Need some help please
Monday, March 24, 2003 by knatzz | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
I got a comment on my skin that the XP start panel was showing up completely black, which shouldn't be... like if I forgot to add the "translucency IS being used" feature to the section. I haven't been able to contact the person who posted the problem, and it looks as it should on my machine. If someone could download it and tell me if the start panel looks as it does on the screenshot, or if it is in fact all blacked out I would really appreciate it. https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?library=1&skinid=3175 Thanks in advance 
knatzz
Reply #2 Monday, March 24, 2003 3:01 AM
Reply #2 Monday, March 24, 2003 3:01 AM
First off, thankyou for taking the time. The background is black, but there should be a button between the background and the text, like in the screen, why it is doing that I don't know cause it's fine for me, even when I delete the entire skin and download it from here. What version of WB are you running? Maybe there is a bug in a bug in WB? I am really confused about this 
But at least I know it's not just one person, and explains the rating I got on it. Hmmm. Thanks again though 
But at least I know it's not just one person, and explains the rating I got on it. Hmmm. Thanks again though 
Delicious
Reply #3 Monday, March 24, 2003 5:17 AM
Reply #3 Monday, March 24, 2003 5:17 AM
It is not your skin that is the problem but windowblinds.
You have 2 image panel button back but wb doesn't show the first frame.
THis is a flaw of the new wb. You might want to comment at your skin that the skin does not look right using the new wb but looks OK using 3.5
Long live Windowblinds 3.5
You have 2 image panel button back but wb doesn't show the first frame.
THis is a flaw of the new wb. You might want to comment at your skin that the skin does not look right using the new wb but looks OK using 3.5
Long live Windowblinds 3.5
Jafo
Reply #5 Monday, March 24, 2003 8:17 AM
Reply #5 Monday, March 24, 2003 8:17 AM
Again I'm forced to correct Mis-information courtesy of Delicious.
When a proggy is available in 'Beta' form all sorts of things occur, or 'can' occur.
This is NOT a 'flaw in the new WB'....it is an anomoly in a BETA pre-release of the next 'new WB'....an entirely different situation.
It all comes down to perception, comprehension and non-slanderous comment.
When a proggy is available in 'Beta' form all sorts of things occur, or 'can' occur.
This is NOT a 'flaw in the new WB'....it is an anomoly in a BETA pre-release of the next 'new WB'....an entirely different situation.
It all comes down to perception, comprehension and non-slanderous comment.
knatzz
Reply #7 Monday, March 24, 2003 11:41 AM
Reply #7 Monday, March 24, 2003 11:41 AM
Yeah, I noticed the same problems on a couple of other skins too, really nice looking ones that have been put up recently, with incomplete xp start sections. I don't think it is WB that is doing it, I think it's the way skinstudio packages the .WBA file... (MHO) Is Stardock aware of this, and if not where is the appropriate place to tell them? BTW thsnkyou for the kind words Delicious, means alot condidering the source. Big fan of Graddy Ant amongst others.
Big fan of Graddy Ant amongst others.
Delicious
Reply #8 Monday, March 24, 2003 9:56 PM
Reply #8 Monday, March 24, 2003 9:56 PM
Sorry, I missed political expression 101 that day in school.
I don't recall mentioning anything about a final release having a flaw. Yeah if something doesn't work then my country sense sees it as a flaw.
I reserve the use of anomaly for celestial occurrences.
I don't recall mentioning anything about a final release having a flaw. Yeah if something doesn't work then my country sense sees it as a flaw.
I reserve the use of anomaly for celestial occurrences.
knatzz
Reply #9 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:38 AM
Reply #9 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:38 AM
HI,
Just thought I'd say that I mentioned this problem to the Skinstudio newsgroup, and they are looking into it. Also, for all WB artists, if you have upped a skin in the past few days using the latest Skinstudio/Windowblinds you might want to check out if this is affecting you, I know I am not the only one with this problem, I also downloaded a couple of newer skins over the weekend with problems in the start panel, just a heads up!
Just thought I'd say that I mentioned this problem to the Skinstudio newsgroup, and they are looking into it. Also, for all WB artists, if you have upped a skin in the past few days using the latest Skinstudio/Windowblinds you might want to check out if this is affecting you, I know I am not the only one with this problem, I also downloaded a couple of newer skins over the weekend with problems in the start panel, just a heads up!
Delicious
Reply #10 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:53 AM
Reply #10 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:53 AM
Did you get approval to use the term "problem" from the information manager. That might infer that wb has a problem which we all know is just an anomaly.
