Linux version of Windows (Lindows)
Friday, February 28, 2003 by joetheblow | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Does LiteStep work on linux platforms? Would it work on Lindows?
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moshi
Reply #2 Friday, February 28, 2003 7:44 AM
Reply #2 Friday, February 28, 2003 7:44 AM
first: forget Lindows, there are much better distributions that are available for free.
LiteStep on Linux? sounds tempting, but i highly doubt it would work. you might be able to put simpler things as lsnotes or rainmation on your desktop using WINE, but stuff like the desktop, tasks, recycle bin or system tray and most likely metering won´t work.
better have a look into Enlightenment. it does not only skin the windows, but is also capable to build full desktop environments.
a friend of mine (pixelmasochist aka babyhead) has started porting this: http://www.deskmod.com/core.mod?state=view&skin_id=3367 to Enlightenment and it´s about 90% accurate.
LiteStep on Linux? sounds tempting, but i highly doubt it would work. you might be able to put simpler things as lsnotes or rainmation on your desktop using WINE, but stuff like the desktop, tasks, recycle bin or system tray and most likely metering won´t work.
better have a look into Enlightenment. it does not only skin the windows, but is also capable to build full desktop environments.
a friend of mine (pixelmasochist aka babyhead) has started porting this: http://www.deskmod.com/core.mod?state=view&skin_id=3367 to Enlightenment and it´s about 90% accurate.
kthxbye
Reply #5 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:18 AM
Reply #5 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:18 AM
"look into Enlightenment. it does not only skin the windows,"
What Moshi forgets to mention however is that it's a *nix Window manager's job to handle window appearance.
What Moshi forgets to mention however is that it's a *nix Window manager's job to handle window appearance.
IPlural
Reply #6 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:29 AM
yep Enlightenment
.. does KDE still eat up resources like a hog?
oh here are a couple of useful link for linux
eLinux.com : it is a outlet for hardware and such but also has forums and such online with other information.
http://www.elinux.com
Linux FORMAT
http://www.linuxformat.co.uk
Linux Users Groups WorldWide (LUGWW) project
http://lugww.counter.li.org/
Linux User Groups (Online)
http://www.linux.org/groups/
Reply #6 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:29 AM
yep Enlightenment 
.. does KDE still eat up resources like a hog?oh here are a couple of useful link for linux
eLinux.com : it is a outlet for hardware and such but also has forums and such online with other information.
http://www.elinux.com
Linux FORMAT
http://www.linuxformat.co.uk
Linux Users Groups WorldWide (LUGWW) project
http://lugww.counter.li.org/
Linux User Groups (Online)
http://www.linux.org/groups/
kthxbye
Reply #7 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:03 PM
Reply #7 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:03 PM
"does KDE still eat up resources like a hog?"
It has never done that for me! I imagine the newest uses a bit more resources though - with the additional eye-candy, but I've never found it a resource hog. It's no blackbox, but at least it's no Gnome either!
kthxbye still shudders at the mere mention of Enlightenment though. I still have e16 nightmares.
It has never done that for me! I imagine the newest uses a bit more resources though - with the additional eye-candy, but I've never found it a resource hog. It's no blackbox, but at least it's no Gnome either!
kthxbye still shudders at the mere mention of Enlightenment though. I still have e16 nightmares.
citats
Reply #8 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:25 PM
Reply #8 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:25 PM
Native windows emulation in lindows is indeed still there... too avoid as much of Microsofts ire as possible they agreed they would stop pushing lindows as a direct alternative to Windows so they down play the compatibility... but from the very begining it has been Wine with some extra customization... Lindows is a good alternative for those who wish to try linux but do not have the knowlegde to get started right away... they have made installing programs quite painless but yes it comes at the cost of a subscription.
IPlural
Reply #9 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:47 PM
Reply #9 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:47 PM
I think it was KDE 2? that I had the resource problems with, it very well could have been a driver issue though. PCI S3 video card could have been the one doing the dirty deed?
I did always like the layout and look/feel of KDE, Gnome was ok, but got hooked on Enlightenment at a lan party and never switched after.
Have to check out the new KDE, also there is the "ksysv" now to check things out and see where you can tweak
I did always like the layout and look/feel of KDE, Gnome was ok, but got hooked on Enlightenment at a lan party and never switched after.
Have to check out the new KDE, also there is the "ksysv" now to check things out and see where you can tweak
joetheblow
Reply #10 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:30 PM
Reply #10 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:30 PM
ok
I don't think I have ever seen a computer running Linux. How do you iuse it? Is it all code? I thought LiteStep would work because it is so programable and a shell replacement.
So what IS the inteface on a Linux computer?
I don't think I have ever seen a computer running Linux. How do you iuse it? Is it all code? I thought LiteStep would work because it is so programable and a shell replacement.
So what IS the inteface on a Linux computer?
IPlural
Reply #11 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:57 PM
Reply #11 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:57 PM
ever seen a SCO/Unix or any Unix box for that matter?
with a window-manager loaded you've got a gui and you can theme it
without, then you have a prompt and or ascii menus that run scripts and such.
bit more evolved than that now I guess, but boils back down to it still...
some links up thread you could go take a look around if curious about it...
with a window-manager loaded you've got a gui and you can theme it
without, then you have a prompt and or ascii menus that run scripts and such.
bit more evolved than that now I guess, but boils back down to it still...
some links up thread you could go take a look around if curious about it...
