Im i one of the only supporters of this war!
Sunday, April 6, 2003 by Santos_X13 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I have many reasons why i support this war one for the fact if we were to let Saddam go free with out a fight all that would happen is that again he would fund the Al Quiada network once more. when this would happen guess who they would blame they would blame Bush because he could have stopped it but didnt. What does this signify that we need millions more to dies people till you let bush do whats necessary to keep our country free. There will never be peace among man for as long as there is peace there will always be someone wanting to make himself better more powerful then others. Thats why the though of peace is yet to be and until man is able to understand the way of life and why we exist we may never know the true feeling of peace. For any quarele that men undergo can and sometimes will turn out to be massive wars. Think about this also our president is fighting for your right to be able to say things like you dont support the war and that you think your president is stupid. if you where to speak againts ur president in Iraq they would chop off your tongue if you where to steal say goodbye to your hands if you where to run from the authority youd get your feet cut off so think about that.
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Bangkokboy
Reply #63 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:01 PM
Reply #63 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:01 PM
"Who gave you the right to decide what happens anywhere outside your own borders?" - wytraven
when the outnumbered and outgunned american fleet beat the japanese fleet at the Coral Sea and sent it homeward, not a single Aussie asked us the question you've posed.
when the outnumbered and outgunned american fleet beat the japanese fleet at the Coral Sea and sent it homeward, not a single Aussie asked us the question you've posed.
bordfryr
Reply #65 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:32 PM
Reply #65 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:32 PM
WytRaven, I think you are way off base. You should check your history books. Saddam is responsible for the murders, torture, rape of hundreds of thousands of people. Doesn't that mean anything to you? As far as dropping the atomic bombs on Japan, what about the unprovoked attack on Pearl Harbor? If no one shouldered the responsibility of "policing" the world, what do you think would happen? We would ALL be under a dictatorship. You need to rethink before you go off on the USA.
DYSEQTA
Reply #66 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:35 PM
Reply #66 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:35 PM
"Yawn! Good morning. Oooo feel the love!" 
bakerstreet: maybe you should put on your reading glasses and check that post or maybe you should move you ignorance a little to the left so you can see past the end of your nose. I made a post similar to this one at the begining of said post. If someone else happens to feel the same way as me then 'yay' for them. If someone else happens to dissagree with me then 'yay' for them too.
All I can hope for is that "what goes around comes around"
And that ends my input on this sorry matter. Feel free to continue wallowing in your own self importance telling eachother how great you all are for being American and for spreading "peace" throughout the galaxy... Lets hope that you have the opportunity of coming home one day to find your wife burnt to a crisp and your children splattered all over the charred remains of your home; the result of a weapon fired in the name of peace and freedom. Reality's a bitch ain't it?
bakerstreet: maybe you should put on your reading glasses and check that post or maybe you should move you ignorance a little to the left so you can see past the end of your nose. I made a post similar to this one at the begining of said post. If someone else happens to feel the same way as me then 'yay' for them. If someone else happens to dissagree with me then 'yay' for them too.
All I can hope for is that "what goes around comes around"
And that ends my input on this sorry matter. Feel free to continue wallowing in your own self importance telling eachother how great you all are for being American and for spreading "peace" throughout the galaxy... Lets hope that you have the opportunity of coming home one day to find your wife burnt to a crisp and your children splattered all over the charred remains of your home; the result of a weapon fired in the name of peace and freedom. Reality's a bitch ain't it?
JamMeister33
Reply #67 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:47 PM
Reply #67 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:47 PM
WytRaven - bla, bla, bla, bla... get a life... bla, bla.....
Xerraire
Reply #68 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:50 PM
Reply #68 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:50 PM
What good is peace if people are being attacked, mutilated, tortured, murdered, and raped?
I like peace, but that seems like peace at a price.
WytRaven, what would be your solution to Saddam's treatment of his own people and his alignment to terrorists and threatenting weapons of mass destruction?
Report: U.S. Finds Missiles with Chemical Weapons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47645-2003Apr7.html
I like peace, but that seems like peace at a price.
WytRaven, what would be your solution to Saddam's treatment of his own people and his alignment to terrorists and threatenting weapons of mass destruction?
Report: U.S. Finds Missiles with Chemical Weapons
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47645-2003Apr7.html
Broken Haiku
Reply #69 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:56 PM
Reply #69 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:56 PM
I'm astounded. The pathetic outcry of "we're wrong, but stop dissing our way of life/country anyhow" is nothing short but rediculous.
