Are you using the new features in Windows?
I don’t own a hybrid/tablet device.
Tuesday, July 26, 2016 by anotherside | Discussion: Windows Discussion
Soon Windows 10 Anniversary update is out. I am not excited and that bothers me.
This is not about the privacy aspect of Windows. This is about everything else. My “problem” is that I don’t need any of the features added after Windows 7.
Microsoft has worked hard and added a lot of features. Mobile/touch oriented users probably rejoice.
I use Windows 10 from time to time and then I go back to Windows 7. What do I miss? Nothing. Zero. Nada.
Don’t get me wrong. I actually think Windows 10 works well and the number of features added after Windows 7 is quite impressive.
But as a desktop user I care more about the loss of Explorer textures than any of the new functionality in Windows 10. It’s crazy when I think about it. Therefore I wonder:
Do you use features added to Windows after Windows 7?
I would prefer a pure desktop version of Windows with all the touch functionality in a standalone application comparable to Windows Media Center.
Reply #2 Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:38 PM
I don't really think so. I was only on Win7 for a few months so I'm really not sure how many details are new or changed, but I sure don't use any of the device coordination, cloud, Cortana, and most of the other things I've seen advertised as selling points.
My installation of Win10 was purely to push out the end of support date. I fully expect my (mostly new) hardware to outlive Win7 and it seemed silly to make myself pay for an o/s upgrade in a couple of years. In that regard, no regrets here.
Reply #4 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 7:50 AM
I think Windows 10 makes me sad because I don't "understand" it. The truth is Windows 10 makes me feel old. I don't see the value of these new features for regular mouse/keyboard users.
Cortana can be useful, but the concept of a digital assistant is somewhat foreign to me. Granted, I am not an early adopter kind of person. Microsoft is talking about Skype bots. Bots? I don't even know what that is. Looked it up: a computer program that works automatically, especially one that searches for and finds information on the internet.
Windows 10, iOS and Android give me the feeling I am living in a brave new world which I frankly just don't like. I realize my workflow is very old-school and I don't "understand" touch, touch-apps and integrated services like Cortana. I feel like my grandpa when I showed him a videogame in the early 90's. He looked at it and said: what is it good for?
Why would they ruin the perfect OS, Windows 7?
I am thinking about this every day... Paradise lost. It surprises me that I am that attached to an operating system. Well, I don't mind being a geek/nerd.
My installation of Win10 was purely to push out the end of support date. I fully expect my (mostly new) hardware to outlive Win7 and it seemed silly to make myself pay for an o/s upgrade in a couple of years.
My thoughts also.
Reply #5 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 11:49 AM
My primary OS is Windows 10. Actually, I have about 15 PCs and they all run Windows 10. Touch and non touch.
I like the ribbon, I use the things there quite often. Yes, it's ugly. But useful.
I don't use Cortana. I do use the action center, even though I never used it on 7.
Naturally, WindowBlinds is a must. But then, I use a few of my rigs au naturale.
10 is actually my ONLY OS, other than Ubuntu and Win 7 as VMs.
Reply #6 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 1:31 PM
I use the explorer ribbon too, so I guess I could count that. I realized this morning that one thing I do use all the time is the little systray popup clock/calender popup, that thing's handy as heck and could've been made "just for me"
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Reply #7 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 3:47 PM
I like the ribbon, I use the things there quite often. Yes, it's ugly. But useful.
I agree that ribbon is a useful addition to Windows. I don't think ribbon is ugly per se, main problem is that it cannot be skinned so you are stuck with a white ribbon. In Windows 7; ribbon in Windows Live Mail has a nice light blue color. RIP Windows Live Mail [e digicons]:'([/e]
I realized this morning that one thing I do use all the time is the little systray popup clock/calender popup, that thing's handy as heck and could've been made "just for me"
I am not sitting in front of Windows 10 so I don't know if it has been improved, but it exists in Windows 7 too.
