Where’s that apple skin?
Thursday, February 27, 2003 by johnct | Discussion: WinCustomize Talk
Where’s that apple skin for desktop x, not sure who the author was, it was in the top downloads. I went to download it today and it gone. I hate it when artist remove their work, epically when it’s really good.
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kona0197
Reply #22 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:24 AM
Reply #22 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:24 AM
From me previous post...
why dosen't a person or group of people push apple into making a pc version of os x? that would settle everything plus give windows a run for its money. i would buy it.
why dosen't a person or group of people push apple into making a pc version of os x? that would settle everything plus give windows a run for its money. i would buy it.
IPlural
Reply #23 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:29 AM
Reply #23 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:29 AM
Koasati 
actually that is the one thing holding me up from loading SkinStudio, graphics, I am still working things out on paper to be put into paint and then into photoshop to slice up and such, so I can play with the layouts real time
I have to use structure with everything I do or I get lost in the mix and am left wondering what in the hell it is I am looking at when finished. If I loaded SkinStudio and started playing with it, it would take me weeks to recovery and get back to working out the design and graphics for anything.
oh well, Dissoid or not my attention span is either stone still or manic and bouncing all over the place. I had to ask the nurse when I went for my second nerve block in my lower back what the date was, last week. She says the 24th, and I said 24th what? she said Fen 24th and looked at me like I was stupid, and I asked, ok, what year and she about looked at me as if I was a moron or possessed
my wife was sitting in a chair about 15 feet away with her hand over her eyes head tilted down and shaking back and forth trying to conceal her giggles threatening to bust out in full blown laughter.
actually that is the one thing holding me up from loading SkinStudio, graphics, I am still working things out on paper to be put into paint and then into photoshop to slice up and such, so I can play with the layouts real time
I have to use structure with everything I do or I get lost in the mix and am left wondering what in the hell it is I am looking at when finished. If I loaded SkinStudio and started playing with it, it would take me weeks to recovery and get back to working out the design and graphics for anything.
oh well, Dissoid or not my attention span is either stone still or manic and bouncing all over the place. I had to ask the nurse when I went for my second nerve block in my lower back what the date was, last week. She says the 24th, and I said 24th what? she said Fen 24th and looked at me like I was stupid, and I asked, ok, what year and she about looked at me as if I was a moron or possessed my wife was sitting in a chair about 15 feet away with her hand over her eyes head tilted down and shaking back and forth trying to conceal her giggles threatening to bust out in full blown laughter.
IPlural
Reply #24 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:33 AM
Reply #24 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:33 AM
what the tail end of that post of mine has to do with anything... oh wait, it's becasue of the lack of structure... yeah thats the ticket !
yes it would give MS a two front pause... Linux is steam rolling up the hill at them and is probably going to do almost what NT did to Novell back in the early to mid 90's...
yes it would give MS a two front pause... Linux is steam rolling up the hill at them and is probably going to do almost what NT did to Novell back in the early to mid 90's...
Jafo
Reply #25 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:33 AM
Reply #25 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:33 AM
I mentioned on the other thread of the same topic...the difference between Microsoft images vs Apple images being used by skinners is that we are skinning for a Windows [Microsoft] platform, and NOT an Apple one.
Our work enhances or extends Microsoft's product...and I bet even Bill himself gets a chuckle seeing Apple graphics ported to his Windows OS.
The Opposite is quite clearly NOT the case. PC users/skinners are diluting the Apple product by this very same porting and there is absolutely no benefit to Apple what-so-ever, only diminished product identity.
At present, all the 'apple stuff' is merely 'tolerated'.
WHEN the Men In Suits come knocking things will change...
Our work enhances or extends Microsoft's product...and I bet even Bill himself gets a chuckle seeing Apple graphics ported to his Windows OS.
The Opposite is quite clearly NOT the case. PC users/skinners are diluting the Apple product by this very same porting and there is absolutely no benefit to Apple what-so-ever, only diminished product identity.
At present, all the 'apple stuff' is merely 'tolerated'.
WHEN the Men In Suits come knocking things will change...
IPlural
Reply #26 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:41 AM like Eddie Izzard doing his bit about England giving back all it's colonies and holding India and the Falkland Islands behind his back... England... Wuaaa, whats that behind your back, oh, all right it's just India and some silly little Islands which are a strategic location for Sheep Hearding protection ... give em back, oh all right, here...
Kind of blows me away here we are over 200 years later and the USA has allowed the arrogance and ignorance of old like that to fester and grow to the point of almost being a national motto...
AHHH duck and cover time !!!
Reply #26 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:41 AM
like Eddie Izzard doing his bit about England giving back all it's colonies and holding India and the Falkland Islands behind his back... England... Wuaaa, whats that behind your back, oh, all right it's just India and some silly little Islands which are a strategic location for Sheep Hearding protection ... give em back, oh all right, here...Kind of blows me away here we are over 200 years later and the USA has allowed the arrogance and ignorance of old like that to fester and grow to the point of almost being a national motto...
AHHH duck and cover time !!!
Peff
Reply #27 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:54 AM
Reply #27 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:54 AM
Lawyers are the root of all evil!!! 
