Tension
Saturday, May 24, 2003 by jcg | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have a theory as to why there is tension on the msg board lately. I think its because I've seen more trolls in the last week than I can count. Reacting to the trolls can be fun (I do it all the time) but one problem is I see that attitude carry over into other threads. My advice, see a troll, ignore a troll.
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craeonics
Reply #22 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:48 AM
Reply #22 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 10:48 AM
Hmm, I thought I heard something. Must've been the wind.
joetheblow
Reply #24 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:42 PM
Reply #24 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 5:42 PM
so we should have troll practice week or something?
also remeber I made a thread about Message Board Time? well now I have a new theory called Message Board History.
If its a really old thread noone remembers it.
Also, what Frogboy said about the board also holds true with other situations about human axctivity and how reactions can cause more unwanted conter reactions and soon it becomes an ungly place.
we have to take a stand and try our best not to jump on people and cause a ruckus when there is really no need.
also remeber I made a thread about Message Board Time? well now I have a new theory called Message Board History.
If its a really old thread noone remembers it.
Also, what Frogboy said about the board also holds true with other situations about human axctivity and how reactions can cause more unwanted conter reactions and soon it becomes an ungly place.
we have to take a stand and try our best not to jump on people and cause a ruckus when there is really no need.
Tech-Cat
Reply #25 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:27 PM
Reply #25 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:27 PM
"Also, what Frogboy said about the board also holds true with other situations about human axctivity and how reactions can cause more unwanted conter reactions and soon it becomes an ungly place.
we have to take a stand and try our best not to jump on people and cause a ruckus when there is really no need."
Amen to that. I wish more people here could recognize how certain actions only leads to more unwanted reactions.
we have to take a stand and try our best not to jump on people and cause a ruckus when there is really no need."
Amen to that. I wish more people here could recognize how certain actions only leads to more unwanted reactions.
CerebroJD
Reply #26 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:34 AM
Reply #26 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:34 AM
I think the definition of a troll is this:
Troll: Someone disruptive to the general environment of the messageboards, taking and giving offense at the slightest thing. The trolls occasionally make the error of talking in all CAPS. They also have been known to carry on grudges. For a long time.
Am I right?
Troll: Someone disruptive to the general environment of the messageboards, taking and giving offense at the slightest thing. The trolls occasionally make the error of talking in all CAPS. They also have been known to carry on grudges. For a long time.
Am I right?
Tech-Cat
Reply #27 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:46 AM
Reply #27 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:46 AM
A real troll is someone who is out to get people upset just for the fun of getting people upset. I find the term "troll" gets thrown around to loosely around here.
T-Man
Reply #28 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:49 AM
Reply #28 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:49 AM
Why do we need to call people "Trolls"? Why the continued name calling. Why can't they just be people with a different opinion?
It's amazing at how many people wait to jump all over people who chime in with an opinion that is different than their own. In my opinion, the people who start jumping all over "people with a different opinion" are doing a much worse diservice to the site than the "people with a different opinion" are doing. That's actually more disruptive to the general enviroment of the messageboards and quite often their posts are offensive.
CerebroJD
Reply #29 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:50 AM
Reply #29 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 5:50 AM
Yeah your right. But it does fit about 1% of the people here as was said earlier.
Lecrayon
Reply #30 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:04 AM
Reply #30 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:04 AM
Good one T-Man, let's stop name calling or labelling people.
grayhaze
Reply #31 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:34 AM
Reply #31 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:34 AM
I'd agree T-Man, if the comments these people made were actual opinions rather than comments like 'You're an idiot' or 'Screw you guys'. Okay, so the first one is an opinion... 
I don't see anyone being called a troll here who is only expressing opinions. There are a select few, most of whom have since been exiled, who use this message board as a tool to abuse others without fear of being caught.
Sometimes you get a person who mis-reads another's post and gets abusive out of defense, and it's those people who need to be taken to one side and told what's what without resorting to a simple push of the exile button.
I don't see anyone being called a troll here who is only expressing opinions. There are a select few, most of whom have since been exiled, who use this message board as a tool to abuse others without fear of being caught.
Sometimes you get a person who mis-reads another's post and gets abusive out of defense, and it's those people who need to be taken to one side and told what's what without resorting to a simple push of the exile button.
