Mountain Biker's Anonymous...
Tuesday, July 15, 2003 by Fuzzy Logic | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Bitten by the mountain biking bug? Unload your technicals in here. Anything biking goes (no roadies please...)
Do you just sit and look at it? Is it something you dream of? Tell us..
For the record then: Merlin 7005 frame, Marzocchi Z1 fork, XTR groupset, Hope disc brakes/hubs on Mavic 317 rims, Azonic double skin riser + milled 6061 stem, X-Lite seatpost and various other goodies.
What you got?
Do you just sit and look at it? Is it something you dream of? Tell us..
For the record then: Merlin 7005 frame, Marzocchi Z1 fork, XTR groupset, Hope disc brakes/hubs on Mavic 317 rims, Azonic double skin riser + milled 6061 stem, X-Lite seatpost and various other goodies.
What you got?
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Jafo
Reply #122 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:29 PM
Reply #122 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:29 PM
Practical knowledge, eg internal fillet-brazing, frame geometry and suspension methodology....an appreciation of Manganese-Molybdenum-steel [Reynolds 531] and knowledge of historical suspension design in Motorcycles...['springer forks']...and a home-made bike.
The only ready-made component of the frame was the 'unicrown' Chromolly fork, reversed, re-raked and with brazed-in suspension pivots to replace the drop-outs...
Jafo
Reply #123 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:33 PM
Reply #123 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:33 PM
Oh...and it has more than one Inch of travel...and 21 gears and drum-brakes [more immune to mud and damage than disks]...
Hus
Reply #124 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:47 PM
Reply #124 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:47 PM
How come you didn't take the design to a manufacterer, no one else had bikes like that in the 1960's?
"Hey, what kinda bike is that?"
"It's a Martin, haven't you heard? "
You might of gotten paid.
"Hey, what kinda bike is that?"
"It's a Martin, haven't you heard?
"You might of gotten paid.
Jafo
Reply #125 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:50 PM
Reply #125 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:50 PM
No...this one is about 7 years old...and it's based on another design.....
Jafo
Reply #127 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:14 PM
Reply #127 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:14 PM
Kona...it'll be 'shocking' for you...but it doesn't use 26" wheels.....but 20" [19" actual diameter], runs a Suntour freewheel [not a cassette], and the crankset is Deore, the gears are XT...Tyres are Haro free-style [slicks] and saddle is a leather Brooks Swift titanium...
Jafo
Reply #128 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:17 PM
Reply #128 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:17 PM
Oh...and the pedals.....Time Magnesium....with Greg Lemond signature Carnac shoes...[I'm a quality junkie]...
kona0197
Reply #129 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:23 PM
Reply #129 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:23 PM
i like your choices on parts. how do the brakes work? powerful as disk?
Jafo
Reply #130 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:37 PM
Reply #130 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:37 PM
Yes...the advantage of a smaller wheel diameter is the mechanical advantage of the swept brake diameter vs the wheel diameter.....a 20% smaller wheel [with the same brakes] results in an equivalent retardation improvement....the reason why 'sporty' cars have larger wheel diameter rims and lower profile tyres is [apart from the tyre wall properties] to be able to fit larger braking diameters [discs] within the hub/rim...or perhaps go to 'inboard' brakes which are not restricted by rim diameter...
kona0197
Reply #131 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:47 PM
Reply #131 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:47 PM
why isn't your cool bike assembled? I like it. I would buy it if you ever want to sell it.
Jafo
Reply #132 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:51 PM
Reply #132 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:51 PM
It's an old photo I took just after painting the frame....before final reassembly [had been road tested unpainted prior to that...as you do]....I'll take a pic of it as it is now...and post that.....conservative estimate of its price [even home-grown] is just over 5000 AUD...and unique, ergo not for sale...
kona0197
Reply #133 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:58 PM
Reply #133 Friday, August 15, 2003 6:58 PM
Very Well but it is a nice ride. BTW I found you a new spell check icon
kona0197
Reply #135 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:20 PM
Reply #135 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:20 PM
Iplural:
I can finally see why you like those Gary Fisher's. I just got done working on a Trek Fuel 90 and it rides SO nice. it has been said that the fuel and sugar are pretty much the same.
Love that Trek!
I can finally see why you like those Gary Fisher's. I just got done working on a Trek Fuel 90 and it rides SO nice. it has been said that the fuel and sugar are pretty much the same.
Love that Trek!
IPlural
Reply #136 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:31 PM
Reply #136 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:31 PM
It is a nice ride, though I haven't beat one up on a ride or anything...
There isn't anywhere in Florida to ride one really, Sand Dunes? Of course there is always the sides of Overpasses
Thats why I've the Hybrid, then again the Florida National Forest Reserve has some real good trails and such but they also have wild pig (Boars), 6 foot rattlers, moccasins, gators, bobcats, panther, bear and skunks to deal with, and the every feared Out of state hunter with the price tag twirling in the wind right below to front sight...
Had one guy blow this kid off his grandfathers lap a few years back up there, ever since I tend to stay away from it.
All the wild life and places to get out and ride are congested with so many different thing happening it is not really safe. We had three dirt bikes racing around this track in the right direction and two rail buggies some guys from out of state were racing in the wrong direction try and share the same place of existence at the same exact time, bikes lost 2 dead one quadriplegic, buggies forgiven for ignorace, tack forced to be closed to public access.
There isn't anywhere in Florida to ride one really, Sand Dunes? Of course there is always the sides of Overpasses
Thats why I've the Hybrid, then again the Florida National Forest Reserve has some real good trails and such but they also have wild pig (Boars), 6 foot rattlers, moccasins, gators, bobcats, panther, bear and skunks to deal with, and the every feared Out of state hunter with the price tag twirling in the wind right below to front sight...
Had one guy blow this kid off his grandfathers lap a few years back up there, ever since I tend to stay away from it.
All the wild life and places to get out and ride are congested with so many different thing happening it is not really safe. We had three dirt bikes racing around this track in the right direction and two rail buggies some guys from out of state were racing in the wrong direction try and share the same place of existence at the same exact time, bikes lost 2 dead one quadriplegic, buggies forgiven for ignorace, tack forced to be closed to public access.
IPlural
Reply #138 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:41 PM
Reply #138 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:41 PM
I still want one though
Eventually I want to throw the bikes on the Saburban and cross the nation and ride where we stop
Be a while, but it is something I want to do in time, almost something I have to do
Eventually I want to throw the bikes on the Saburban and cross the nation and ride where we stop
Be a while, but it is something I want to do in time, almost something I have to do
kona0197
Reply #140 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:48 PM
Reply #140 Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:48 PM
Actually i am buying from a friend. Fully loaded with a Manitou SX-LT (80mm) fork and deore componets... here is the pic...
That is NOT the actual frame but it is this same one. I got thr red one. I am going to build it up with disc rims and brakes and complete Shimano Deore componets, 27 speed.
That is NOT the actual frame but it is this same one. I got thr red one. I am going to build it up with disc rims and brakes and complete Shimano Deore componets, 27 speed.
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Reply #121 Friday, August 15, 2003 5:07 PM