'Gay'
Saturday, April 5, 2003 by Jafo | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
gay [Homosexual] /gei/ adj. infml - HOMOSEXUAL
gay /gei/ n. [C] infml
gay [Happy] /gei/ adj. dated (of a person) happy, or (of a place) bright and attractive.
OK....so, if 'gay' is used, along with >
as a comment on a wallpaper, etc, it is clearly none of these meanings but is, in fact, the modern childish derogatory colloquial that equates 'gay' [or homosexual] as sub-standard in some way, and is intended as a comment expressing displeasure.
However, what it ACTUALLY IS, is a self-declaration of the commenter's immaturity and lack of communicative vocabulary.
It is also inappropriate, and grounds for Exiling/exclusion from participating on this site.
gay /gei/ n. [C] infml
gay [Happy] /gei/ adj. dated (of a person) happy, or (of a place) bright and attractive.
OK....so, if 'gay' is used, along with >
as a comment on a wallpaper, etc, it is clearly none of these meanings but is, in fact, the modern childish derogatory colloquial that equates 'gay' [or homosexual] as sub-standard in some way, and is intended as a comment expressing displeasure.However, what it ACTUALLY IS, is a self-declaration of the commenter's immaturity and lack of communicative vocabulary.
It is also inappropriate, and grounds for Exiling/exclusion from participating on this site.
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kona0197
Reply #62 Sunday, April 6, 2003 7:23 AM
Reply #62 Sunday, April 6, 2003 7:23 AM
@Wommers:
No offense taken bro.
It just seems this thread has become pick on Kona thread.
Nuff Said.
No offense taken bro.
It just seems this thread has become pick on Kona thread.
Nuff Said.
Styl-X Design
Reply #63 Sunday, April 6, 2003 8:31 AM
Reply #63 Sunday, April 6, 2003 8:31 AM
I think negative comments have some 'wisedom' BUT only if they are like this:
Nice skin, only you should do this, or fix that...
when people just say: ugly!! stupid skin, what kind of ****** is this!!! (insert 10 vomit icons here)
- comments like that dasn't make sence.
When you look closer at this users you will see they don't have any skins made theirself so don't respect ANY effort that is taken.
Nice skin, only you should do this, or fix that...
when people just say: ugly!! stupid skin, what kind of ****** is this!!! (insert 10 vomit icons here)
- comments like that dasn't make sence.
When you look closer at this users you will see they don't have any skins made theirself so don't respect ANY effort that is taken.
JamMeister33
Reply #64 Sunday, April 6, 2003 8:46 AM
Reply #64 Sunday, April 6, 2003 8:46 AM
KONA!!! you are now inducted into the JM33 commando unit along with Styl.. we gonna go in and get busy!!!!
Gregory2001
Reply #66 Sunday, April 6, 2003 10:02 AM
Reply #66 Sunday, April 6, 2003 10:02 AM
Ignorant comments are way more different than racial ones.
This "quote" from Kona kinda sorta explains why he is being "picked on".
This "quote" from Kona kinda sorta explains why he is being "picked on".
paxx
Reply #67 Sunday, April 6, 2003 10:15 AM
Reply #67 Sunday, April 6, 2003 10:15 AM
Once again, the problem with using the word "gay" to describe a wallpaper is not so much an offense on the wallpaper or artist (I would never take it as such, I'd probably reply "I'm glad my wallpaper makes you happy"), but the main problem is tat since it's usually meant as a synonym to "bad", it really is an insult to the gay community.
Just as we would not accept an insult to any cultural community, we won't accept that one either. Using the word "gay" as a subtitute for "crappy" is equivalent to saying "Gay people are second rate citizens". Which we would never accept.
That's the bottom line.
Just as we would not accept an insult to any cultural community, we won't accept that one either. Using the word "gay" as a subtitute for "crappy" is equivalent to saying "Gay people are second rate citizens". Which we would never accept.
That's the bottom line.
Styl-X Design
Reply #68 Sunday, April 6, 2003 10:25 AM easy to fix that paxx, next time somebody use gay in a comment at a wall, and the admins thinks the wall is crappy kick the user 
Reply #68 Sunday, April 6, 2003 10:25 AM
easy to fix that paxx, next time somebody use gay in a comment at a wall, and the admins thinks the wall is crappy kick the user 
JamMeister33
Reply #69 Sunday, April 6, 2003 11:51 AM
Reply #69 Sunday, April 6, 2003 11:51 AM
#49 by JamMeister33 - 4/6/2003 5:42:35 AM
KONA!!!!!
#50 by kona0197 - 4/6/2003 5:46:49 AM
WHAT?
I'm just trying to agree with everyone!!!
#64 by JamMeister33 - 4/6/2003 8:46:31 AM
KONA!!! you are now inducted into the JM33 commando unit along with Styl.. we gonna go in and get busy!!!!
KONA!!!!!
#50 by kona0197 - 4/6/2003 5:46:49 AM
WHAT?
I'm just trying to agree with everyone!!!
#64 by JamMeister33 - 4/6/2003 8:46:31 AM
KONA!!! you are now inducted into the JM33 commando unit along with Styl.. we gonna go in and get busy!!!!