Some people will start screaming "fine, hate the US", I don't. I'm _scared_ of the military junta in charge, the puppeteers behind Bush. (Hi Cheney, hi Ashcroft et.c)
The weak excuse of Terrorism being the reason for invading another country. (Yes, invade. It's not a "disarmament" through "Operation Iraq freedom". )
really gets the stomach acid going when you think about that Bush is pushing for the developement of mini-nukes, which is in direct violation of the comprehensive test Ban Treaty, and that the US rejected the international accord to enforce the 1972 treaty banning germ warfare, refused to sign the peace treaty with North Korea et.c. Wait a minute, which is the ONLY country convicted of state terrorism? Oi vey.
Sure, Saddam has been slow to follow up on the restrictions and demands of the UN(US, but just see how much the US has pushed them and it's easy to see they're being manipulated in being reluctant about letting everyone get free hands in their country. Persian culture has a strong sense of pride in it and admittedly, it's not hard to by being obtusely blunt to them, making them dig in their heels to save their pride.
Hey I got an idea, let's call down the UN and have them defend the country being invaded. - How about that, hmmm?
*waits for the bombardment of accusations of being a communist, hippie and a "traitor to my country", instead of decent arguments*
Some people will start screaming "fine, hate the US", I don't. I'm _scared_ of the military junta in charge, the puppeteers behind Bush. (Hi Cheney, hi Ashcroft et.c)
The weak excuse of Terrorism being the reason for invading another country. (Yes, invade. It's not a "disarmament" through "Operation Iraq freedom". )
really gets the stomach acid going when you think about that Bush is pushing for the developement of mini-nukes, which is in direct violation of the comprehensive test Ban Treaty, and that the US rejected the international accord to enforce the 1972 treaty banning germ warfare, refused to sign the peace treaty with North Korea et.c. Wait a minute, which is the ONLY country convicted of state terrorism? Oi vey.
Sure, Saddam has been slow to follow up on the restrictions and demands of the UN(US, but just see how much the US has pushed them and it's easy to see they're being manipulated in being reluctant about letting everyone get free hands in their country. Persian culture has a strong sense of pride in it and admittedly, it's not hard to by being obtusely blunt to them, making them dig in their heels to save their pride.
Hey I got an idea, let's call down the UN and have them defend the country being invaded. - How about that, hmmm?
*waits for the bombardment of accusations of being a communist, hippie and a "traitor to my country", instead of decent arguments*
bordfryr
Reply #70 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:58 PM
Reply #70 Monday, April 7, 2003 5:58 PM
Peace and freedom have ALWAYS come with a heavy price.
Jafo
Reply #71 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:10 PM
Reply #71 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:10 PM
#54 by Jafo - 4/7/2003 3:09:24 AM
I'm still finding it hard to justify two threads on what is the same subject.
What say we limit it to one, and use the energies saved to indulge in actually skinning something...
I'm still finding it hard to justify two threads on what is the same subject.
What say we limit it to one, and use the energies saved to indulge in actually skinning something...
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #72 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:20 PM
Reply #72 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:20 PM
You have a delete button. Please feel free to use it on all these war threads, they only seem to bring grief 
bordfryr
Reply #73 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:29 PM
Reply #73 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:29 PM
I agree, Fuzzy. I'm sorry I ever got into this discussion in the first place. No point in encouraging hard feelings.
DavidK
Reply #74 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:52 PM
Reply #74 Monday, April 7, 2003 6:52 PM
Please don't delete the threads... if anyone doesn't want to read them it's very easy to not OPEN them. People are entitled to their opinions and this war is one that will bring forth many opposing views. That's okay, we can handle it.
WytRaven - I'm curious, what country are you from?
I agree that "fighhting terrorism" is a lame excuse for this war. Every expert opinion on that seems to be that this war will increase terrorism aimed at the US. I also think pre-emption and the use of nukes and chem/bio weapons that the Bush administration is touting endangers the entire world. This American "regime" is producing a world crisis.
I'm glad to hear that they're planning to spend billions providing the Iraqi's with universal health-care and brand new schools and hospitals... too bad they're cutting health and education budgets in America to the bone... something like 25,000 schools are closing here due to lack of funding and the schools that are left are falling apart. But Saddam's neighbors, the Saudi's, the Kuwati's can rest easier in their palaces knowing we've saved them from the threat of mass destruction... Once the Iraqi citizens recover from the shock and awe of being blitzkreiged into a US led benevolent military dictatorship I'm sure they'll just love their new sense of wealth and freedom...