I think there is an improvement in Anniversary update. You will be able to see calendar events in this popup window (if you sync your calendar).
Reply #8 Thursday, July 28, 2016 11:20 AM
I use Old New Explorer to replace the ribbon. Kinda like the 'feel' of it. Another thing I find useful from time to time is the organize option on the left side of the window. When you have as many oops moments as I do being able to 'undo' is priceless.
Reply #10 Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:26 AM
Me, well I just want a straight up desktop with none of the app clutter that began with Win 8 and got worse in 10. I absolutely hate 10's default start menu with those damned 'suggestions' [glorified ads] and all that tile crap on it - looks fechen gaudy and is an eyesore - so I got rid of it and use Stardock's Start10 replacement menu to return some semblance of sense to the desktop.
I never use Cortana and have disabled it, I disabled or uninstalled the built-in apps, I use the Control Panel rather than 'Settings' and I do pretty much everything the same way as I did in Win 7.... and 8.1. And no, I don't feel old or outdated. Simply put, I use what I need of modern tech and devices. For example, I have a Windows 8.1 phone which has tiles, and I don't mind seeing them being there, just NOT on my PC.
That answer your question?
Reply #11 Thursday, October 20, 2016 5:35 PM
That answer your question?
he-he, yeah that will do.
Me, well I just want a straight up desktop with none of the app clutter that began with Win 8 and got worse in 10.
I totally agree. Why did they make a 2-in-1 OS?
I use the Control Panel rather than 'Settings' and I do pretty much everything the same way as I did in Win 7.... and 8.1. And no, I don't feel old or outdated.
Control Panel is likely to go away. Even if it remains it's a very crippled version of the original Control Panel. I feel out of sync because while the out-of-the-box experience with Windows 7 is good, Windows 10 makes me want to change EVERYTHING. All the apps. GONE. Replacements for calculator, sticky notes, Mail and all the other appified programs need to be installed. The you have to take care of telemetry, updates and settings. The Settings app makes me dizzy. I wish it wasn't there and that I could find a nice third party settings program that presented the settings in a more elegant way. Think Control Panel.
Reply #12 Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:24 PM
Control Panel is likely to go away. Even if it remains it's a very crippled version of the original Control Panel.
Sadly, Microsoft, in its 'wisdom', has hacked out some of the key elements of Windows past.... Like parts of Control Panel, Windows Media Centre, etc. There are probably others but I can't think of then right now... damned vertigo messes with my concentration, etc.
Anyway, Control Panel is mostly there in Win 10, and that's what I use over 'Settings'. However, there are some 3rd-party programs that bring back functionality and ease of access back to Windows since things began 'disappearing'.... I often check out System Tools over at majorgeeks for new releases that may replace or better MS utilities. In fact, there's a whole raft of great freeware and shareware that betters MS' offerings at majorgeeks.
Still, Microsoft could have done better with Win 10, in many respects, but I just see things getting worse as Windows moves over to a subscription service and users are forced to pay to use their OWN PCs. Subscription models for 'non-essential' software is one thing, and people have a choice to subscribe or not, but a subscription for an operating system is not in the best interests of users... like when 'hiccups' occur over 'payment' and MS shuts it down. Nope, it is not a good idea, and while some say the Windows subscription model will never happen, I believe it is inevitable.
Reply #13 Wednesday, December 21, 2016 5:02 AM
Because there have been multiple references to age by virtue of Windows 10 making one feel old, or like one's grandfather, I'm wondering just how old are we all? I will be 50 next year. <pause> Whoa. I'll be FIFTY. Pardon me, I think I need a moment.
Ok, I'm back. I absolutely love Windows 10 (and equally loved 8.1, 8, 7, XP, 98, and even 3.1--Vista and ME were pretty terrible, even for me). I only use any of the touch features when I'm using my tablet or my phone, and frankly can't see me ever using a touch-screen desktop display. Honestly, I am the type that is most often sitting here with my feet on my desk leaning completely back in my chair with my keyboard in my lap so using a touch monitor would involve becoming much more talented with my toe dexterity and I can't see toe talents as a new trick this almost-but-thank-god-not-quite 50 years old dog wants to learn!