HuronJoe
Reply #11 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:48 AM
Reply #11 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:48 AM
Lighten up Ms. Delicious. Things always appear harsher in print then when spoken. When you (or Jafo for that matter are just kidding) you should probably use an icon such as 
or something. I made a comment a week or so ago that I only meant constructivly which looked terrible when I saw it as posted. I had to backstep a bit and still feel bad about it. It has forced me to keep a lot of my oppinions to myself rather then for anyone to mis-construe them.
HuronJoe keeps his foot in his mouth a bit longer now before saying anything anymore.
or something. I made a comment a week or so ago that I only meant constructivly which looked terrible when I saw it as posted. I had to backstep a bit and still feel bad about it. It has forced me to keep a lot of my oppinions to myself rather then for anyone to mis-construe them.HuronJoe keeps his foot in his mouth a bit longer now before saying anything anymore.
Jafo
Reply #12 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:55 AM
Reply #12 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:55 AM
Delicious on more than one occasion now you have shown a lack of understanding of the concept of Public Beta software and its inherent expectation of potential bugs and de-activated features, insinuating, no, stating that this is a clear failing of the software.
On occasion, a limited public gets the opportunity to be on the ground floor, or at the 'coal face' of new program development.....before it is released as a 'full' public program.
OD subscribers have this opportunity....the 'assumption' being that they are sufficiently computer-savvy or at least Stardock-skin-customization-program savvy [in this case] to be able to distinguish between an Alpha, Beta or Full release, and perhaps provide valuable product function feedback.
Instead the response is...'keep away from WB4...it's buggy as hell, etc'....when all you needed to say was 'be careful, pre-release Betas can have strange behaviour, but so far I have found 3.5 to be OK'.
It's all about wording and perception.
For the record, sarcasm is not becoming.
On occasion, a limited public gets the opportunity to be on the ground floor, or at the 'coal face' of new program development.....before it is released as a 'full' public program.
OD subscribers have this opportunity....the 'assumption' being that they are sufficiently computer-savvy or at least Stardock-skin-customization-program savvy [in this case] to be able to distinguish between an Alpha, Beta or Full release, and perhaps provide valuable product function feedback.
Instead the response is...'keep away from WB4...it's buggy as hell, etc'....when all you needed to say was 'be careful, pre-release Betas can have strange behaviour, but so far I have found 3.5 to be OK'.
It's all about wording and perception.
For the record, sarcasm is not becoming.
Delicious
Reply #13 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:29 AM
Reply #13 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:29 AM
THis is a flaw of the new wb. You might want to comment at your skin that the skin does not look right using the new wb but looks OK using 3.5
Flaw: An imperfection, often concealed, that impairs soundness.
A defect or shortcoming in something.
American Heritage Dictionary
I don't see anything wrong with the comment I made. It seems to me that someone must have stock in Stardock to be so sensitive about my choice of words.
I repeat, I never mentioned that WB 4 was the final release or a beta so correcting me in such a manner was uncalled for and unnecessary.
Flaw: An imperfection, often concealed, that impairs soundness.
A defect or shortcoming in something.
American Heritage Dictionary
I don't see anything wrong with the comment I made. It seems to me that someone must have stock in Stardock to be so sensitive about my choice of words.
I repeat, I never mentioned that WB 4 was the final release or a beta so correcting me in such a manner was uncalled for and unnecessary.
Jafo
Reply #14 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:37 AM
Reply #14 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 7:37 AM
Combined with previous comments it was.
I have a long memory.
I am not 'sensitive', just patently aware of your ongoing 'barbs'.
BTW....bad move playing the semantics card with the one with the 'icon'....
I have a long memory.
I am not 'sensitive', just patently aware of your ongoing 'barbs'.
BTW....bad move playing the semantics card with the one with the 'icon'....
Delicious
Reply #15 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:31 AM
Reply #15 Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:31 AM
Delicious saves a rebuttal for the finished version of WB
HuronJoe
Reply #17 Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:01 PM
Reply #17 Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:01 PM
Ah Jafo but your not the only one that can use the "Icon"
Hmmm, I guess you are. I put it into my little icon base on my pc but was unable to paste it into the message. It must be nice to be King.
Hmmm, I guess you are. I put it into my little icon base on my pc but was unable to paste it into the message. It must be nice to be King.
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Reply #1 Monday, March 24, 2003 2:53 AM