JamMeister33
Reply #70 Sunday, April 6, 2003 11:59 AM
Reply #70 Sunday, April 6, 2003 11:59 AM
But first we're gonna practice on all these "this is gay" commenters, oh yeah, they're going down! 
da_zman20
Reply #71 Sunday, April 6, 2003 12:27 PM
Reply #71 Sunday, April 6, 2003 12:27 PM
I just want to throw in my two cents like always... i don't have a problem with gay people, and many of they don't think of gay as derogitory, they often refer to themselves as gay. However this is meant in a derogatory way, any comment put in such a fashion has no place on anyone's work. It's not polite, and it's not fair, because the work here is all good, and no one has a right to say that the work is bad(or GAY).
Green Armani
Reply #72 Sunday, April 6, 2003 1:01 PM
Reply #72 Sunday, April 6, 2003 1:01 PM
I can't say that all the work is 'all' good. There is a definite line from an outstanding artist to more novice one's. I love the lines though because you get a variety of styles and imaginitive work. It's like saying that trapped in Bryceworld is as good as one of Nuvems......ain't gonna happen (yeah yeah I know it was a sick joke of Jafo's but it fit my opinion 
)
(yeah yeah I know it was a sick joke of Jafo's but it fit my opinion 
)
da_zman20
Reply #74 Sunday, April 6, 2003 2:19 PM, but to say someone's work is Gay, or make a bad comment about, what does that do, alot of work goes into anything submitted here, and that makes all of the work good. Hard work and sacrifice should pay off at wincustomize, people should have respect for the work done, and make polite comments, out of respect for the time and effort that goes into them.
Reply #74 Sunday, April 6, 2003 2:19 PM
, but to say someone's work is Gay, or make a bad comment about, what does that do, alot of work goes into anything submitted here, and that makes all of the work good. Hard work and sacrifice should pay off at wincustomize, people should have respect for the work done, and make polite comments, out of respect for the time and effort that goes into them.
JamMeister33
Reply #75 Sunday, April 6, 2003 2:38 PM
Reply #75 Sunday, April 6, 2003 2:38 PM
I certainly agree with you, remarks like that are rude, crude, obnoxious and entirely uncalled for (and undeserved as well).
Jess McGuay
Reply #76 Sunday, April 6, 2003 5:00 PM
Reply #76 Sunday, April 6, 2003 5:00 PM
Well Im gonna go out on a real limb here and admit I am Gay. So what its only part of what make me a whole person but I do personally have np with the word Gay itself but I do dislike how it gets used as an insult. I have always held to the firm belief that most ppl I know who are also gay also have BETTER not worse taste. Why not say "That WP is so Straight" instead. To me straight is much more boreing thus a better description for something that doesnt interest ya.
"Never go straight ahead, just Gayly forward
"Never go straight ahead, just Gayly forward
Styl-X Design
Reply #77 Sunday, April 6, 2003 5:03 PM
Reply #77 Sunday, April 6, 2003 5:03 PM
what is wrong with trapped in bryce world?
btw: you have some new walls already jafo?
btw: you have some new walls already jafo?
KarlSATX
Reply #78 Sunday, April 6, 2003 6:52 PM
Reply #78 Sunday, April 6, 2003 6:52 PM
Thank you very much Jess...I stand beside you on that. After I got back from one of the local gay bars...I layed in bed pondering this thread until I fell asleep. Looking for the right words to say, in addition to my last post. I had plenty that I could add, but nothing seemed appropriate. I agree that "Straight" is much more degrading. But, my thoughts are, if you don't like the work, you don't have to download it....And it's not necessary to express your feelings in the first place. It's not that the artist is going to remove it or change it to suit what you like. If you don't have a compliment on the art or are not going to express a neutral comment, you shouldn't post. WC is not trying to tell anyone they aren't free to think what they want. But, as a community, we should support each others efforts as an artist, regardless of taste.
Green Armani
Reply #79 Sunday, April 6, 2003 6:58 PM
Reply #79 Sunday, April 6, 2003 6:58 PM
Jess....a few of my friends from high school are gay and they were so afraid to tell me, like I was going to write them off or something.....don't worry your not going out on a limb.
The topic at hand is the way someone criticizes, whether the word gay was used or even if "this totally blows, how did this make moderation" was used, the bottom line is that you really need to watch how you say things. I have told people several times that what they made isn't for me but I also told them why. It's only my opinion and I'm able to convey that without being rude, crude and or obscene. A perfect example is one of the comments for my latest wall https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=8&SkinID=8285 Is it vulgar? Yes, but it isn't bashing me it's a compliment in this person's mind.
The topic at hand is the way someone criticizes, whether the word gay was used or even if "this totally blows, how did this make moderation" was used, the bottom line is that you really need to watch how you say things. I have told people several times that what they made isn't for me but I also told them why. It's only my opinion and I'm able to convey that without being rude, crude and or obscene. A perfect example is one of the comments for my latest wall https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=8&SkinID=8285 Is it vulgar? Yes, but it isn't bashing me it's a compliment in this person's mind.
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Reply #61 Sunday, April 6, 2003 7:23 AM