Now it's duck and cover time, IP
Now it's duck and cover time, IP
KarmaGirl
Reply #29 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:03 AM
Reply #29 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:03 AM
It's not the "Apple" in the name that is the issue. It is the use of the Apple logo.
moshi
Reply #30 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:12 AM
Reply #30 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:12 AM
so what. look at page 1 of this thread. there are plenty of skins on this site that infringe the Apple logo. not to speak of the PixOS premium suite where even money is made with the Apple scrollbars. this site has double-standards quite often
IPlural
Reply #31 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:12 AM
Reply #31 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:12 AM
I'd sill change the name, because the use of Apple *is* against their registered trade mark of the word Apple and they ly it out how you can-not mix it with other words even...
The site would be best for reading on the subject and go by what is located there. I say this because it could be very costly to not fully understand their and your legal position in use of the Copyrighted and Registered Trademaked material..
anyway....
The site would be best for reading on the subject and go by what is located there. I say this because it could be very costly to not fully understand their and your legal position in use of the Copyrighted and Registered Trademaked material..
anyway....
paxx
Reply #32 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:24 AM
Reply #32 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:24 AM
moshi, there is also the "OK, this is enough" factor.
We did the same with the XP when everybody was trying to make a XP skin. We allowed the first few, but after a while, we just stopped accepting XP skins altogether.
We did the same with the XP when everybody was trying to make a XP skin. We allowed the first few, but after a while, we just stopped accepting XP skins altogether.
IPlural
Reply #33 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:29 AM
Reply #33 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:29 AM
or "Think Different"
dang keyboard is sticky, what I get for letting my daughter play disney online while eating buttered pop corn, which I didn't know about until after the fact...
ugh....
dang keyboard is sticky, what I get for letting my daughter play disney online while eating buttered pop corn, which I didn't know about until after the fact...
ugh....
KarmaGirl
Reply #34 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:42 AM
Reply #34 Friday, February 28, 2003 9:42 AM
Moshi, read the other thread on this by Adam Solley and read what Jafo says.
Plus, we are not talking about the "look". We are talking about using the logo. The actual Apple logo.
PixOS is quite different than OSX. Compare the two side by side and you will see. Not everything that has a gel appearance to it is a copy of OSX.
And, as Paxx said, the line has to be drawn somewhere. We don't need Apple coming after us. That's just too big of a pain to deal with.
Plus, we are not talking about the "look". We are talking about using the logo. The actual Apple logo.
PixOS is quite different than OSX. Compare the two side by side and you will see. Not everything that has a gel appearance to it is a copy of OSX.
And, as Paxx said, the line has to be drawn somewhere. We don't need Apple coming after us. That's just too big of a pain to deal with.
kona0197
Reply #36 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:11 AM
Reply #36 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:11 AM
Hey Adam I just email you. Can you get that skin to me? I want to see what has got everyone in a fuss about.
KarmaGirl
Reply #37 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:36 AM
Reply #37 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:36 AM
OK, it appears that people do not know what "logo" means.
You know the apple with a bite out of it that apple uses as a visual representation of itself? That is the Apple logo. It is tradmarked and they get really mad when you use it. It has nothing to do with the name of the skin.
You know the apple with a bite out of it that apple uses as a visual representation of itself? That is the Apple logo. It is tradmarked and they get really mad when you use it. It has nothing to do with the name of the skin.
IPlural
Reply #38 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:43 AM
Reply #38 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:43 AM
yep your correct Karamgirl, some don't seem to:
(Unauthorized Use of Apple Trademarks)
1. Company, Product, or Service Name: You may not use or register, ( in whole or in part,( Apple )), Macintosh, iMac, or any other Apple trademark, including Apple-owned graphic symbols, logos, icons, or an alteration thereof, as or as part of a company name, trade name, product name, or service name except as specifically noted in these guidelines.
(Unauthorized Use of Apple Trademarks)
1. Company, Product, or Service Name: You may not use or register, ( in whole or in part,( Apple )), Macintosh, iMac, or any other Apple trademark, including Apple-owned graphic symbols, logos, icons, or an alteration thereof, as or as part of a company name, trade name, product name, or service name except as specifically noted in these guidelines.
kona0197
Reply #39 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:44 AM
Reply #39 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:44 AM
I have a OS X skin BUT not any of em have ANY logs.
IPlural
Reply #40 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:51 AM
Reply #40 Friday, February 28, 2003 10:51 AM
the information continues to explain that you have to purchase the rights for use of those things.... It is all on the link up further in this thread and pretty clear...
but it really doesn't matter...
all I ment from the negining when first pointing that link out, was for people to read and consider so they can make their own choice about it all...
For myself the point is moot as I wouldn't do it, done worked that out personally. For others? As I said, it's their choice.
For Wensites provinding downloads?
Their choice again...
but it would be a hell of a thing to get a summons, or have someone standing at the front door to the office one morning with leal papers demanding they be allow unfettered access and if deamed needed, to remove all IT equpiment from the building all over a, oops, didn't know that.
I know that is a bit extream, but, even an extream possibility should be looked over and considered...
anyway... I'm appled out... on to Carrots...
but it really doesn't matter...
all I ment from the negining when first pointing that link out, was for people to read and consider so they can make their own choice about it all...
For myself the point is moot as I wouldn't do it, done worked that out personally. For others? As I said, it's their choice.
For Wensites provinding downloads?
Their choice again...
but it would be a hell of a thing to get a summons, or have someone standing at the front door to the office one morning with leal papers demanding they be allow unfettered access and if deamed needed, to remove all IT equpiment from the building all over a, oops, didn't know that.
I know that is a bit extream, but, even an extream possibility should be looked over and considered...
anyway... I'm appled out... on to Carrots...
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Reply #21 Friday, February 28, 2003 12:21 AM