ObjectBars & Windows 2000 & System Tray
Monday, April 7, 2003 by MrDigital1 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Hello everybody, I'm relatively new to Objects Desktop but have just finished creating my first ObjectsBar, however I cannot get the System Tray function to work under Windows 2000 Pro. I was hoping somebody had a quick solution or if I am kind of out of luck for now. I'm using version 1.55, I haven't tried the Beta version yet but I didn't see anything specific about Win2k on the History for it. Thanks for the advice.
P.S. Maybe I'm just setting it up wrong? Anything is possible.
--MrDigital
P.S. Maybe I'm just setting it up wrong? Anything is possible.
--MrDigital
MrDigital1
Reply #2 Monday, April 7, 2003 4:59 PM
Reply #2 Monday, April 7, 2003 4:59 PM
I have rebooted, twice at least.
I can't find anything on TrayServer, the only option I find in OB is to disable it upon startup which is not checked.
I do not even have Desktop X downloaded
I went ahead and upgraded to the Beta 1.6, still not working.
I have a System Tray in my theme, it is not visible anywhere but in my theme setup (which even kind of looks greyed out) Stuff above and below the System Tray shows up fine with a hole in between.
Only the whole bar is AutoHiding which the Tray is part of.
--MrDigital
I can't find anything on TrayServer, the only option I find in OB is to disable it upon startup which is not checked.
I do not even have Desktop X downloaded
I went ahead and upgraded to the Beta 1.6, still not working.
I have a System Tray in my theme, it is not visible anywhere but in my theme setup (which even kind of looks greyed out) Stuff above and below the System Tray shows up fine with a hole in between.
Only the whole bar is AutoHiding which the Tray is part of.
--MrDigital
feline
Reply #3 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:33 PM
Reply #3 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:33 PM
odd, quite odd.
have you tried the XP or win classic style themes that come with OB? does the system tray work in those themes?
theory a, it is a problem in all themes
theory b, it is a problem in your theme only.
as for trayserver, look in:
c:\program files\common files\stardock\trayserver.exe
if it isnt there, then there is a bit of a problem
have you tried the XP or win classic style themes that come with OB? does the system tray work in those themes?
theory a, it is a problem in all themes
theory b, it is a problem in your theme only.
as for trayserver, look in:
c:\program files\common files\stardock\trayserver.exe
if it isnt there, then there is a bit of a problem
MrDigital1
Reply #4 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:48 PM
Reply #4 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:48 PM
Well, I have NO trayserver.exe anywhere on me computer, I tried uninstalling OB and reinstall and I still don't have it. Any suggestions where I can get this file besides through SD Central? Thanks for your help Feline.
feline
Reply #5 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:25 PM
Reply #5 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:25 PM
i have just checked. on my machine it is "TrayServer.exe"
size 81,920
this isnt so good. have you uninstalled OB via SC, and then reinstalled it? any errors from the SC install?
there is supposed to be a web page at stardock where you can get links to exe installers for the Object Desktop components. however, i dont know the URL off hand, and have never used it.
if that doesnt work, you could try downloading and installing the trial version (full stand alone exe version) of OB.
that should install trayserver. then all we need to do is uninstall OB trial, install full OB, and keep trayserver installed and working.
either way, worth emailing details of this problem to [email protected] so they can look into it.
depending on where SC and OB are installed, you could try looking for "ob.log"
this is the log of the install created by SC when it installed OB.
by the looks of it, it didnt download trayserver for me either on the last update. but since i already had trayserver installed and running, i was ok.
anyway, enough from me for tonight. i need sleep. i will check back tommorow, and see how you are doing.
size 81,920
this isnt so good. have you uninstalled OB via SC, and then reinstalled it? any errors from the SC install?
there is supposed to be a web page at stardock where you can get links to exe installers for the Object Desktop components. however, i dont know the URL off hand, and have never used it.
if that doesnt work, you could try downloading and installing the trial version (full stand alone exe version) of OB.
that should install trayserver. then all we need to do is uninstall OB trial, install full OB, and keep trayserver installed and working.
either way, worth emailing details of this problem to [email protected] so they can look into it.
depending on where SC and OB are installed, you could try looking for "ob.log"
this is the log of the install created by SC when it installed OB.
by the looks of it, it didnt download trayserver for me either on the last update. but since i already had trayserver installed and running, i was ok.
anyway, enough from me for tonight. i need sleep. i will check back tommorow, and see how you are doing.
feline
Reply #6 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:36 PM
Reply #6 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:36 PM
last post for tonight.
