Wats better.... Paintshop Pro or Photoshop??
Sunday, April 20, 2003 by DMX143637 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Wats better for making wallpapers in your opinion?....
Paintshop Pro or Photoshop??
Paintshop Pro or Photoshop??
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wombat_1
Reply #22 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:55 AM
Reply #22 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:55 AM
Youji, no 'free' upgrades from Jasc but their pre-release upgrade price is fair enough.
You might find it a good idea not to mention where the PS6 proggie came from BTW ....
One of the quirks about PS users ... many use it in the workplace .... very few I know (in Australia) will ante up the A$1500.00+ price out of their own pockets!
You might find it a good idea not to mention where the PS6 proggie came from BTW ....
One of the quirks about PS users ... many use it in the workplace .... very few I know (in Australia) will ante up the A$1500.00+ price out of their own pockets!
Jafo
Reply #23 Monday, April 21, 2003 7:19 AM
Reply #23 Monday, April 21, 2003 7:19 AM
I only load PS to apply lens-flares and other groovy filters so I can be a 1337 artiste <---- the 'e' is important...
Jafo
Reply #24 Monday, April 21, 2003 7:20 AM
Reply #24 Monday, April 21, 2003 7:20 AM
I only load PS to apply lens-flares and other groovy filters so I can be a 1337 artiste <---- the 'e' is important...
bakerstreet
Reply #26 Monday, April 21, 2003 11:51 AM
Reply #26 Monday, April 21, 2003 11:51 AM
Once they peel the $649 US out of your fingers, PS isn't all that bad, just $129 for upgrades, ($149 if you pay high retail). I think 8.0 is supoposed to come out this fall. I'm gonna watch the support forums at Adobe really, really close this time.
Matt Odegard
Reply #27 Monday, April 21, 2003 4:19 PM
Reply #27 Monday, April 21, 2003 4:19 PM
Photoshop
If for only one reason ACTIONS, and then keyboard shortcuts. They are essential to me. If I don't make them I download them. Time is money and ACTIONS saves me a whole lot of money. PS with Eye Candy 4000 is nice and about with every other plugin, you can do just about anything. I love it. Of course I haven't had the pleasure of PSP.
Here is a link to a great place for everything PS. Which I'm sure all serious PS's know of
http://share.studio.adobe.com/axBrowseProduct.asp?p=2
If for only one reason ACTIONS, and then keyboard shortcuts. They are essential to me. If I don't make them I download them. Time is money and ACTIONS saves me a whole lot of money. PS with Eye Candy 4000 is nice and about with every other plugin, you can do just about anything. I love it. Of course I haven't had the pleasure of PSP.
Here is a link to a great place for everything PS. Which I'm sure all serious PS's know of
http://share.studio.adobe.com/axBrowseProduct.asp?p=2
paxx
Reply #28 Monday, April 21, 2003 4:49 PM
Reply #28 Monday, April 21, 2003 4:49 PM
Not sure about actions, but Paintshop Pro supports the Photoshop plugins.
moshi
Reply #29 Monday, April 21, 2003 4:54 PM
Reply #29 Monday, April 21, 2003 4:54 PM
paxx: not all of them, some run on PS only. and errrm, plugins are not really cool ... EyeCandy bevels are a horror.
paxx
Reply #30 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:04 PM
Reply #30 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:04 PM
Agree, I really hate all the plugins I've tried, except those that come with Photoshop. The bevels are actually nice, and so are the drop shadows.
Matt Odegard
Reply #31 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:24 PM
Reply #31 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:24 PM
Well, I like most of the plugins I have. Of course I haven't used every aspect of them all. But I haven't had a problem with Eye Candy yet.
Jafo
Reply #32 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:31 PM
Reply #32 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:31 PM
Now...if only one of them was a dolphin-generating plugin...and a palm-tree filter....ooh what joy...
moshi
Reply #33 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:37 PM
Reply #33 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:37 PM
not talking about problems with EyeCandy, but it´s way overused.
Paul Williams
Reply #34 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:46 PM
Reply #34 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:46 PM
sounds like they are both too expensive for me.
bakerstreet
Reply #35 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:51 PM
Reply #35 Monday, April 21, 2003 5:51 PM
I got my first copy of Photoshop used on Ebay from a student that no longer needed it for about what PSP costs now. I wouldn't advise doing that anymore, though. The last three DVDs I have bought have ended up being bad pirate jobs. I would assume the software isn't much different these days.
paxx
Reply #36 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:15 PM
Reply #36 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:15 PM
Paul, try the GIMP. It's free and really it's as good as Photoshop. It's even superior in some degrees as it has a scripting capabilities for making your own filters and such. There are sites where you can download other people's scripts. It bit like Photoshop's actions, but much more powerfull.
The only problem with the Gimp is its learning curve. A bit steep. But once you get the hang of site, the sky's the limit.
Other limitation: no CMYK. But if you don't do professional print jobs, you don't need it.
The only problem with the Gimp is its learning curve. A bit steep. But once you get the hang of site, the sky's the limit.
Other limitation: no CMYK. But if you don't do professional print jobs, you don't need it.
moshi
Reply #38 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:24 PM
Reply #38 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:24 PM
i use The GIMP and it´s not as good as Photoshop, but definately better than most commercial bitmap editors.
here´s the link to the installer (for MS Windows): http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/
here´s the link to the installer (for MS Windows): http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/
paxx
Reply #39 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:35 PM
Reply #39 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:35 PM
Well, for 90% of the people, it's just as good. And the scripts are a cool addition. 
paxx
Reply #40 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:36 PM
Reply #40 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:36 PM
I use the Gimp when I'm on my Linux partition, and I still don't quite understand it all. I'm so used to Photoshop, it's hard to switch. Gimp is sooo different.
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Reply #21 Monday, April 21, 2003 6:06 AM
but sure, for most skinning things PSP will be enough. i have seen quite a few really amazing Winamp2 skins done with MS Paint, but those of course were only done for the callenge
i´m rather sure though that 90% of the really high class wallpapers (not the Bryce stuff here, more Shinter-esque stuff) were done in Photoshop, just because it has far better layer handling.