EVERYONE: TAKE A CHILL PILL...
Friday, April 25, 2003 by Frogboy | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Okay, everyone who's been getting mad, upset, or whatever, please listen up.
1) This forum is for the discussion of skinning and skinning issues. Users can certainly about pretty much anything they like. However, thread hijacking (that is, going into a thread and making completely off topic posts over an dover) is prohibited.
2) Let's try to be NICE to one another. This site is overwhelmingly populated by adults. Let's treat one another with respect and kindness okay? If someone doesn't agree with you, debate is certainly encouraged to a degree. But at a certain point, if you're starting to get angry about it, you know it's time to back off. Whether it be politics or religion or whatever, it's not like any of us are overlords of the universe who get to set universal policy.
3) Melodrama. One of the things I've seen lately is an increase in melodramatic behavior. The forum shouldn't be used as an outlet for one's psychosis or histrionics. If someone wants to create a thread about something completely off the wall, that's fine. But personal emotional melodrama getting interjected into other people's topics must cease now.
I will not be exiling people for violating this. Instead, I will be setting people's access to visitor which essentially removes their ability to post.
Let's get back to talking about fun, interesting stuff in the world of skinning, customziation, computers, technology, whatever okay?
Thanks!
Brad Wardell
CEO of Stardock & WinCustomize
1) This forum is for the discussion of skinning and skinning issues. Users can certainly about pretty much anything they like. However, thread hijacking (that is, going into a thread and making completely off topic posts over an dover) is prohibited.
2) Let's try to be NICE to one another. This site is overwhelmingly populated by adults. Let's treat one another with respect and kindness okay? If someone doesn't agree with you, debate is certainly encouraged to a degree. But at a certain point, if you're starting to get angry about it, you know it's time to back off. Whether it be politics or religion or whatever, it's not like any of us are overlords of the universe who get to set universal policy.
3) Melodrama. One of the things I've seen lately is an increase in melodramatic behavior. The forum shouldn't be used as an outlet for one's psychosis or histrionics. If someone wants to create a thread about something completely off the wall, that's fine. But personal emotional melodrama getting interjected into other people's topics must cease now.
I will not be exiling people for violating this. Instead, I will be setting people's access to visitor which essentially removes their ability to post.
Let's get back to talking about fun, interesting stuff in the world of skinning, customziation, computers, technology, whatever okay?
Thanks!
Brad Wardell
CEO of Stardock & WinCustomize
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Frogboy
Reply #42 Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:24 AM
Reply #42 Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:24 AM
Ultimately, we do have some say on our own message board. No one is going to force anyone to change their behavior. It's just that those who can't participate maturely will not be allowed to post on our forum.
There is a general misconception about "Freedom of Speech". Ones rights end when they infringe upon another's. People who hijack threads, make personal attacks, and so forth are infringing on other people's rights.
Think of this post as a friendly advisory to those who have slowly, IMO, turned this message board into an unpleasant experience. I tend to side with those who have found this message board less friendly and less constructive as of late.
There is a general misconception about "Freedom of Speech". Ones rights end when they infringe upon another's. People who hijack threads, make personal attacks, and so forth are infringing on other people's rights.
Think of this post as a friendly advisory to those who have slowly, IMO, turned this message board into an unpleasant experience. I tend to side with those who have found this message board less friendly and less constructive as of late.
skinnaboy
Reply #43 Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:28 AM
Reply #43 Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:28 AM
Right ON! I've been waiting for some one to leash-out on some of the non-sense going on here that has nothing to do with skinning or product help. 
Stumpy
Reply #45 Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:44 AM
Reply #45 Saturday, April 26, 2003 10:44 AM
Ok, I understand, and please forgive a dumb Englishman on the point about "Freedom Of Speech", and as long as I don't have to change from being a fun loving dummy, I'm fine with what you are trying to do, thanks again 
sig101
Reply #46 Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:44 PM
Reply #46 Saturday, April 26, 2003 12:44 PM
Skinnaboy: My understanding is that the topics here are not strictly limited to skinning or product help. Although people help out when they can with various products, I've repeatedly seen people advised that this is message board is not a replacement for the Stardock support newsgroups or direct Stardock product support.
So some "nonsense" i.e., topics not strictly related to skinning or product help are allowed. For example, look at some of the threads Frogboy himself has started.
So some "nonsense" i.e., topics not strictly related to skinning or product help are allowed. For example, look at some of the threads Frogboy himself has started.
feline
Reply #47 Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:20 PM
Reply #47 Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:20 PM
the real problem with product support question threads is when people get upset that they didnt get any support from stardock.
the other point is i get fed up seeing threads called "help", or variants on that theme
the other point is i get fed up seeing threads called "help", or variants on that theme
sig101
Reply #48 Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:50 PM
Reply #48 Saturday, April 26, 2003 1:50 PM
I also see a problem when people expect support for some SD product problem here and get upset when no one here evidently can provide it. Especially if they haven't yet tried the newsgroups and SD support. People here will help out when they can, but this really isn't a dedicated SD support venue.
