Huston, I think we have a problem!!!!!
Friday, February 28, 2003 by adni18 | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Jafo, I think we ALL have a problem!
I have just been informed that there is a company with the name Delphi-VCL Skin that sales the “Skin Engine” and with their product the give a huge number of skins, which means that the buyers of SkinEngine, can use those skins for having a profit with their business.
Here comes the good part of it!
The skins that they sell are all the works of known authors of WinCustomize, like Alexandrie, treetog, Mike Bryant, Grayhaze, essorant and many others.
There are no names, no credits, nothing, just an ID number of the skin.
Any one can download the skins for free, but the professionals can use them for their applications, sites etc and the have the right for the profit they will get, because the have purchase the Skin Engine!!!!!
I think this is too heavy to accept it.
I hope that our Official Layer Jafo will take care of it.
So, here something to start with Paul.
The following skin ID numbers are my skins:
0330
0294
0394
0379
0392
0177
0178
0034
0138
0377
0378
0060
0383
0353
0165
0249
0051
0203
0147
0075
0067
0030
0107
0055
0092
The link of those clever guys is:
http://www.link-rank.com/lib/lib1p.htm
I have just been informed that there is a company with the name Delphi-VCL Skin that sales the “Skin Engine” and with their product the give a huge number of skins, which means that the buyers of SkinEngine, can use those skins for having a profit with their business.
Here comes the good part of it!
The skins that they sell are all the works of known authors of WinCustomize, like Alexandrie, treetog, Mike Bryant, Grayhaze, essorant and many others.
There are no names, no credits, nothing, just an ID number of the skin.
Any one can download the skins for free, but the professionals can use them for their applications, sites etc and the have the right for the profit they will get, because the have purchase the Skin Engine!!!!!
I think this is too heavy to accept it.
I hope that our Official Layer Jafo will take care of it.
So, here something to start with Paul.
The following skin ID numbers are my skins:
0330
0294
0394
0379
0392
0177
0178
0034
0138
0377
0378
0060
0383
0353
0165
0249
0051
0203
0147
0075
0067
0030
0107
0055
0092
The link of those clever guys is:
http://www.link-rank.com/lib/lib1p.htm
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IPlural
Reply #23 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:13 PM
Reply #23 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:13 PM
Thats what I was thinking also, but not really sure because I've only opened SS twice so far and only to take a look at the screens and then help.. 
jebland
Reply #24 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:17 PM
Reply #24 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:17 PM
The file sizes are awfully small...Wonder if it is a rip of Windowblinds 1.?
I downloaded one, but couldn't open it. (.skn format)
I downloaded one, but couldn't open it. (.skn format)
IPlural
Reply #25 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:20 PM
Reply #25 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:20 PM
maybe, but ir might also be that it being Delphi, they can used a different compression schema on the graphics so they start out smaller to begin with?
adni18
Reply #26 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:23 PM
Reply #26 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:23 PM
They don't have all the parts of the skin jebland, that is why are small, are in binary format and also are the latest skins
DavidK
Reply #27 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:23 PM
Reply #27 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:23 PM
I sent them an email asking if they are open to discussing compensation for all the artists whose work they are using illegally. I wonder if they'll reply?
noahfirth
Reply #28 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:33 PM
Reply #28 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:33 PM
These are definately rip-offs of Windowblinds I and it irks me to see that.
werewolf
Reply #29 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:36 PM
Reply #29 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:36 PM
They even ripped one of my 2 (yes, count 'em) 2 windowblinds skins. First time ever being ripped. I e-mailed them. 
IPlural
Reply #30 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:39 PM
hey, a mile stone!! not a good one, but still a mile stone !
Reply #30 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:39 PM
hey, a mile stone!! not a good one, but still a mile stone !
werewolf
Reply #33 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:48 PM
Reply #33 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:48 PM
Oh I'm sure they don't. Works from all the great ones are in there. It's just so frustrating that there doesn't seem to be a really good way of dealing with these folks. I guess, even if my skin wasn't there, I still take this personally. Wincusto and all you folks are sort of like a second home (isn't that pathetic 
) and it just pisses me off that someone can steal from my home like this and get away with it.
) and it just pisses me off that someone can steal from my home like this and get away with it.
da_zman20
Reply #34 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:58 PM
Reply #34 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:58 PM
I even saw some of your adni?? do you remember giving them permission??? those guys... grrr... like they didn't know it was wrong to take someone elses work and take credit for it... grrrr....
IPlural
Reply #35 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:58 PM
Reply #35 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:58 PM
mm, actually it could be hard coded into the products and then the skins have a key generated and imbeded into an obscure file that has to match the compiling SS editor, even if you add your key with a text editor for those cutting skins with those and run the skin against SS before posting. WB could then cross reference against the registration number used to register the products online to ensure the owner is running the product and the product is registed to make use of the skin/theme... or maybe not, just thinking with my fingers...
probably just opened myself up to 50 rants and such for even thinking it let alone openly mentioning it
probably just opened myself up to 50 rants and such for even thinking it let alone openly mentioning it
IPlural
Reply #36 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:59 PM
Reply #36 Friday, February 28, 2003 4:59 PM
I ma keep my mind shut now on...
yeah, they need to be dinked for sure....
yeah, they need to be dinked for sure....
Peff
Reply #37 Friday, February 28, 2003 5:02 PM
Reply #37 Friday, February 28, 2003 5:02 PM
Should they be nuked? Not that I would ever do that...Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire....just asking....
da_zman20
Reply #38 Friday, February 28, 2003 5:03 PM
Reply #38 Friday, February 28, 2003 5:03 PM
send an email to their ISP... the people that host their site and have them taken off... send them links to specific skins here... and mention about theft... and copyright... but I know you guys have more classy terms... but get them taken off line... think like micrsoft would... WWMD??? microsoft would have them taken off the net... and have a big microsoft graphic put up... instead of their site..
microsoft would have them taken off the net... and have a big microsoft graphic put up... instead of their site.. 
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Reply #21 Friday, February 28, 2003 3:52 PM
I noticed the SkinBuilder, isn't that someone elses sotware also?