Internet myth?
Friday, April 4, 2003 by _Martin_ | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
OK, let's get this out of the way. What follows is not Anti-US etc etc, it is just plain funny in my eyes!
This was sent to me. Can anyone validate if it actually happened or is just one of those false things that gets around ...
To set the scene....experts with newscaster on CNN, 24th March.
In the studio are 3 US experts including a former 2-star general from delta force, 1 ex SAS (British) and the network's anchor.
They are showing footage of Iraqis giving themselves up......
Anchor: We have no verification as of yet if they are British or American troops taking these POW's
US 1: Only Americans wear boots like that, they're American
US 2: I agree, and they appear to have American camouflage jackets.
US 3 (delta force bloke): I'm not so sure, there's not enough up-close detail to tell 100%, we'd need some close images to tell make of boots and jackets and maybe the shape of their kevlar headgear.
Ex SAS man: Call yourselves experts? Since when did US forces use an SA80 as a standard issue rifle? Their DPM's can be bought as can boots so you're chasing rainbows if you want to identify them from their clothes.
Anchor: I think you're right.
Ex SAS man: Course I'm bloody right. Any one with half a brain and basic military training worth their salt should be able to identify a British soldier by his rifle. Not to mention the fact they're covering all points properly, not shouting "woo yeah" randomly, and haven't raised a flag in direct contravention with orders.
At this point 1 of the Americans walks off stage tearing his mic off, and the anchor says "I think we can safely say the soldiers on your screen are British. Now for these messages".
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This was sent to me. Can anyone validate if it actually happened or is just one of those false things that gets around ...
To set the scene....experts with newscaster on CNN, 24th March.
In the studio are 3 US experts including a former 2-star general from delta force, 1 ex SAS (British) and the network's anchor.
They are showing footage of Iraqis giving themselves up......
Anchor: We have no verification as of yet if they are British or American troops taking these POW's
US 1: Only Americans wear boots like that, they're American
US 2: I agree, and they appear to have American camouflage jackets.
US 3 (delta force bloke): I'm not so sure, there's not enough up-close detail to tell 100%, we'd need some close images to tell make of boots and jackets and maybe the shape of their kevlar headgear.
Ex SAS man: Call yourselves experts? Since when did US forces use an SA80 as a standard issue rifle? Their DPM's can be bought as can boots so you're chasing rainbows if you want to identify them from their clothes.
Anchor: I think you're right.
Ex SAS man: Course I'm bloody right. Any one with half a brain and basic military training worth their salt should be able to identify a British soldier by his rifle. Not to mention the fact they're covering all points properly, not shouting "woo yeah" randomly, and haven't raised a flag in direct contravention with orders.
At this point 1 of the Americans walks off stage tearing his mic off, and the anchor says "I think we can safely say the soldiers on your screen are British. Now for these messages".
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Fuzzy Logic
Reply #4 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:19 AM
Reply #4 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:19 AM
Earlier in the war there was a live broadcast of a huge column of tanks rolling into Umm Qasr which were identified by the 'expert' as American M1 Abrams. I'm not a military expert but even I could see they were Challenger IIs - the small union flag on the back was a dead give-away!
MikeB314
Reply #5 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:19 AM
Reply #5 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:19 AM
I think I heard brief mention of that yesterday too, but I didn't see it myself. Very funny indeed. 
paxx
Reply #6 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:25 AM
Reply #6 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:25 AM
Fuzzy, that doesn't mean anything, you know. It seems that some pilots can't recognise the Union Jack on a tank. :/
BoXXi
Reply #7 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:27 AM
Reply #7 Friday, April 4, 2003 11:27 AM
Speaking of SAS soldiers: Last year an ex-SAS guy was drunk in the bar of the casino where I work. He managed to upset members of the local Triads that frequent our casino and was promptly attacked by around 14 chinese guys. It was a vicious attack, they wrecked the place, they hit him with everything in the bar... bottles, chairs, large copper glass drainers etc, but to his credit, the guy never went down once! stayed on his feet the whole time until the security broke it up. Impressive considering he was drunk too! When asked if he would like to get the police involved, he just said "No thanks, we will deal with this our own way". Scary! 
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #9 Friday, April 4, 2003 12:35 PM
Reply #9 Friday, April 4, 2003 12:35 PM
Don't mess with the SAS!
One golden rule: if someone tells you they are in the SAS don't believe them, they are not
One golden rule: if someone tells you they are in the SAS don't believe them, they are not
feline
Reply #10 Friday, April 4, 2003 1:12 PM
Reply #10 Friday, April 4, 2003 1:12 PM
um, does this mean that if someone says they are not in the SAS then they are?
feline *confused*
feline *confused*
Stumpy
Reply #11 Friday, April 4, 2003 1:21 PM
Reply #11 Friday, April 4, 2003 1:21 PM
No feline any SAS either serving or ex- wil never say, keeps his trap shut, and sorts out anything that comes his way
Stumpy
Reply #14 Friday, April 4, 2003 1:36 PM
Reply #14 Friday, April 4, 2003 1:36 PM
Actually stands for Special Air Service, been around since WW2 
LazyDawg
Reply #15 Friday, April 4, 2003 4:53 PM
Reply #15 Friday, April 4, 2003 4:53 PM
I don't believe this tale; the SAS man seemed far too restrained. 
Jafo
Reply #17 Friday, April 4, 2003 6:25 PM
Reply #17 Friday, April 4, 2003 6:25 PM
There's only two ways to back out of SAS training.....serious injury or throwing in the towel....the latter prevents any future re-application, as bottling out is NOT an option.
One SAS [Aussie] in training finally couldn't hack-it any longer so stuck his arm in between two branches and simply snapped it....got out with a medical injury, which meant he could still re-apply.
Even the ones that 'don't' make it are pretty bloody tough....
Needless to say the Aussie SAS in Iraq are probably having lots of fun....well and truly in their 'element'.....but I heard that the English had to be extracted after biting off a little TOO much....
One SAS [Aussie] in training finally couldn't hack-it any longer so stuck his arm in between two branches and simply snapped it....got out with a medical injury, which meant he could still re-apply.
Even the ones that 'don't' make it are pretty bloody tough....
Needless to say the Aussie SAS in Iraq are probably having lots of fun....well and truly in their 'element'.....but I heard that the English had to be extracted after biting off a little TOO much....
Fuzzy Logic
Reply #18 Friday, April 4, 2003 7:32 PM
Reply #18 Friday, April 4, 2003 7:32 PM
Needless to say the Aussie SAS in Iraq are probably having lots of fun
Yeah, it's going to take them days of searching before someone tells them Iraq has no dingos
Yeah, it's going to take them days of searching before someone tells them Iraq has no dingos
paxx
Reply #19 Friday, April 4, 2003 9:34 PM
Reply #19 Friday, April 4, 2003 9:34 PM
Well we don't have Canadian SAS in Iraq.
Wiat... do don't have any troops in Iraq.
Wait again... we don't have any SAS in Canada either...
Wait... we hardly have a military at all in Canada.
Wiat... do don't have any troops in Iraq.
Wait again... we don't have any SAS in Canada either...
Wait... we hardly have a military at all in Canada.
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Reply #1 Friday, April 4, 2003 10:43 AM