Site with probable ripped collection of skins and walls

Saturday, May 24, 2003 by Chris | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

This site has very recognizable skins and walls. It's in Russian so I have no idea what it says.

The main site is here: http://www.soladesign.net

but has two subpages (that seem to share the same data but with different page layouts) that have well known skins and suites mostly by Treetog/Pixtudio, as well Dangeruss, Mercury, Mormegil and so on. I recognize the walls as well.

You can find them on this page: http://www.soladesign.net/light/light_index.htm
and on this page: http://www.soladesign.net/br/main.html
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Zodiaq~
Reply #1 Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:46 AM
Doesn't really look like a rip to me. The authors were given credit and their names were all over the screen shots.

Of course I don't speak Russian either, I'm sure that would clarify a few things


Koasati
Reply #2 Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:52 AM

Compare your second link to DavidK's site   http://www.lightstreamdesign.com/

grrrrrrrrr


moshi
Reply #3 Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:59 AM
oh well, she (Olya is a girls name) did not seem to be so bad as she gives credits and also reviews the skinnable apps ...
but now it looks like she took David´s webdesign and built a site around it ...

Koasati
Reply #4 Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:31 AM
No credits on any of the WindowBlinds, HoverDesk, BeatNik, a few of the ICQ Plus skins, and probably more (haven't looked at everything)..........................  and moshi, you know very well , that giving credit isn't the same thing as having permission.

jcg
Reply #5 Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:34 AM
Not being able to read Russian, I know I'm risking looking foolish, but, it appeared to me that a lot of the links linked back to th original sites (Stardock, PixStudio, etc.). It looks like a resource site to me, just a portal.

jcg
Reply #6 Saturday, May 24, 2003 9:37 AM
I take it back. The skins are not linked back, just the apps.
[Message Edited]

Styl-X Design
Reply #7 Saturday, May 24, 2003 11:33 AM
I am not sure, but one of the designs look very familair... MORE THEN VERY.
I will check it up later, but I think the design is a rip....
not certain about this in anyway...

Styl-X Design
Reply #8 Saturday, May 24, 2003 11:35 AM
and about that credit is given to the authors ( post #1)
that dasn't matter, if they dont have written permissions for it, its still stealing.

Zodiaq~
Reply #9 Saturday, May 24, 2003 12:37 PM
and about that credit is given to the authors ( post #1)
that dasn't matter, if they dont have written permissions for it, its still stealing.


I'm a skinner I understand that. That is why I said perhaps if I understood Russian it my clarify.


moshi
Reply #10 Sunday, May 25, 2003 6:00 AM
Koasati: yes, correct, i only saw the ICQ+ skins first. looks like some community effort gone wrong.
the worst thing is stealing David´s site design ...
anybody mailed her yet?

Alexandrie
Reply #11 Sunday, May 25, 2003 6:44 AM
my gosh they ripped Davidk

Styl-X Design
Reply #12 Sunday, May 25, 2003 7:14 AM
I was right about that? sjeez, seriouse spend too much time on the internet...

BoXXi
Reply #13 Sunday, May 25, 2003 10:28 AM
There's some of my stuff on there too.....>

Styl-X Design
Reply #14 Sunday, May 25, 2003 10:38 AM
suw them boxxi! bring them to court!

no, for seriouse, you guys think you would win if you made this a legal case?

DavidK
Reply #15 Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:35 PM

jeesh... I just saw this.

I emailed her and left a note on her guestbook (probably deleted by now). I'm amazed at the lack of integrity I see so often. She stole the graphics and coding for my site and then puts a copyright notice that it all belongs to her. She even stole my logo.

Nothing on her site is her own work, she's a total fraud as so many in Russia today are. It's really sad how much theft I see on .ru addresses. 

Styl - I dislike litigation for any reason. Why is it so common to say 'sue them' when anything happens? There are plenty of ways to resolve issues without making some lawyers richer. And to answer your question, no I don't think suing a fraud in Russia would get any results other than a huge bill from your lawyer and probably a counter-lawsuite from a Russian lawyer who will also get paid by you.

 


DavidK
Reply #16 Sunday, May 25, 2003 1:52 PM
Created by Sola Design
Studio
 
She says in several places that she created the artwork. She sells these designs (if you want to buy) and offers others for free so anyone can use them (!).  Her wallpaper and skins libraries are all familiar work from our community (even some of my skins) and she takes credit for all of it (she says "these are my wallpapers"). Makes it easy to get a design company going if you can just take other people's work and sell it as your own.
 
I think this has been there for a long time. I didn't ever finish my site, I haven't updated anything for a couple years. Maybe I should hire her to finish my site...

JamMeister33
Reply #17 Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:12 PM
Well all I can say is you have a refreshing attitude, DavidK.... kudos to you for staying so calm about this...

Alexandrie
Reply #18 Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:26 PM
hehehehe

DavidK
Reply #19 Sunday, May 25, 2003 2:28 PM
My email got bounced back (in Russian) and now my client machine, the one I've been working on, won't stay connected to my network. I'm in the middle of 3 projects that all have a deadline of Monday so I can't deal with any of this right now. I'm gonna shut off my modem and get back to work. I'll check in later after I figure out if my firewall got hacked and after I get some work done...

Jafo
Reply #20 Sunday, May 25, 2003 6:37 PM

Oh, sod it....I bet she's related to Vladimir Tereschenko...the lovely Ruskie who successfully stole everything Pixtudio ever did [almost].

I doubt I could convey exactly how utterly tired of all this I am at the moment.

We get indignation over comparative trivialities, even oversights here at Wincusto, yet blatant, utter disregard for others' property occurs almost universally.

It takes a lot of time, effort and thought to mount a successful campaign to right these wrongs, and more and more I'm feeling I can't spread myself round thinly enough to deal with every one of them.  Others need to show equivalent conviction to help thwart our society's rippers.

I've done so much of this bull-shit that I now have a separate email folder titled 'rip crap' so my general mail is more manageable.

At this moment I am over my 3gig limit for the month, so at 15 cents a meg I'll be waiting till June before chasing this next 'Commie bastard without a clue'

Fear not, though, Dave.....I'll have her gonads on toast soon enough...


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