Lady_Akasha
Reply #49 Saturday, April 26, 2003 2:01 PM
Reply #49 Saturday, April 26, 2003 2:01 PM
Got it, read it, understood it. 
I don't post much on these things, only recently started peeking into them. So I don't really know what has been 'happening'.
However, I would like to address River from the first page. Hon, I really doubt that this was about,yesterday, if so-- damn? :not sure: I haven't seen you cause any real trouble, and I haven't either. So don't worry about that.
Now, the other thing, I already commented to you on my comments section for Whisper. But, in case you don't read that one, I'll say it here too, since I read what you posted on this thread. The jist is; S'cool. I don't hate you. I don't think you're a meany, or anything like that. You said what you felt, I said my peace. It's done...
I don't want to take up a ton of space on this thread, so go read my reply or email me.
I don't post much on these things, only recently started peeking into them. So I don't really know what has been 'happening'.
However, I would like to address River from the first page. Hon, I really doubt that this was about,yesterday, if so-- damn? :not sure: I haven't seen you cause any real trouble, and I haven't either. So don't worry about that.
Now, the other thing, I already commented to you on my comments section for Whisper. But, in case you don't read that one, I'll say it here too, since I read what you posted on this thread. The jist is; S'cool. I don't hate you. I don't think you're a meany, or anything like that. You said what you felt, I said my peace. It's done...
I don't want to take up a ton of space on this thread, so go read my reply
or email me.
Paul Williams
Reply #50 Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:03 PM
Reply #50 Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:03 PM
wow! he must have moved up in the world. i did not realize he was CEO and owned this site.
river55IL
Reply #52 Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:08 PM
Reply #52 Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:08 PM
Thank you, Lady Akaska, that's a load off of my mind.
BTW, I'm not a "gentleman" I'm a "lady", too. A 48 years old Grandma.
Anyhoo, I'm glad things are ok now.
BTW, I'm not a "gentleman" I'm a "lady", too. A 48 years old Grandma.
Anyhoo, I'm glad things are ok now.
c242
Reply #53 Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:45 AM
Reply #53 Sunday, April 27, 2003 4:45 AM
I still think a somewhat structured messageboard (more like a forum) would solve some of the problems mentioned above. I am still for combining this board and the newsgroups into a real forum to make things easier for newbies. There is the newsgroups (which not many people frequent lately imo) then there is this messageboard (that I don't consider as so much of help for a help-seeking newbie because all threads are thrown together. Just my 2 cents.
KarmaGirl
Reply #54 Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:05 AM
Reply #54 Sunday, April 27, 2003 8:05 AM
sig101 and feline, you are absolutely correct about getting product support on this site. If there is an issue, it needs to be directed toward Stardock Support. The boards are helpful for how to configure products (Basically how to use features) or things related to how to skin or make themes.
Paul Williams: "wow! he must have moved up in the world. i did not realize he was CEO and owned this site."
Stardock is a privately owned corporation. It has always been owned by Brad Wardell (Frogboy). WinCustomize is owned and primarily funded by Stardock.
Paul Williams: "wow! he must have moved up in the world. i did not realize he was CEO and owned this site."
Stardock is a privately owned corporation. It has always been owned by Brad Wardell (Frogboy). WinCustomize is owned and primarily funded by Stardock.
blindbatt
Reply #56 Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:26 AM
Reply #56 Sunday, April 27, 2003 11:26 AM
Thank you, Brad. What took so long? We all need a reality check, from time to time. When the "head man" says cut it out, then; "cut it out"... 
Frogboy
Reply #57 Monday, April 28, 2003 9:55 AM I've been pretty busy lately over at GalCiv.com (https://www.galciv.com). The forums there are even busier than the ones here. Then I start looking over here and there's all this melodramatic nonsense and topic hijacking and just an undercurrent of meanness. Can't have that.
Reply #57 Monday, April 28, 2003 9:55 AM
I've been pretty busy lately over at GalCiv.com (https://www.galciv.com). The forums there are even busier than the ones here. Then I start looking over here and there's all this melodramatic nonsense and topic hijacking and just an undercurrent of meanness. Can't have that.
Bangkokboy
Reply #58 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:15 PM
Reply #58 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:15 PM
undercurrent my foot!
things do seem to be calming down a lot.
things do seem to be calming down a lot.
grayhaze
Reply #59 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:19 PM
Reply #59 Tuesday, April 29, 2003 4:19 PM
Brad, I took a chill pill and it's brought me out in all these purple-blue lumps. I prefer lime green, so could you make a custom colour version of the pill?
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Reply #41 Saturday, April 26, 2003 7:46 AM
Will notice be taken? Perhaps not, but the warning is there (in all caps no less).