Anyone ever use StyleBuilder or StyleXP?

Tuesday, July 22, 2003 by Zodiaq~ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

Hey guys...

Just wondering if anyone ever used these programs? I was thinking about trying to make a skin using StyleBuilder. The exposure of your skinning work is like...Whoa!!!

I was just over at themexp(haven't been there forever) I just noticed Lightstar's "Forever Blue" VS and it had over 1,000,000 downloads since March 15, 2003.

Talk about exposure
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hashonboat
Reply #41 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:24 PM
Zodiaq~ (did i get the squiggly thing right?) I haven't skinned either yet but I do use a couple of those skins (cha-ninja and a couple others come to mind) I don't do the dll hack thing though . I just open them in SkinStudio and convert them to UIS2. They seem to work great except they don't skin as much. But as I hone my talents I plan to try & upgrade them to WB4 skins for my own personal use.
So, go for exposure but for purely selfish reasons I ask that you also make them for Windowblinds
kona0197
Reply #42 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:38 PM
Why do emotions get so out of control all the time?


this why I am not free to bring up stuff I want to talk about. If I do I considered a Troll. But honestly Madlce was not being nice in this thread!
MadIce
Reply #43 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:43 PM
Kona0197: I am sorry if I make you feel unsafe. Please do not be afraid to say what you want. It is not a good thing if I give you that feeling. For that I apologize.
Chickie
Reply #44 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:47 PM
Something old, something new, something borrowed, something blue...
I use WinBlinds & StyleXP. It depends what mood I'm in - cartoony (love ToonXP), dark, light, etc.
Zodiaq, ya can make WinBlinds & Style XP. Try Visual Style. It won't hurt.
kona0197
Reply #45 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:50 PM
Kona0197: I am sorry if I make you feel unsafe. Please do not be afraid to say what you want. It is not a good thing if I give you that feeling. For that I apologize.

It is not you. Trust me, I do not have a problem with anything you are anyone else does here.

It just seems i get get my head bit off when i say "mac" or things like that that others tend to not like. So I have been very quet lately. Some of my views would probably disturb a great number of people so if I shut my mouth all the better.

MadIce
Reply #46 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:03 PM
Kona0197: Try this one: Open Source.
kona0197
Reply #47 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:05 PM
NO THANKS! Tech cat already did I think!
kona0197
Reply #48 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:08 PM
Here are some subjects that I think I would get my but kicked for bringing up:

Macintosh
G5
AMD vs Intel
Gamecube
Debate in the news over Gay marriage
Iraq
Hacking
Cracking
Rips
Linux
Microsoft

...just a few!
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #49 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:09 PM
DavidK is wise beyond his years.No wait,...thats not possible.
MadIce
Reply #50 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:10 PM
Looks like you have something to do for the next couple of weeks.
I.R. Brainiac
Reply #51 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:10 PM
Sorry Madice ,...I thought it was just a simple question.Thought the comments about being Jafo's dog were out of line tho.
kona0197
Reply #52 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:11 PM
It seems like things get very personal here rather quickly. Accusations, pre-concieved notions about someone's intentions and confrontation have become a standard way of responding. I think there's an obvious problem that has to do with perspective. It's easy to loose one's perspective and take things too personally. The result is always a painful exchange that's so predictable I'm amazed how frequently it goes that way.


I knew that from day one. DTA... don't trust anyone!
MadIce
Reply #53 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:11 PM
I.R. Brainiac: I saw it coming.

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kona0197
Reply #54 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:12 PM
Looks like you have something to do for the next couple of weeks.


what do you mean?
MadIce
Reply #55 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:14 PM
kona0197: Enough subjects to keep you busy.
kona0197
Reply #56 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:21 PM
The whole point is I do not want to bring them up... to mant people would turn thoses subjects into a excuse to flame me and call me a troll!
Jafo
Reply #57 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 4:13 PM

MadIce is NOT 'Jafo's dog'.

He is a fellow site member who speaks his mind, sometimes a little more eloquently than he perhaps should, but probably due to dealing with Stardock's IRC channels and keeping them under control....

Zodiaq~ is not the first person to have a comment deleted...[in fact, I was one of the first]...nor will he be the last, undoubtedly.

Exception was taken to the choice of words, via initials and asterisked words which did precious little to mask their inherent obscenity.  That is all.

Call it 'mildly annoying', but I'm not sure what is less savoury.....the reference to Matthijs being a 'dog' and the connotations that imbues, or the insinuation that I would treat/regard a fellow human being as such.

As far as I recall, all my responses here were to explain a skinner's reasons for preferring Windowblinds over StyleXP - you know, as in the topic of the thread.  I'm still trying to work out what led to my vilification....

Tech-Cat
Reply #58 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:00 PM
As wrong as it was for Zodiaq to react the way he did, I cannot blame him. In the past I probably would have reacted the same as him. After spending more time at this site I have learned how to better respond to the kind of attacks that MadIce made against Zodiaq.
Frogboy
Reply #59 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 6:53 PM

Nothing wrong with talking about Style XP or StyleBuilder here. WinCustomize != Stardock. This is a skinning site.

Regarding ThemeXP downloads, they had problems with their download counts awhile back. I think newer skins are accurate but no, there arne't skins with millions of real downloads there.

Frogboy
Reply #60 Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:09 PM

Regarding traffic..

BTW, in terms of traffic, WinCustomzie gets vastly more traffic than ThemeXP does.  The only site that has themes on it that gets more traffic than WinCustomize is deviantART which is more of an art site. Statistically, there are no "skin" sites that get the traffic of WinCustomize on a daily basis. You can use tols like Alexa.com to view relative traffic rankings.

ThemeXP is a good site, I visit there a lot for wallpapers. But presently, msstyles are not nearly as popular as WindowBlinds skins both in terms of daily downloads as well as new skins created.  Using the way back machine...

Regarding which skin format is more popular today...

ThemeXP has about 900 msstyles now. Using the wayback machine in November 2001  they had 66. So roughly an 800 skin increase in 20 months (40 per month).

At the same time, WC had 1483 in January of 2002 and 2314 today about 900 skin difference in only 18 months (about 50 per month).

Plus there's the whole "Look, it's Luna but now it's navy blue" that so many msstyles have.  There are some excellent msstyles out there but there's a lot less variety available and fewer skins made. And since WB is a superset of msstyles, good msstyles can be brought over to WB quickly.  Msstyles has some outstanding authors such as Kol and Chaninja and some of Lightstars are good. They've done a lot with that format.

Regarding which gives the skin author more exposure... 

But if the argument is which format gives the skinner better exposure, it's a no brainer- WindowBlinds. When Microsoft wanted to promote the Xbox, it wasn't msstyles they used - it was WindowBlinds.  When Warner Bros. wanted to promote Terminator 3, they used WindowBlinds.  When Microsoft wanted to promote Rise of Nations, they again chose WindowBlinds.  And when they choose WindowBlinds, they pay authors to make the skins.  Pixtudio, Skinplant, The Skins Factory, Essorant, MikeB, and others have all seen their work put in front of many millions of people. No msstyle skin author can say the same.

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