AMD Claims Upcoming Zen CPUs on a Par With Intel
which if true has to be great for consumers
Thursday, May 7, 2015 by starkers | Discussion: Personal Computing
Just as the title says, AMD is claiming that its upcoming Zen processor, which will be based on 14nm process tecnology, will compete with the best Intel can produce. To be honest, I really hope so.
While my main machine is currently Intel based, I have run several AMD machines over the years and hope the company can again become competitive because I have been happy with its products and would rather see it remain a force in the tech world than fold, as some journalists/tech commentators have suggested it would. Put simply, the world does not need another monopoly, AMD's survival benefits consumers of both Intel and AMD alike.
Anyway, here's the article..... http://hothardware.com/news/amd-claims-zen-processor-cores-will-compete-with-intel-announces-next-gen-graphics-with-hbm-stacked-memory
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Reply #42 Thursday, May 21, 2015 11:38 AM
I'm sorry that you've had a rough few days, I hope you feel better.
Past actions is the only thing we have to give us an opinion on what each of us thinks Zen will be capable of. If you ignore the past, future predictions are based on nothing but guessing and that seems silly. I could guess Zen will have 10,000 cores but that has no basis in reality.
In regards to the change in leadership, ever heard the saying "Come meet the new boss, same as the old boss"? 
We can only wait and see if that's true, but in my experiences working with large organizations even when the man at the top gets replaced it's rare that the new one comes in and goes CHANGE EVERYTHING.
That's my whole point, AMD's past performances are not necessarily anything to go on, not with new management and new engineers working on a whole new die and architecture. Okay, sometimes the new boss is the same as the old boss, but indications are that a major shakeup has gone through AMD, beginning with the top echelon and going right through those with hands-on roles in development. If true, those fools who kept rehashing old architectures and old ideas are gone and AMD, realising its past mistakes, has hired better, more efficient people to get the job done. If/when I can relocate the article I read regarding the new AMD regime I'll repost it here... it is a most interesting read and gives rise to hope and optimism for AMD.
Were they just rehashing the Bulldozer architecture I'd have to agree with you, Zen would be bottlenecked from word go... and you don't win the race by putting new shoes on an old horse. It's why I keep saying let's wait and see, because we have no way of knowing what Zen will actually be capable of. It may not be released until 1Q 2016, some months after Intel's Skylake, but one would think that AMD's thinking right now would be more about putting out the best CPU it can in 2016, not on what Intel has done recently and if they can beat it.
Oh, and thanks for your kind words, I do appreciate them. And yes, I am feeling better than I was, but the issue remains and I need to get it sorted if I am to enjoy a better quality of life. I am seeing some new [to me] medicos, however, so my hopes are higher and my attitude [toward it] is more positive.
Reply #43 Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:48 PM
They're planning to jump from steam to electricity....
how revolting!
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Reply #41 Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:12 AM
I'm sorry that you've had a rough few days, I hope you feel better.
Past actions is the only thing we have to give us an opinion on what each of us thinks Zen will be capable of. If you ignore the past, future predictions are based on nothing but guessing and that seems silly. I could guess Zen will have 10,000 cores but that has no basis in reality.
In regards to the change in leadership, ever heard the saying "Come meet the new boss, same as the old boss"?
We can only wait and see if that's true, but in my experiences working with large organizations even when the man at the top gets replaced it's rare that the new one comes in and goes CHANGE EVERYTHING.