Tech-Cat
Reply #32 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:16 AM
Reply #32 Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:16 AM
T-Man: "It's amazing at how many people wait to jump all over people who chime in with an opinion that is different than their own. In my opinion, the people who start jumping all over "people with a different opinion" are doing a much worse diservice to the site than the "people with a different opinion" are doing. That's actually more disruptive to the general enviroment of the messageboards and quite often their posts are offensive."
You are right T-Man. As Frogboy said before, people should be free to express their opinions here with the boundaries to do so as wide as possible. There is a big difference between just going to a site to upset people just for the heck of it and presenting an oposing view point to add to the conversation. It would be boring around here if only people who agreed on certain issues were allowed to post here. It is more fun when diversity of opinions are allowed.
You are right T-Man. As Frogboy said before, people should be free to express their opinions here with the boundaries to do so as wide as possible. There is a big difference between just going to a site to upset people just for the heck of it and presenting an oposing view point to add to the conversation. It would be boring around here if only people who agreed on certain issues were allowed to post here. It is more fun when diversity of opinions are allowed.
Anthony R
Reply #33 Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:28 AM
Good morning
#define Troll
Do you define a troll as someone who was curious enough to take time out of their life to read your post? Do you define a troll as being someone who actually replied to your exalted words? It is amazing how a message board that is supposed to be related to Stardock stuff can become territorial property to someone who spends a lot of time here. It is even worse when a mob mentality created by an instigating and exclusionary force forms around new guests that may visit here.
Reply #33 Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:28 AM
| by Skinner jcg - 5/24/2003 10:52:37 AM I have a theory as to why there is tension on the msg board lately. I think its because I've seen more trolls in the last week than I can count. |
Good morning
#define Troll
Do you define a troll as someone who was curious enough to take time out of their life to read your post? Do you define a troll as being someone who actually replied to your exalted words? It is amazing how a message board that is supposed to be related to Stardock stuff can become territorial property to someone who spends a lot of time here. It is even worse when a mob mentality created by an instigating and exclusionary force forms around new guests that may visit here.
jcg
Reply #34 Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:34 AM
A troll is someone who strives for contraversy for contraversy's sake. Someone who deliberately uses a belligerent or aggressive tone in order to get a rise from the reader. Someone who inserts themselves into a thread in order to disrupt it.
Nice try though.
Reply #34 Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:34 AM
| Do you define a troll as someone who was curious enough to take time out of their life to read your post? Do you define a troll as being someone who actually replied to your exalted words? |
A troll is someone who strives for contraversy for contraversy's sake. Someone who deliberately uses a belligerent or aggressive tone in order to get a rise from the reader. Someone who inserts themselves into a thread in order to disrupt it.
Nice try though.
Tech-Cat
Reply #35 Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:39 AM
Reply #35 Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:39 AM
Anthony Robert sounds kind of upset to me. I wonder if he was exiled under a different name.
docster
Reply #37 Saturday, May 31, 2003 2:35 AM
Reply #37 Saturday, May 31, 2003 2:35 AM
I also shun labeling here, a behavior partially derived from years on Fidonet. Personally, I've been laboring under the connotation of "troll" as a malevolent, dwarfish type who lived under a bridge. I've not ascertained that we've many bridge-dwellers here 'bouts....
craeonics
Reply #38 Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:30 AM
Reply #38 Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:30 AM
Nah, it's actually a large Ogre-esque creature, which has the strange habit of turning into stone when the light hits it.
Anyhow, T-Man's right in saying that people shouldn't label or jump on people with differing opinions, but such is the Way of Man.
Anyhow, T-Man's right in saying that people shouldn't label or jump on people with differing opinions, but such is the Way of Man.
Tech-Cat
Reply #39 Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:30 AM
Reply #39 Saturday, May 31, 2003 5:30 AM
Why does the word "troll" have to have negative connotations? I remember when I was younger, the troll dolls from the magic shop were very popular and it was my belief that my troll brought me good luck.
queezendorf
Reply #40 Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:57 AM
Reply #40 Saturday, May 31, 2003 6:57 AM
I feel like this is leading to some form of religious/moral construction, and if it is.. i don't want to be part of it.
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Reply #21 Tuesday, May 27, 2003 6:54 AM