US is going to war tomarrow... dang...
Sunday, March 16, 2003 by IPlural | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
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JollyFE
Reply #383 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:16 PM
Reply #383 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:16 PM
WOW! Aren't you guys lucky there are those who are and were willing to place their lives on the line and in many cases make that ultimate sacrifice so you can enjoy your freedom. I imagine if you were to make these thoughts known in North Korea, Iraq or a number of other places you would be executed out of hand.
Enjoy your freedom, because if you lose it. You deserve it.
JollyFe
Vietnam Combat Vet
24+ years in the USAF
Enjoy your freedom, because if you lose it. You deserve it.
JollyFe
Vietnam Combat Vet
24+ years in the USAF
Buzz_Hog
Reply #384 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:17 PM
Reply #384 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:17 PM
He's not one to judge, so he'd let him kill him cause the guy would be put in jail and brought to justice..
paxx
Reply #385 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:17 PM
Reply #385 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:17 PM
If everyone in Iraq and North Korea thought like me, there woult be no problem now, would it?
Buzz_Hog
Reply #386 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:18 PM
Reply #386 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:18 PM
Semper Fi JollyFE... Glad to know ya brother!!
Buzz_Hog
Reply #388 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:20 PM
Reply #388 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:20 PM
It's a bit narcisistic to think that everyone should think like you, isn't it?
Elfkura
Reply #389 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:20 PM
Reply #389 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:20 PM
Rape, attack against females, of course our shinning knights in armor needs to bring that up. Why only use women, we aren't as weak as you think.
Quit bringing up the issue of rape. Easy for so many people to bring it up, but geez, quit using women as the only example... woman and children.
You think putting people through war is any better than putting women all that stuff you mentioned? Yeah, why not read up on a few books about war and what psychological devastating effects some children have from it?
I'm off to class, any comments directed towards me will probably be answered at least 4.5 hours later.
Quit bringing up the issue of rape. Easy for so many people to bring it up, but geez, quit using women as the only example... woman and children.
You think putting people through war is any better than putting women all that stuff you mentioned? Yeah, why not read up on a few books about war and what psychological devastating effects some children have from it?
I'm off to class, any comments directed towards me will probably be answered at least 4.5 hours later.
Green Armani
Reply #390 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:29 PM
Reply #390 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:29 PM
I feel for you paxx because the day your faced with a life or death situation you would rather die then defend yourself even if it meant killing someone. If you have a girlfriend or wife I suggest you tell them that you plan on wimping out before hand so that if your ever faced with a life or death situation you'll turn and run.
I'm glad I'm surrounded by Marines who will not only dive on a grenande or even risk their own hide to save mine and I'd do the same, but you........I just feel sorry for you.
I'm glad I'm surrounded by Marines who will not only dive on a grenande or even risk their own hide to save mine and I'd do the same, but you........I just feel sorry for you.
paxx
Reply #391 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:32 PM
Reply #391 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:32 PM
Buzz, I'm not the one who introduced the idea of "If everyboby did like you".
If everybody was peaceful, there would be no war. Isn't that common sense?
If everybody was peaceful, there would be no war. Isn't that common sense?
paxx
Reply #392 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:33 PM
Reply #392 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:33 PM
Green Armani: I would dive on a grenade to protect my loved ones, but I wold never throw one.
Don't confused convictions and honourable values to cowardice.
Don't confused convictions and honourable values to cowardice.
Buzz_Hog
Reply #393 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:34 PM
Reply #393 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:34 PM
Firstly, it's "Knights in shining armor"
Secondly, I used mother and wife, bacause Saddam is not accused of raping a man...
Thirdly, I can bring up any issue I want, it's my constitutional right to do so.
Fourthly, didn't realize it was such a sore topic for you, you may want to seek treatment for that. Perhaps read a book to better understand your devastating psychological taumas.
Fifthly, "You think putting people through war is any better than putting women all that stuff you mentioned?" What the hell is that supposed to mean??? Speak in properly formed sentences please.
and Lastly, I prefer to speak on topics in which I have some experience in real life. Speaking about a topic with book read knowledge alone provides for little validation of the speakers intellect. Great, they can remember what someone else had written and repeat someone elses thoughts, but does not show that the speaker has any ability to think for themselves.
