitter's policy is up to Twitter.  Are you only interested in opinions that match your own?  

You clearly know nothing about me.

 

BigDogBigFeet
Reply #30 Sunday, May 31, 2020 6:17 PM

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Frogboy
Reply #31 Sunday, May 31, 2020 6:24 PM

BTW, the point I'm making here is that it's not enjoyable to participate on a forum (such as this one in this example) if moderation appears to be selective and biased. I thought Twitter was a messaging service (a social media network).  But it is just another forum whose rules and enforcement are capriciously enforced based on the personal opinions of the moderators.   

Hopefully I've made my point. 

Chasbo
Reply #32 Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:03 PM

The problem here is what is opinion and what is fact and who is going to decide between them?

 

 

 

Jafo
Reply #33 Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:15 PM

Chasbo

The problem here is what is opinion and what is fact and who is going to decide between them?
 

Yes...that's the issue [now] with Twitter.  Wait until vested interests/owners find that one bias hits their hip pocket more than another and their 'bottom line' determines their policies.

Forums such as Joe User aren't moderated by bias, but just for spam.  I do admit to getting squeamish being in the same space as anti-vaxers and flat-earthers, but each to his own.  Stardock's rules re racial discrimination etc still apply.

Frogboy
Reply #34 Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:18 PM

Chasbo

The problem here is what is opinion and what is fact and who is going to decide between them?

That was my point.

On Twitter, apparently the moderators are going to decide what is opinion and what is fact.  Just like HERE, our moderators are the ones who do that.  And if you don't agree with the moderators, then suddenly it's a lot less fun isn't it? Just like Twitter has become a lot less fun for me.

The better solution is to not have me or anyone in that position and avoid political debates because, as I said earlier, I don't care what people's political views are. I'm not here for that.  I'm here to discuss tech, customization and games.

 

 

 

 

starkers
Reply #35 Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:36 PM

I only have one political opinion... that voting should not be compulsory.... like it is here in Australia.  I just don't like being responsible [in part] for the arseholes who get elected, break election promises and generally stuff everything up.


I do admit to getting squeamish being in the same space as anti-vaxers and flat-earthers

Anti-vaxxers you may bump into now and then, but flat-earthers you're not likely to....they all walked off the edge of the planet while trying to prove their theory.

 

alaknebs
Reply #36 Tuesday, June 16, 2020 8:33 AM

Hael-sose

I believe it is 'twat'   

 

you mangled that quote of a former british prime minister... "too many tweets makes a twat"

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