sudden flash of inspiration. DesktopX should install trayserver.exe for you. no need to run DX, just so long as trayserver is there, OB should be able to use it fine
sudden flash of inspiration. DesktopX should install trayserver.exe for you. no need to run DX, just so long as trayserver is there, OB should be able to use it fine
MrDigital1
Reply #7 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:50 PM
Reply #7 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:50 PM
I tried installing DesktopX, it did not install TrayServer.exe, only CloseTrayServer.exe like ObjectBars did (I think I forgot to mention that I had a closetrayserver.exe file). I will look at those downloadable files a bit later when I get time.
feline
Reply #8 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 5:08 AM
Reply #8 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 5:08 AM
the mystery deepens 
feline pottles off to email stardock support
hopefully we can get an offical plan
the only other plans i can think of are:
a) you get a trayserver.exe off someone. bad plan for various reasons
install the trial version of OB, and hope it includes trayserver. that means we then need to upgrade it to the full version without loosing trayserver + the registry entries for trayserver. possible, but unless you like playing with regedit, not one i would suggest.
c) find the page at stardock.com where you can download standalone exe installers. i have heard of it, so i think it exists
feline pottles off to email stardock support
hopefully we can get an offical plan
the only other plans i can think of are:
a) you get a trayserver.exe off someone. bad plan for various reasons
install the trial version of OB, and hope it includes trayserver. that means we then need to upgrade it to the full version without loosing trayserver + the registry entries for trayserver. possible, but unless you like playing with regedit, not one i would suggest.c) find the page at stardock.com where you can download standalone exe installers. i have heard of it, so i think it exists
feline
Reply #9 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 5:15 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 5:15 AM
email sent. hopefully we will get a comment from stardock in the next day or two.
in the mean time, i would like to award you a gold star for the thread title
if this had been called "i need help" i wouldnt have opened it
in the mean time, i would like to award you a gold star for the thread title
if this had been called "i need help" i wouldnt have opened it
MrDigital1
Reply #10 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 8:39 AM
Reply #10 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 8:39 AM
Thanks for all the help you've given, thanks for the comment on the thread title, I work in Computers and do Tech Support and I understand what you mean about the "i need help" comment
I have "fixed" it but not truly. I went to my friends house who told me about Objects Desktop and copied his trayserver.exe and the INI file that goes with it from his XP Pro machine (don't worry, I know the importance of anti-virus software etc) and copied them into their respective folders on my 2K Pro machine. Restarted OB and everything is working. I'm still not sure why nothing installed the file and according to the logs it never even downloaded the files. Perhaps something in the Stardock Central files doesn't have the Trayserver.exe flagged to download? I know my friend was using the Component Manager when he originally installed all his software, maybe that's the only difference.
Again, thanks for your help and I'll consider this solved and bug submitted (by you) and call it a beta bug It's just I don't know if OS matters using SD Central or if it is limited to 2K.
--MrDigital
I have "fixed" it but not truly. I went to my friends house who told me about Objects Desktop and copied his trayserver.exe and the INI file that goes with it from his XP Pro machine (don't worry, I know the importance of anti-virus software etc) and copied them into their respective folders on my 2K Pro machine. Restarted OB and everything is working. I'm still not sure why nothing installed the file and according to the logs it never even downloaded the files. Perhaps something in the Stardock Central files doesn't have the Trayserver.exe flagged to download? I know my friend was using the Component Manager when he originally installed all his software, maybe that's the only difference.
Again, thanks for your help and I'll consider this solved and bug submitted (by you) and call it a beta bug
It's just I don't know if OS matters using SD Central or if it is limited to 2K.--MrDigital
feline
Reply #11 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:52 AM
Reply #11 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 9:52 AM
have you got the registry key set to load trayserver at boot?
if not, you are going to have a problem. any system tray icon that is created before trayserver loads is unknown to OB.
as for the log files, there is no sign it was downloaded onto my work winXP pro machine either.
if not, you are going to have a problem. any system tray icon that is created before trayserver loads is unknown to OB.
as for the log files, there is no sign it was downloaded onto my work winXP pro machine either.
MrDigital1
Reply #12 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 12:19 PM
Reply #12 Tuesday, April 8, 2003 12:19 PM
I added it to the registry after I read your post. I hadn't thought of that, thanks again
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Reply #1 Monday, April 7, 2003 4:26 PM
do you have OB set to run trayserver? you can turn this off in the settings. if this is turned off, then the system tray wont get any items
if you have got past those two problems, then do you run DesktopX ? i have occasionally heard of conflicts between OB and DX over the system tray, but they should have been long since fixed.
i do know that 1.5 works on win2k professional, i ran it myself with great success.
do you actually have a system tray item in your theme? and is it visible on the screen?
if so, check the settings for auto hiding icons. you can ask OB to hide system tray icons that haven't been updated / used for 5 minutes.
if it is none of these, then if the theme is small (56k connection) and you can wait a few days for me to get around to it, you can email me the theme and i will have a look for you.
no promises, but i have played with OB for a while, so i may be able to help