CPU

Thursday, March 27, 2003 by citats | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk

I do not want to sound like a commercial for a product or anything but I need to share with everyone my new found speed... I found a way to upgrade my aging P2 450 (old BX440 intel board) ... now running at 1.4 ghz! Weeeeeeeeee... sandra bench mark tests were as follows.
P2 450
Dhrystone ALU 1170 mips
Whetstone FPU 587 MFLOPS

new Tualatin 1400 mhz (celeron)
Dhrystone ALU 3832 mips
Whetstone FPU 1867 MFLOPS

this performance does indeed pour over into real world use... games I never could run b4 now fly...

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IPlural
Reply #1 Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:45 PM


is good!

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goodmorphing
Reply #2 Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:35 PM


...Um... Static? Are you the guy who was expecting to have a new baby in the family any time now?
citats
Reply #3 Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:40 PM
Yes that was I... still waiting... just past 37 weeks... she still is having periodic Braxten hicks... but no baby yet.

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goodmorphing
Reply #4 Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:57 PM
Sounds like your life is on a roll! Good to hear. Keep us updated about the baby, OK? How is your new house?
White_Moth
Reply #5 Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:21 PM
I am running a P3 450 on a Tabor MP440BX, would it work on mine?

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kona0197
Reply #6 Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:47 PM
Everyone with a intel (crap) chip should consider switching over to a AMD chip. Better benchmarks.
White_Moth
Reply #7 Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:57 PM
Sorry Kona0197, but out of necessity, I taught myself how to build this only computer from the scraps of three others that I was able to procure from throwaways.

Until I can easily afford to buy a new one, this one will have to suffice. I take great pride in being able to salvage junk piles and give them new life.

For some of us, we cannot afford the luxury of of choice.

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citats
Reply #8 Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:03 PM
I'm with you jake I've done the very same... the only money I really spent on it was on the Proc... it was about $170 us... but I paid $250 canadian.
I don't know if it will work on yours or not. There is a utility they have that you can run it. Email them the results and they will email you back with any possible upgrade suggestions.
post your email. I'll send you the link.

Goodmorphing... so far so good... thanks for asking.

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White_Moth
Reply #9 Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:14 PM
Thanks §tatic, I will give it a try.

Best wishes on the new upcoming addition.

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kona0197
Reply #10 Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:47 PM
@ jake11

I only spent a total of $290 on this system:

AMD Athlon XP 2200 @1.9 ghz
K7S5A Mainboard with SIS 745 Chipset
128 DDR 2100 Memory
SIS 64 MEG 8x AGP Video Card
40 Gig HD
DVD drive
Black Case with See thru side

All these parts are brand new, in the box. I never use used stuff.
citats
Reply #11 Friday, March 28, 2003 12:05 AM
kona0197 I've noticed that you seem to hate anything that is successful... like MS and Intel... so tell me how you gonna get OS X running on your AMD? Or is the power PC chip ok with you... IBM had a hand in creating that chip... they are pretty successful as well...

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kona0197
Reply #12 Friday, March 28, 2003 12:36 AM
I don't hate everything successful. that not true. I just don't like Intel because everyone knows that AMD chips run cooler, outperform Intel chips, and cost less. As far as Microsoft, why should I pay $299 dollars for a OS that the bugs are still being worked out of? I am using a microsoft product right now. It's called Windows ME. Far less complicated and takes up way less space. As far as OS X, I'm gonna sell this computer and buy a apple. Since a apple is unix based, they hardly ever crash.
citats
Reply #13 Friday, March 28, 2003 12:40 AM
I read that you plan on buying an apple... but as they say don't put all your apples in one basket... hehe... anyway you should do some more research on apples version of unix ... you might find some eye opening er... shall we say bugs! They are going thru growing pains of their own.

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citats
Reply #14 Friday, March 28, 2003 12:44 AM
I just don't think that what is suitable for one is suitable for all... different uses and different circumstances will determine what is "best"
There is no way I can get an AMD that will run faster then the Tualatin 1.4 on my BX board without any mods... so for me Intel is #1 at the moment

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kona0197
Reply #15 Friday, March 28, 2003 12:52 AM
usually mainboard don't run both AMD and intel, being that the two chips are different sizes and voltages. But you could go to outpost.com and check out the deals they have there. For $100 bucks you can get a good mainboard and a AMD 2400 chip. And if you put a AMD system of the SAME speed and configuration next to your system, SiSandra would confirm that the AMD system blows Intel out of the water.
kona0197
Reply #16 Friday, March 28, 2003 1:04 AM
And just for something to think about check this out:
I ran SiSandra on my chip and came up with this:
AMD Athlon Xp 2200+ 1.8GHz
Dhrystone ALU 5007
Whetstone FPU 2505
As compared to a Pentium 4 2.6 GHZ:
Dhrystone ALU 4904
Whetstone FPU:
1385
So as we see, a AMD Athlon XP running at 1.8 Ghz slaps the crap and gives a weggie to a P4 running over at 2 GHz.
citats
Reply #17 Friday, March 28, 2003 1:05 AM
I don't know that, that would be possible... my system uses a 100 mhz FSB. This chip uses a 14x multiplier and a special voltage regulator built onto the slot 1 converter by powerleap which control the exact output. ( no AMD in the 1.4 ghz realm runs on 100 mhz so the comparison could not be made)
This is why a machine that was meant to run nothing faster then a P2 500 can push 1.4 ghz. of coarse there are obvious bottle necks in the 100 mhz sdram and the hard drive speed but I firmly believe I have succeeded in allowing myself to get a couple more years from this beast. And with a baby on the way thats a really good thing.. I need money for other things.

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kona0197
Reply #18 Friday, March 28, 2003 1:12 AM
Actually you caught my intrest. How would I make my friends p2 450 system run that fast? And I think even the Durons run at 133 so your right. But you have to admit AMD is cool. And cheaper. How soon until your a dad?
citats
Reply #19 Friday, March 28, 2003 1:21 AM
anytime now... we both want it out... hehe.
its definitely a possibility what type of mother board is he running?
I hate to post an ad but this is the url http://www.powerleap.com for US or http://www.powerleap.ca for canada. on the left hand side of the page you will see a large button that says find an upgrade it is a test that you can run in your browser then send the info to them... they will email back with a possible upgrade. For me it was literally plug and play on my BX.

I should send them my resume... sorry bout the addy ppl.

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kona0197
Reply #20 Friday, March 28, 2003 1:30 AM
Thanks. Any thoughts about what I said about upgrading? The board I have can use SDRAM and DDR RAM without changing anything.

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