Enjoy class...
Secondly, I used mother and wife, bacause Saddam is not accused of raping a man...
Thirdly, I can bring up any issue I want, it's my constitutional right to do so.
Fourthly, didn't realize it was such a sore topic for you, you may want to seek treatment for that. Perhaps read a book to better understand your devastating psychological taumas.
Fifthly, "You think putting people through war is any better than putting women all that stuff you mentioned?" What the hell is that supposed to mean??? Speak in properly formed sentences please.
and Lastly, I prefer to speak on topics in which I have some experience in real life. Speaking about a topic with book read knowledge alone provides for little validation of the speakers intellect. Great, they can remember what someone else had written and repeat someone elses thoughts, but does not show that the speaker has any ability to think for themselves.
Enjoy class...
JollyFE
Reply #394 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:34 PM
Reply #394 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:34 PM
Right on Green and Buzz.
Perhaps the next time paxx is wandering the beautiful French country side he should stop at one of the eleven American Battlefield Monuments located on French soil and tell the 60,486 buried there they should have believed like him. Then he should ask himself what kind of a country he would be living in if he did.
JollyFE
Perhaps the next time paxx is wandering the beautiful French country side he should stop at one of the eleven American Battlefield Monuments located on French soil and tell the 60,486 buried there they should have believed like him. Then he should ask himself what kind of a country he would be living in if he did.
JollyFE
JollyFE
Reply #395 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:36 PM
Reply #395 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:36 PM
Opps. Sorry... "...he did" should be "...they did"
JollyFE
JollyFE
Green Armani
Reply #396 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:38 PM
Reply #396 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:38 PM
That's fine but I still think you would have second thoughts and hesitation to do something........in the Marines "Hesitation Kills" and either way I'm glad you are not someone I will ever have to fight next to.
paxx
Reply #397 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:46 PM
Reply #397 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:46 PM
But you would be glad if I were someone you'd have to fight against. 
Jolly: I'll remember that if I go to France one day.
Jolly: I'll remember that if I go to France one day.
JollyFE
Reply #398 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:56 PM
Reply #398 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:56 PM
I was never "glad" to go to war. I was never "glad" to see my crew mates get shot-up. I was never "glad" to listen to a guy die on the radio when we couldn't get to them. I was never "glad" to know that when we went on mission the other guy was going to die. I wouldn't be "glad" to have to fight you. But, I'd fight you just the same if you were threatening my country, family, brothers-in-arms, way-of-life, ideals, etc.
JollyFE
JollyFE
Buzz_Hog
Reply #399 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:56 PM
Reply #399 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:56 PM
and I say again.....
"FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR IT, FREEDOM HAS A TASTE THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW YOU CAN DISGRACE MY LEADERS YOU CAN SPIT ON ME YOU CAN THINK WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE I AM THERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS I DIE SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO
I CHOOSE TO GIVE MY LIFE UP FOR THIS COUNTRY I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO WITH IT BUT I MAKE IT SO YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT"
"FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT FOR IT, FREEDOM HAS A TASTE THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW YOU CAN DISGRACE MY LEADERS YOU CAN SPIT ON ME YOU CAN THINK WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE I AM THERE TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS I DIE SO YOU DO NOT HAVE TO
I CHOOSE TO GIVE MY LIFE UP FOR THIS COUNTRY I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU DO WITH IT BUT I MAKE IT SO YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT"
paxx
Reply #400 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:00 PM
Reply #400 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 1:00 PM
Listen, it's your career, you chose it for a reason. I won't argue your values, they are yours and you are free to have them. Nobody can take that away from you, it's you and it's in your heart. I love you for who you are.
Just stay in peace that I would never take part of the invasion of your country and in killing your people.
Just stay in peace that I would never take part of the invasion of your country and in killing your people.
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Reply #381 Wednesday, March 19, 2003 12:14 PM