WytRaven - I'm curious, what country are you from?
I agree that "fighhting terrorism" is a lame excuse for this war. Every expert opinion on that seems to be that this war will increase terrorism aimed at the US. I also think pre-emption and the use of nukes and chem/bio weapons that the Bush administration is touting endangers the entire world. This American "regime" is producing a world crisis.
I'm glad to hear that they're planning to spend billions providing the Iraqi's with universal health-care and brand new schools and hospitals... too bad they're cutting health and education budgets in America to the bone... something like 25,000 schools are closing here due to lack of funding and the schools that are left are falling apart. But Saddam's neighbors, the Saudi's, the Kuwati's can rest easier in their palaces knowing we've saved them from the threat of mass destruction... Once the Iraqi citizens recover from the shock and awe of being blitzkreiged into a US led benevolent military dictatorship I'm sure they'll just love their new sense of wealth and freedom...
bakerstreet
Reply #75 Monday, April 7, 2003 7:15 PM
Reply #75 Monday, April 7, 2003 7:15 PM
I say delete this one and any others that spring up. People like WytRaven are just gonna keep wandering in and posting here because they don't see the other one or they are too lazy to wade 1000 posts in...
Jafo
Reply #76 Monday, April 7, 2003 7:25 PM
Reply #76 Monday, April 7, 2003 7:25 PM
Nah....both threads now, [unfortunately] have valid commentary from both sides of the fence so it'd be unfair to remove either.....just would have been 'tidier' to have kept it in one neat pile, rather than two....
Suddenly I get the urge to listen to Alice's Restaurant all over again....
I wanna kill...I wanna kill...I wanna eat dead burnt bodies....I wanna kill....
and we both jumped up on the table yelling 'keel.....keel....keel...' until he stopped and looked at me and said 'son, your our man'.....
[OK, so it was recited from memory....but close enough]...
Suddenly I get the urge to listen to Alice's Restaurant all over again....
I wanna kill...I wanna kill...I wanna eat dead burnt bodies....I wanna kill....
and we both jumped up on the table yelling 'keel.....keel....keel...' until he stopped and looked at me and said 'son, your our man'.....
[OK, so it was recited from memory....but close enough]...
DYSEQTA
Reply #77 Monday, April 7, 2003 7:40 PM
Reply #77 Monday, April 7, 2003 7:40 PM
DavidK: I am a resident of Australia.
Before all the rest of you lot start going off, no, I do not condone Australia's involvement but I do understand that the Prime Minister had absolutely no choice but to offer Australia's support regardless of the people's opinion. I do commend him for keeping Australian involvement to an absolute minimum. Restricting missions to either defense or, in the case of our SAS, to strikes involving purely military targets. But the fact remains that Australia should never have been involved in a fight that America picked.
Before all the rest of you lot start going off, no, I do not condone Australia's involvement but I do understand that the Prime Minister had absolutely no choice but to offer Australia's support regardless of the people's opinion. I do commend him for keeping Australian involvement to an absolute minimum. Restricting missions to either defense or, in the case of our SAS, to strikes involving purely military targets. But the fact remains that Australia should never have been involved in a fight that America picked.
Frogboy
Reply #79 Monday, April 7, 2003 8:00 PM
Reply #79 Monday, April 7, 2003 8:00 PM
Frankly I just can't believe that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father.
Bangkokboy
Reply #80 Monday, April 7, 2003 8:00 PM
Reply #80 Monday, April 7, 2003 8:00 PM
"Feel free to continue wallowing in your own self importance telling eachother how great you all are for being American and for spreading "peace" throughout the galaxy... Lets hope that you have the opportunity of coming home one day to find your wife burnt to a crisp and your children splattered all over the charred remains of your home; the result of a weapon fired in the name of peace and freedom" - wytraven
for the record, Jafo: this rhetoric is at least as offensive and inexcusable as posting the word "gay" in a comment. ah, but the perpetrator is from where? and the group whose families he hopes will meet a violent death ( americans ) are not a protected species. i see how this works rightly enough. >
for the record, Jafo: this rhetoric is at least as offensive and inexcusable as posting the word "gay" in a comment. ah, but the perpetrator is from where? and the group whose families he hopes will meet a violent death ( americans ) are not a protected species. i see how this works rightly enough. >
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Reply #61 Monday, April 7, 2003 1:48 PM
Why do people waste their time copying other people's opinions? Must be spring break somewhere. If I had a dime for every MTV news op/ed peice I have seen posted here...