Object Bar pop up bars
Monday, May 26, 2003 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I, joetheblow, have the most awsome Object bar theme ever to grace object bar themes
.....
but there are two problems.
1) I can't tell the diffence in code or in the theme browser how to make a pop up that can float or be moved and one that doesn't move.
I looked at QNX theme and a regualar theme made to look like XP task bar and I can't see the difference between the two in code or in anything!
2)
I forgot what number two is... I've been trying to remeber number two and I'll post it when I do...
So does anyone here know what I am talking about??? Remember the ultimate object bar theme awaits if I can only get those 2 answers to my questions.
... remember... ultimate theme....
joetheblow
Reply #2 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:58 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:58 PM
ahhhh thanks feline!!! I would love to upload it somewhere so people can give me some hints...
I know how to make a pop up (either in the code itself or from the theme editor) but I just can't figure out how to make the pop up pull away from the theme and sit somewhere else like in the QNX theme or in Dangeruss theme Popcicle dream.
I can just copy QNX and change all the bitmaps and code and have my pop up/trip away menu but I want to know what it is so I understand it better. Some pop ups do not allow you to tear it away (it is un movable) Another theme based off of treetogs (I think) NO os theme can be dragged across the screen.
I just don't see a difference between the one that can't be moved and the one that can not ANYWHERE!!!
I know how to make a pop up (either in the code itself or from the theme editor) but I just can't figure out how to make the pop up pull away from the theme and sit somewhere else like in the QNX theme or in Dangeruss theme Popcicle dream.
I can just copy QNX and change all the bitmaps and code and have my pop up/trip away menu but I want to know what it is so I understand it better. Some pop ups do not allow you to tear it away (it is un movable) Another theme based off of treetogs (I think) NO os theme can be dragged across the screen.
I just don't see a difference between the one that can't be moved and the one that can not ANYWHERE!!!
joetheblow
Reply #3 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:59 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:59 PM
oh and by the way, I already have a theme that has CPU readings, a place to put url's, and other neat'o stuff. But that is not the Object theme.
knatzz
Reply #4 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:08 PM
Reply #4 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:08 PM
I think I know... 1. pull up the theme editor 2. highlight the bar that is to be the popup, not the popup object. 3. click the sizing and positioning tab. 4. click "auto hide" under the docking heading and choose whichever best fits. also check out more sizing and positioning options below that. Not sure if that's what your after, but hope it helps 
feline
Reply #5 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:36 AM
Reply #5 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:36 AM
joe, part of the answer lies in the fact that you can drag bars around the screen by holding down the CTRL key.
as i recall, if you look at one of the standard OB themes which have a winXP style start menu feline *shudders at the horror of this*
the start menu is made up of 4 separate bars. top, bottom, left and right. these are the 4 sections of the XP start menu blob.
somewhere in one of the skin files there are coordinates that specify where these 4 bars go on the screen.
i remember looking into this many moons ago. hang on and i will try and find the thread with the info in it
as i recall, if you look at one of the standard OB themes which have a winXP style start menu feline *shudders at the horror of this*
the start menu is made up of 4 separate bars. top, bottom, left and right. these are the 4 sections of the XP start menu blob.
somewhere in one of the skin files there are coordinates that specify where these 4 bars go on the screen.
i remember looking into this many moons ago. hang on and i will try and find the thread with the info in it
feline
Reply #6 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:49 AM
Reply #6 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 4:49 AM
feline loves being able to search for old threads!!! 
if you go to:
https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=25062
post number 6 is the info i was thinking of.
if we start there, then with luck we can get things to work fine
oh yes, you might discover that i am not a world class fan of the winXP start menu look
if you go to:
https://www.wincustomize.com/msgboard.asp?BID=WC&id=25062
post number 6 is the info i was thinking of.
if we start there, then with luck we can get things to work fine
oh yes, you might discover that i am not a world class fan of the winXP start menu look
joetheblow
Reply #7 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:04 AM
Reply #7 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:04 AM
ah yes now we are cooking with butter.
Yes I know about the coorodinates thingy... finind that little piece of info a few weeks ago allowed me to have a hidden bar go from the right side of the screen all the way to the left.
why would I do that? I' looks cool.
I forgot about the ctrl key. totally... and the sizing and positioning tab that knatzz is refering too.
I'll give the suggestions a shot and will upload THE ULTIMATE ob THEME THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN when its finished.
I wonder though how come know one else did this before? Having a bar sit on the screen to the desktop or have rip away menu items? Or even a expandable menu that sits on the desktop?
Just curious...
Yes I know about the coorodinates thingy... finind that little piece of info a few weeks ago allowed me to have a hidden bar go from the right side of the screen all the way to the left.
why would I do that? I' looks cool.
I forgot about the ctrl key. totally... and the sizing and positioning tab that knatzz is refering too.
I'll give the suggestions a shot and will upload THE ULTIMATE ob THEME THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN when its finished.
I wonder though how come know one else did this before? Having a bar sit on the screen to the desktop or have rip away menu items? Or even a expandable menu that sits on the desktop?
Just curious...
feline
Reply #9 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM
feline wonders what a desktop is
feline minimises some open windows
lets see....
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ah, i think i remember now. the desktop is that thing that stops my windows falling through to the back of the monitor
so, the simple answer, for me at least, is that anything that doesn't dock to a screen edge, look small, and be very powerful is either:
* to large
* buried under so many windows it is of no use
* both
my OB theme is very tailored to how i work. also, i have autohide bars, since they are to slow on a slow machine with lots of open windows
different people have different requirements, which is why i love OB for its configurability
Reply #9 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:35 AM
| I wonder though how come know one else did this before? Having a bar sit on the screen to the desktop or have rip away menu items? Or even a expandable menu that sits on the desktop?Just curious... |
feline wonders what a desktop is
feline minimises some open windows
lets see....
6 terminal emulator windows
excel
outlook
notepad
textpad
powerdesk
coolplayer
explorer
ah, i think i remember now. the desktop is that thing that stops my windows falling through to the back of the monitor
so, the simple answer, for me at least, is that anything that doesn't dock to a screen edge, look small, and be very powerful is either:
* to large
* buried under so many windows it is of no use
* both
my OB theme is very tailored to how i work. also, i have autohide bars, since they are to slow on a slow machine with lots of open windows
different people have different requirements, which is why i love OB for its configurability
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Reply #1 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:20 AM
do you have a copy of the classic OB theme, the one that looks like win98 / win2k ? my OB theme is based on this, and it is a good simple example showing how to do this.
in the theme editor, my start menu (win2k style) has an item called "Settings", which is of behaviour class "Popup Menu Item".
because of this, i can set (on the behaviour tab) which bar (or even bars) to popup when i activate (mouse click, keyboard enter) this item.
nice and simple, when you know to do this. of course, if you dont, it is totally confusing
with regard to the ultimate OB theme, does it contain:
* dual taskbars
* SDTaskManager plugin showing 3 different graphs
* keyboard access to my desktop shortcuts
if not, then how can it be the ultimate theme? feline already has the ultimate OB theme
there are even two flavours of it, one for work, and one for home