Beyond that i love most every new feature there is and sorry, but this includes silent "forced" updates as well. I use Cortana at least 20 times a day and though it did take a bit of time to get used to speaking to her, now it's second nature and I think anyone that gave it some time to get past that learning curve would feel the same way.
I feel that way, as a matter of fact, about all of the features in this upgrade and just about every one Microsoft has ever released.
Reply #14 Saturday, December 24, 2016 10:54 PM
@ bbscruffybuck
And in which division at Microsoft did you say you worked?
Nah, seriously, if you're happy with Win 10 then good for you.
Reply #15 Friday, September 1, 2017 9:07 PM
Not surprisingly, this is not the first time I've been suspected of being a Microsoft employee (though I am not). My ex, however, was (actually still is) an employee in their System Center Configuration Manager division, and even he often said that I was more of a Microsoft cheerleader than anyone on his team!
I admit I'm what we call in my industry (consumer market research) a Brand Loyalist. A Brand Loyalist, for the most part, tends to be loyal to a brand through thick and thin, quickly migrates to a brand's evolving technology and usually adapts to any changes quite easily, eager to be "out with the old and in with the new." Funny thing is, if someone ever asked me--whether in the context of my work, or as 'just' a consumer--I would have adamantly denied being a brand loyalist, and professed to choose software based solely on merit, usefulness and other more traditional factors. It wasn't until I moved away from my iPhones and Androids into the world of Windows Mobile, which then became Windows Phone 8 and finally, Windows Phone 10 did I realize what a loyalist I am. For a very long time, I held on to my much-beloved phones that in theory did all the things I loved and had cutting edge features others hadn't imagined....and I waited for the world to catch up with my "enlightened" opinion. And waited. And waited. And waited.
Last month, I finally threw in the towel for a multitude of reasons and switched back to an Android device which, was cheaper, has more storage, a faster processor and, with the installation of just one App--Cortana--offers me just about all the Windows 10 multi-device integration I wanted and access to about a zillion apps that were STILL not available for the Windows Phone platform.
As my Windows 10, Fall Creators Update (Windows Insider Preview) just finished installing on my home PC this afternoon, I've been eagerly installing old favorites (hence my visit to Stardock for Windows FX and Icon Packager to start), and I must say, I'm still on board with Windows 10 as it moves forward. I'm wondering now how all of you are doing with your Windows 10 experiences, or whether or not you're still using previous versions by choice...?
Anyone?
Reply #17 Thursday, September 21, 2017 9:46 PM
I am still doing the same as when I first posted in July of 2016. I have no use for Windows 10 other than changing it by designing Windowblinds skins. Windows 7 is still, and will always be my primary OS.
Reply #18 Thursday, September 21, 2017 11:46 PM
Thanks bbscruffybuck for your kind words, and enjoy!
Reply #19 Friday, September 22, 2017 12:08 AM
I'm still on board with Windows 10 as it moves forward. I'm wondering now how all of you are doing with your Windows 10 experiences, or whether or not you're still using previous versions by choice...?
Anyone?
All of my computers other than the primary one I am always using are on Win 10.
Probably says a lot that the $10,000 'beast' is still on Win 7 ...![]()
Reply #20 Friday, September 22, 2017 10:45 AM
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Reply #1 Tuesday, July 26, 2016 9:26 PM
My primary OS is Windows 7, I also have Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 (triple boot) installed for creating Windowblinds skins. As far as the features in 10, I really don't find any of them useful at all. I stay in Windows 7 90% of the time. It is the finest OS Microsoft ever released, and it is really sad that they screwed things up with Windows 8, 8.1 and 10. Why would they ruin the perfect OS, Windows 7?