HoverWeather
Tuesday, April 15, 2003 by Halcon_1 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Why is it that I can get the skins but, the program is nowhere to be found?
brazil
Reply #2 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:56 PM
Reply #2 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:56 PM
Yahoo Weather + HoverDesk = Not Happening,,If I'm not mistaken.Greed wins again.
Styl-X Design
Reply #3 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:22 PM
Reply #3 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:22 PM
Maby the name is hoverweather, did you get the skin here on wc?
if not, just searsch for hoverdesk...
if not, just searsch for hoverdesk...
Styl-X Design
Reply #5 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:02 PM
Reply #5 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:02 PM
then he has to tell atleast what kind of extension beyond the filename is...
Shakey (the Original)
Reply #6 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:45 PM
Reply #6 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 11:45 PM
I miss Hoverweather. Anyone know of a nice skinnable desktop weather client? I have Samurize set up to check the weather, but it just isn't the same.
MarkMcQ
Reply #7 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:59 AM
Reply #7 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 6:59 AM
Hoverweather isn't available for download anymore. Thib has had to pull it as the director of Yahoo Weather mailed him and requested he not use Yahoo for the info.
joetheblow
Reply #9 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:35 AM
Reply #9 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:35 AM
Well, I wonder if they ever thought they could use this skinnable feature thing to promote Yahoo!? It must have not crossed there mind. Too bad though, cause it was a nice app. I had hover skins in the hover wings for it. I guess it is null and void now.
joetheblow
Reply #10 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:38 AM
Reply #10 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 8:38 AM
BTW
It might not be greed. The music indrustry is a good example. They want to put there music online, but there are so many contracts, sub companies, and sub sub companies with contracs thats it became a nightmare.
Cable could be another example.
So its not always greed, cause they might actually want it to happen, but can't do it for one reason or another.
It might not be greed. The music indrustry is a good example. They want to put there music online, but there are so many contracts, sub companies, and sub sub companies with contracs thats it became a nightmare.
Cable could be another example.
So its not always greed, cause they might actually want it to happen, but can't do it for one reason or another.
brazil
Reply #11 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:13 AM
Reply #11 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:13 AM
From what I understand,when HoverWeather went on-line,the Bandwidth Hog at Yahoo Weather started to want even more to eat than his usual gruel.So in a shut nell,be sure to have all yer t's crossed and yer I's dotted BEFORE you start sucking other peoples BW.
bakerstreet
Reply #12 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:35 AM
Reply #12 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:35 AM
I posted a string related to weather info a few months back. As far as I know, there is no free-use weather polling. Weather dot com, the NOAA, yahoo, none of them will really tolerate the kind of hits weather software require.
I dunno about hoverweather, but a lot of news/weather polling software updates every three minutes by default. That is 20 hits per hour, per user. If 5,000 people use your software, that is 100,000 hits per hour. 2 and a half million hits a day that never even visits your site. Even when you give people the option of changing how often they update, most crank it back down to minute-by-minute.
If they offered a tiny xml file with the current info, like RSS, it would be one thing, but most software has to grab the entire webpage and parse out the info. I just checked the weather dot come page and it returned 52k worth of plain html, no images. That would be a lot of transfer given the numbers above.
I don't foresee any weather program being viable unless they pay for the information. There was a lot I was gonna do with scripting in that regard, but there wasn't much point.
I dunno about hoverweather, but a lot of news/weather polling software updates every three minutes by default. That is 20 hits per hour, per user. If 5,000 people use your software, that is 100,000 hits per hour. 2 and a half million hits a day that never even visits your site. Even when you give people the option of changing how often they update, most crank it back down to minute-by-minute.
If they offered a tiny xml file with the current info, like RSS, it would be one thing, but most software has to grab the entire webpage and parse out the info. I just checked the weather dot come page and it returned 52k worth of plain html, no images. That would be a lot of transfer given the numbers above.
I don't foresee any weather program being viable unless they pay for the information. There was a lot I was gonna do with scripting in that regard, but there wasn't much point.
bakerstreet
Reply #13 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:39 AM
Reply #13 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 11:39 AM
weather dot com(-e) ... pesky spell checker...
pjpowell
Reply #14 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:11 PM
Reply #14 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:11 PM
I was wondering about a server run by someone in the community (that could take the hits) that pulls the info once from yahoo or wherever. Of course finding someone who has the bandwidth for something like that is the problem.
bakerstreet
Reply #15 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:24 PM
Reply #15 Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:24 PM
I thought of that, too, but the weather page for every zip code and location in the world is different. The central server would have to poll the locale of everyone with the software.
I suppose you could get that info into a database when people register, and then let the server script grab the info into a database that could be queried by the app. People would have to be able to change their registered locale. It would mean a sizable amount of activity for the developer after the software is finished, and the hits on the developers server would be just as high. It would reduce the amount transfered, though.
The goofy part about people setting the refresh to 3 minutes is that the weather servers don't update their information any more than once an hour, and sometimes they lag for an hour or three between updates.
I suppose you could get that info into a database when people register, and then let the server script grab the info into a database that could be queried by the app. People would have to be able to change their registered locale. It would mean a sizable amount of activity for the developer after the software is finished, and the hits on the developers server would be just as high. It would reduce the amount transfered, though.
The goofy part about people setting the refresh to 3 minutes is that the weather servers don't update their information any more than once an hour, and sometimes they lag for an hour or three between updates.
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Reply #1 Tuesday, April 15, 2003 9:05 PM