Very Upset...
Tuesday, June 3, 2003 by Zodiaq~ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I would never make such a controversial statement unless I was 100% sure. I have taken and reproduced the stolen graphic many times, the pixel pattern is almost exact, it can be reproduced quite easily with just using layer styles in Photoshop.
What can I do?
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Reply #2 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 12:28 PM
It's so obvious. I can't belive someone would publish a skin here with it modified only slightly. The second I had seen it I knew exactly what it was
Reply #3 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 1:49 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 2:09 PM
Is their a list of Admins and their email addresses anywhere? I can't seem to find them. I contacted Frogboy, I'm sure he's a busy guy but I feel that this is very urgent.
Reply #5 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 2:16 PM
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Reply #9 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:05 PM
Zodiaq~....I openned your taskbar.bmp in the BluePearl WB skin and compared it with every image in the other skin and quite frankly cannot see any connection at all.
Sure, they are both a 'similar' blue with a 'similar' shiny finish, and yes, if you were so inclined you might manipulate one far enough to look like the other...just like if you apply a black fill to a white square you make the square black.....but that doesn't mean the blck and white squares are the same or even came from the same source..
It'd be easier to make the buttons yourself than to bother manipulating another's as much as these would need to be done.
If these works are from the same source, then probably 50% of the WB skins are from the same source....since so many of them have 'shiny' 'blue' buttons.
Your lowlight...20 59 149
His lowlight...51 4 128
Your hilight...160 188 250
His hilight...205 225 248
Sorry, but I'm betting there are other skins out there far closer to yours than this one...and very likely none are 'rips'.
The last issue I had to argue to convince someone of a ripped work on another site was to do with this site's Universe Metal theme....[a skin graphic I'd just been adapting myself so I knew it VERY well]...and the colour picks were IDENTICAL at every salient point which is purely impossible to fluke as there are 255x255x255 different colours....and the only difference was one image was a 256 colour gif and the other was a true colour jpg.
Unless I have got the wrong skins and images...[I referrred to the skins in the email]....this is not a case of ripping...
Reply #10 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:11 PM
Reply #11 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:15 PM
Reply #12 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:18 PM
Reply #13 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:22 PM
C'mon...seriously, is it not obvious?
Reply #15 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:31 PM
I wouldn't push the issue if I wasn't absolutely 100% positive. I feel violated.
Reply #16 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:32 PM
Reply #17 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:33 PM
Honestly I think this is a non-issue...
Reply #18 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:39 PM
Not saying that you don't know your stuff, but other opinions from fellow Admins would be a better approach then a public forum War. Which is exactly what I don't want.
Reply #19 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:44 PM
Without seeing the images in question yet, I can't comment. It's true that when you have two 'glassy' buttons there are always going to be similarities between them if both artists use a similar technique. Since I released my 'glassy' skin all those months ago I've seen a lot of skins which use a similar technique to the one I did. I wouldn't consider any of them outright rips unless the colours and pixels were exact.
Are you sure this other skinner didn't just try to mimic your method of creating a 'glassy' button by studying your images? If so, that's not considered ripping.
Reply #20 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 3:44 PM
https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=13&SkinID=2079
Sure, you can manipulate one to resemble the other...in either direction...but there is no indication that is what has happened here.
There are bevelling tools/software that can create buttons such as these....two people could quite easily use them and create identical images...but these aren't clones at all...
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Reply #1 Tuesday, June 3, 2003 12:24 PM