IPlural
Reply #12 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:59 PM
Reply #12 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:59 PM
btw: AIX is a rock solid investment for certification, Joe...
you get good with it and know you stuff $$$$$ just about anywhere in the world you'd like to live...
you get good with it and know you stuff $$$$$ just about anywhere in the world you'd like to live...
joetheblow
Reply #13 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:33 PM
Reply #13 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:33 PM
wow, thanks IPlural.
I have been noticing the rise of Linux (mostly for servers) and I am starting to hear allot of noice about desktop apps. I will do some reseach on the subject. It would be nice if you could "skin" Linux.
Now all I ned to find out is what is the difference between Linux and Unix.
thanks everyone for your help on this and the links.
I have been noticing the rise of Linux (mostly for servers) and I am starting to hear allot of noice about desktop apps. I will do some reseach on the subject. It would be nice if you could "skin" Linux.
Now all I ned to find out is what is the difference between Linux and Unix.
thanks everyone for your help on this and the links.
kthxbye
Reply #14 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:41 PM
Reply #14 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:41 PM
"So what IS the inteface on a Linux computer? "
Well, technically the interface on a Linux system is your wonderful little textual console - but really, next to nobody uses that anymore, thanks to the joys of X Windows.
There's no standard interface to *nix though, which is both one of its strengths /and/ a huge failing of it. There are a multitude of different window managers out there for users to take advantage of.
Well, technically the interface on a Linux system is your wonderful little textual console - but really, next to nobody uses that anymore, thanks to the joys of X Windows.
There's no standard interface to *nix though, which is both one of its strengths /and/ a huge failing of it. There are a multitude of different window managers out there for users to take advantage of.
joetheblow
Reply #15 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:53 PM
Reply #15 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:53 PM
anybody got a screen shot of thier Linux desktop? so far I haven't found any on line... but I only been looking for 10 minutes soooo... Maybe I should keep looking. Google made me lazy, now I do not remember how to do a real search bcause it is so easy on Google.
i wanted to do distance training for Linux certification... but I REALLY don't like on line classes.
i wanted to do distance training for Linux certification... but I REALLY don't like on line classes.
paxx
Reply #16 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:33 PM
Reply #16 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:33 PM
joetheblow: it's difficult to say what Linux looks like cause it can look so different depending on which distribution you use with which desktop manager and which themes you use on it.
For example, have a look at this demo of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (the one I have) http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.html .
Then browse over to the KDE web site (a desktop manager) and look at people's screenshots: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=screenshot, you could also peek at the world of Gnome (another desktop manager and check a few screenshots there http://art.gnome.org/screenshot_list.php?ARTSESSID=f056938f3c226895a3440b173ecd2481 .
Also, remember Carlitus? Here's one of his screenshots, using KDE: http://www.deviantart.com/view/1255847
For example, have a look at this demo of Red Hat Linux 8.0 (the one I have) http://www.redhat.com/software/linux/flash/redhat6_5.html .
Then browse over to the KDE web site (a desktop manager) and look at people's screenshots: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=screenshot, you could also peek at the world of Gnome (another desktop manager and check a few screenshots there http://art.gnome.org/screenshot_list.php?ARTSESSID=f056938f3c226895a3440b173ecd2481 .
Also, remember Carlitus? Here's one of his screenshots, using KDE: http://www.deviantart.com/view/1255847
IPlural
Reply #17 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:38 PM
Reply #17 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:38 PM
Welcome to the Enlightenment Project!
Enlightenment is a completely themeable, highly configurable Window Manager for the X Window System, traditionally used in Unix environments.
http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/main.html
Enlightenment is a completely themeable, highly configurable Window Manager for the X Window System, traditionally used in Unix environments.
http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/main.html
kthxbye
Reply #18 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:38 PM
Reply #18 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:38 PM
You want a screenshot of my linux desktop? Just look at my desktop picture on here. Minus 2 plugins (the bottom system bar, and the multiamp plugin on the left,) my desktop in Linux looks identical to my desktop in Windows (which is what the screenshot's of.)
(Well, I don't have CursorXP or Windowblinds in Linux/Blackbox either - but you don't need ém.)
(Well, I don't have CursorXP or Windowblinds in Linux/Blackbox either - but you don't need ém.
)
IPlural
Reply #19 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:42 PM
Reply #19 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:42 PM
Also Freshmeat.net is a good place to take a look at the possibilities
http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/56/?topic_id=56
http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/56/?topic_id=56
IPlural
Reply #20 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:45 PM
Reply #20 Friday, February 28, 2003 11:45 PM
same with mine kthxbye it's an Enlightenment dr15 theme: Dark Alloy by ~scarab...
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Reply #1 Friday, February 28, 2003 5:33 AM
But Wine still exists standalone, like it existed before Lindows. Wine can run Windows applications. To do this, a lot of Windows DLLs and other livraries have been "ported" to Linux. Somebody even "ported" DirectX. Paths (C:\Windows; C:\Program FIles; etc.) have to be remapped to work in your Linux directory structure, etc.
Anyway, all this to say that I don't know.
Maybe. But the desktop on Linux is very different from a desktop in Windows, that's the part that makes me wonder.
I have Wine installed, but I haven't finished RTFM yet, so I haven't configured anything yet. Maybe I'll give it a try some time.